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Fri Jul 5, 2013, 05:31 AM

Zimmerman's head being slammed by Trayon into the sidewalk is greatly exaggerated.

Think about what is involved during such a trauma...


For me, I wonder how and the hell could Trayvon get ahold of his head to be able to slam it 20-30 times into the sidewalk? Then, where is the blood and scalp evidence on the sidewalk or at least DNA on Trayvon's hands?

Zimmerman was essentially bald-shaven headed that day.....no hair to hold onto. Zimmerman never mentioned a two-handed head slam or ear grabbing. I can't believe it was a basketball bounce...so...it appears to never of occurred....

Come to think about it....

It's not that feasible for Trayvon to grab for a gun and slam a head into the sidewalk...

****Additionally, for Zimmerman to visually focus on Trayvon's alleged reaching for his gun while his head was being pounded. Most people don't keep their eyes open due to eye defense reflexes...


The glove does not fit...........

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Reply Zimmerman's head being slammed by Trayon into the sidewalk is greatly exaggerated. (Original post)
FarPoint Jul 2013 OP
Hoyt Jul 2013 #1
avebury Jul 2013 #2
JI7 Jul 2013 #4
FarPoint Jul 2013 #6
uponit7771 Jul 2013 #21
madmom Jul 2013 #26
TorchTheWitch Jul 2013 #31
DLevine Jul 2013 #3
FarPoint Jul 2013 #5
TorchTheWitch Jul 2013 #32
FarPoint Jul 2013 #33
dusty trails Jul 2013 #7
B Calm Jul 2013 #8
October Jul 2013 #9
FarPoint Jul 2013 #10
October Jul 2013 #12
FarPoint Jul 2013 #27
GreenStormCloud Jul 2013 #13
FarPoint Jul 2013 #18
GreenStormCloud Jul 2013 #19
Nine Jul 2013 #30
GreenStormCloud Jul 2013 #34
Crepuscular Jul 2013 #20
LanternWaste Jul 2013 #24
yardwork Jul 2013 #23
Starry Messenger Jul 2013 #11
Deep13 Jul 2013 #14
Deep13 Jul 2013 #15
HockeyMom Jul 2013 #16
Deep13 Jul 2013 #17
bushisanidiot Jul 2013 #22
Deep13 Jul 2013 #25
Auntie Bush Jul 2013 #28
FarPoint Jul 2013 #29

Response to FarPoint (Original post)

Fri Jul 5, 2013, 05:35 AM

1. +1. Martin does not appear mean/callous enough to do that, or

carry a gun.

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Response to FarPoint (Original post)

Fri Jul 5, 2013, 05:38 AM

2. And don't forget, that Martin was also supposed to have

his hands over Zimmerman's mouth and nose to keep him from yelling for help, and grabbing for the gun.

The only possible explanation is that Trayvon was an octopus!

I am so fed up with the main stream media who keep treating Zimmerman like his story is truthful and he is such a law abiding citizen. I personally think that he is narcissistic and a pathological liar.

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Response to avebury (Reply #2)

Fri Jul 5, 2013, 05:43 AM

4. yes, he had his hand over zimmerman's mouth while zimmerman claims those screams for help

were from him(zimmerman).

the guy is a fucking liar.

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Response to JI7 (Reply #4)

Fri Jul 5, 2013, 05:51 AM

6. Which brings me to ask...

Why no DNA on Trayvon's hands from the saliva and/or oral-nasal tissue, be it blood or cells? To muffle

Zimmerman who would be in "fright mode", the grasp would need to be powerful to subdue, causing some micro trauma, leaving a DNA trail.

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Response to avebury (Reply #2)

Fri Jul 5, 2013, 09:50 AM

21. +1

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Response to avebury (Reply #2)

Fri Jul 5, 2013, 11:42 AM

26. I also just read where..

TM still had the bag of Skittles in his hand in the police photo.

I've not been following this story very closely, but if that is true, how can any of Zimmerman's story be true?

Edit.. not in police photo, but the initial exam.

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Response to madmom (Reply #26)

Sat Jul 6, 2013, 09:59 AM

31. the Skittles were in the front pocket of his sweatshirt

I don't know where this idea came from that the Skittles were in his hand. They weren't. The forensic tech testified that she took the Skittles out of that front pocket of his sweatshirt along with the iced tea that was also in that pocket to bag as evidence. There is also a forensic photo that shows the corner of the bag of Skittles poking out of that pocket.

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Response to FarPoint (Original post)

Fri Jul 5, 2013, 05:39 AM

3. Zimmerman has shown himself to be a liar time and time again. nt

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Response to FarPoint (Original post)

Fri Jul 5, 2013, 05:45 AM

5. Another thought....

Perspiration....
Zimmerman, in his excitement of trailing a suspect through the complex, perspiring would likely occur at the brow, forehead. I see this making the head grab a bit slick, challenging to grab effectively for a repeated head pounding as Zimmerman describes. Plus, this is Florida on a somewhat muggy,raining evening.

Did Zimmerman wear a hat? I do not recall that either so his head was exposed.

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Response to FarPoint (Reply #5)

Sat Jul 6, 2013, 10:05 AM

32. and rain

It was also raining at the time.

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Response to TorchTheWitch (Reply #32)

Sat Jul 6, 2013, 10:21 AM

33. See...for me it is reasonable logic...

To visually imagine the scene with all elements in the picture...not just Zimmerman's cliff note briefings....which do not fit.

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Response to FarPoint (Original post)

Fri Jul 5, 2013, 06:08 AM

7. You have to remember

Martin was armed with a can of ice tea and a bag of skittles, causing Zimmerman to fear for his life.
(Yes ~ I'm being sarcastic)

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Response to FarPoint (Original post)

Fri Jul 5, 2013, 06:13 AM

8. An armed man shoots a unarmed man

 

in cold blooded murder! CASE CLOSED

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Response to B Calm (Reply #8)

Fri Jul 5, 2013, 06:39 AM

9. One would think so...

I continue to be appalled at the media circus and support for the murderer of a young kid.

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Response to October (Reply #9)

Fri Jul 5, 2013, 07:02 AM

10. I ask....

Where is the logic? It shocks me that reasonable thinking has not been applied....no one seems to focus on Zimmerman's story and replay the alleged scenario against facts with environmental details in play.

Zimmerman's story makes so sense when this responsible step has been employed.

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Response to FarPoint (Reply #10)

Fri Jul 5, 2013, 07:06 AM

12. I keep hoping the jury will use logic

Perhaps they have been spared the pro-Zimmerman nonsense.

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Response to October (Reply #12)

Sat Jul 6, 2013, 08:44 AM

27. The pro-zimmerman folks are in total denial mode

in my opinion. Maybe they see a part of themselves in zimmerman thus need to defend his statements and actions at all costs. Simple logic does not apply because it becomes a reflection of oneself.

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Response to B Calm (Reply #8)

Fri Jul 5, 2013, 07:47 AM

13. Cold blood? Perhaps you should check a dictionary.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/cold+blooded?s=t


cold-blood·ed
[kohld-bluhd-id] Show IPA

adjective
1.
designating or pertaining to animals, as fishes and reptiles, whose blood temperature ranges from the freezing point upward, in accordance with the temperature of the surrounding medium; poikilothermic.

2.
without emotion or feeling; dispassionate; cruel
: a cold-blooded murder.

3.
sensitive to cold.


Obviously, 1 and 3 don't apply. The recording of Z's first police call shows that he was emotional. And the fight, witness by several people would obviously be emotion laden.

Z is likely guilty of manslaughter.

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Response to GreenStormCloud (Reply #13)

Fri Jul 5, 2013, 09:26 AM

18. Zimmerman accepted the responsibility

of CCW....he alone knew he was secure with a bullet in the chamber of this hidden weapon. Zimmerman approached Trayon.....Zimmerman thus engaged the battle. Second degree murder is appropriate.

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Response to FarPoint (Reply #18)

Fri Jul 5, 2013, 09:30 AM

19. That doesn't address the wording, "cold blood" that I objected to.

murder 2 requires more than what you listed. Your post is a description of manslaughter.

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Response to GreenStormCloud (Reply #19)

Sat Jul 6, 2013, 09:42 AM

30. What's your issue?

In the title you're objecting to "cold blood," but in the body you're objecting to "murder" (or "murder 2" as opposed to manslaughter.

I personally have no objection to the characterization of Zimmerman's actions as cold-blooded murder.

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Response to Nine (Reply #30)

Sat Jul 6, 2013, 07:57 PM

34. Check out a dictionary.

Words mean things.

"Cold blooded" means without emotion. Z's call shows obvious emotion, therefore it was not cold-blooded.

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Response to FarPoint (Reply #18)

Fri Jul 5, 2013, 09:34 AM

20. Approaching someone

is not "engaging the battle". Being sucker punched in the nose would qualify, though.

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Response to Crepuscular (Reply #20)

Fri Jul 5, 2013, 09:59 AM

24. Getting shot most likely qualifies for "engaging in battle" too.

Getting shot most likely qualifies for "engaging in battle" too.

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Response to B Calm (Reply #8)

Fri Jul 5, 2013, 09:54 AM

23. That's where I've been.

Shaking head.

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Response to FarPoint (Original post)

Fri Jul 5, 2013, 07:06 AM

11. Anyone who has seen even a picture of someone beaten in the face knows Zims story is bullshit.

Getting punched can be deadly and leads to severe injuries. Zimmerman showed none of those effects.

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Response to FarPoint (Original post)

Fri Jul 5, 2013, 07:47 AM

14. RE: DNA

on that point, it is pretty much impossible to get a DNA sample off the skin of another person. That other person's sweat and his or her own DNA would overwhelm it.

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Response to FarPoint (Original post)

Fri Jul 5, 2013, 07:49 AM

16. Concussions

Putting aside the issue of bleeding, no concussion? Having seen many hockey games, the players (even pros) wear helmets. Even with these safety helmets, concussions happen getting your head slammed on the ice. ONCE. Multiple times on concrete? Little bleedng, and no concussion???

Fishy to me.

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Response to FarPoint (Original post)

Fri Jul 5, 2013, 07:50 AM

17. So, is the defense going with accidental discharge rather than self defense?

I have not been watching.

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Response to FarPoint (Original post)

Fri Jul 5, 2013, 09:52 AM

22. Yes, and if someone brings a weapon to a fight, wouldn't the unarmed

person try to disarm the armed one? it makes sense that trayvon would go for that idiot's gun
since he had no way to defend himself against that kind of use of force.

zimmermann killed a kid in cold blood who was only trying to defend himself from being murdered
by a stranger who jumped him at night.

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Response to bushisanidiot (Reply #22)

Fri Jul 5, 2013, 10:03 AM

25. right. if the victim grabbed the gun...

...that means the gun was out. um, why?

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Response to FarPoint (Original post)

Sat Jul 6, 2013, 09:10 AM

28. Travon was also simultaneously smothering him yet Zimmy could still do all that screaming.

Travon must be an octopus to have attacked in so many ways at the same time.

ZIMMERBABY IS A LAIR!

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Response to Auntie Bush (Reply #28)

Sat Jul 6, 2013, 09:33 AM

29. I would expect the prosecution

to outline all Zimmerman's " inconsistencies of convince " statements during closing arguments....Since I strongly suspect Zimmerman will not take the stand....the jury will recognize he is a LIAR!

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