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KurtNYC

(14,549 posts)
Thu Feb 16, 2012, 12:45 PM Feb 2012

5th grade teacher made class write to a prisoner charged with child porn

Officials at the Department of Education say they are looking to fire a Queens teacher who had her fifth-grade students send Christmas cards to a prison inmate who was previously been charged with possessing child pornography.

The city's special commissioner of investigation, Richard Condon, says Melissa Dean, 31, had her class in P.S. 143 at Corona, Queens send cards to John Coccarelli, who appears to have had a relationship with her.

The teacher did not ask permission from parents or the school and officials say many of the cards had the children's names and addresses on them.

"She told them they were going to homeless people, going to people in the service, that they were going to people who lived alone," said Condon. "I have no idea what this woman was thinking."


http://www.ny1.com/content/top_stories/156064/queens-teacher-had-class-contact-inmate-who-previously-faced-child-porn-charges

She tricked the kids and is apparently in a "wifey" relationship with the imprisoned creep. Not fired or charged with a crime yet. Ugh.
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5th grade teacher made class write to a prisoner charged with child porn (Original Post) KurtNYC Feb 2012 OP
There always seems to be a few out there with a total lack of moral judgement. gordianot Feb 2012 #1
I had to do something like this as a kid Nolimit Feb 2012 #2
Why is this person still on the job??She should be suspended at the very least. I would not allow my Pisces Feb 2012 #3
The video at the link includes an interview with the school chancellor. Recovered Repug Feb 2012 #10
If you see my link below, she gets a very long and drawn out arbitration process..it could be years. msanthrope Feb 2012 #16
The process should involve suspension. And how long could the process take. We know she made the Pisces Feb 2012 #18
The process could take years..read the link in post #13. nt msanthrope Feb 2012 #21
She's still in a job because of the nature of the contract between NYC and its teachers.... msanthrope Feb 2012 #13
This is completely unacceptable. I do not understand anyone defending this practice. Pisces Feb 2012 #20
There are plenty of DUers who have attacked Stephen Brill for writing such incovenient truths.... msanthrope Feb 2012 #24
What could go wrong? n/t leeroysphitz Feb 2012 #4
Really. What WAS she thinking? nt Honeycombe8 Feb 2012 #22
I think she should be fired. hamsterjill Feb 2012 #5
parole hearing scheme? Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2012 #6
How can this person not be fired? Are we missing something? nt Snake Alchemist Feb 2012 #7
I think this just broke yesterday KurtNYC Feb 2012 #11
Reassigned to what exactly? nt Snake Alchemist Feb 2012 #12
A Rubber Room, probably. I hope she's nowhere near kids. See post #13 above. nt msanthrope Feb 2012 #14
I hope it's LITERALLY a rubber room and not some room she can sit around and listen to her iPod and Snake Alchemist Feb 2012 #15
No--she will just sit around and collect her 75k salary. Seriously...read the link. She will also msanthrope Feb 2012 #17
Depressing. nt Snake Alchemist Feb 2012 #19
That's unbelievably creepy. Initech Feb 2012 #8
I agree, she should be fired. WI_DEM Feb 2012 #9
My kid would be out of there so damn fast their heads would spin NotThisTime Feb 2012 #23
Where are the teachers on this board?? MadFloridian, KBilKansas and many others who said this rubber Pisces Feb 2012 #25

gordianot

(15,238 posts)
1. There always seems to be a few out there with a total lack of moral judgement.
Thu Feb 16, 2012, 01:01 PM
Feb 2012

When they are in a position requiring public trust it becomes painful when they betray that trust. It will take time for an appropriate response it would be fair to assume that some school administrator is not resting well at night.

Nolimit

(142 posts)
2. I had to do something like this as a kid
Thu Feb 16, 2012, 01:04 PM
Feb 2012

When I was in 4th grade I remember writing to our teacher's friend, who was a real nice lady as I remember. I think it was meant as practice writing correspondence. This was a few years before the dawn of email of course. This woman's choice of recipient was extremely poor.

Pisces

(5,599 posts)
3. Why is this person still on the job??She should be suspended at the very least. I would not allow my
Thu Feb 16, 2012, 01:06 PM
Feb 2012

child to go to her class. I would demand a switch or a new teacher.

Recovered Repug

(1,518 posts)
10. The video at the link includes an interview with the school chancellor.
Thu Feb 16, 2012, 01:35 PM
Feb 2012

He stated that the were in the process of terminating the teacher. I guess that i's need to be dotted and t's crossed.

Pisces

(5,599 posts)
18. The process should involve suspension. And how long could the process take. We know she made the
Thu Feb 16, 2012, 02:04 PM
Feb 2012

children write the letters, that she is a penal girlfriend to this prisoner, and that he is a child molester. What more do we need to know???? As a mother I need no more information.

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
13. She's still in a job because of the nature of the contract between NYC and its teachers....
Thu Feb 16, 2012, 01:45 PM
Feb 2012

Here's an article that explains it all...


Annals of Education

The Rubber Room

The battle over New York City’s worst teachers.

by Steven Brill August 31, 2009 .


In a windowless room in a shabby office building at Seventh Avenue and Twenty-eighth Street, in Manhattan, a poster is taped to a wall, whose message could easily be the mission statement for a day-care center: “Children are fragile. Handle with care.” It’s a June morning, and there are fifteen people in the room, four of them fast asleep, their heads lying on a card table. Three are playing a board game. Most of the others stand around chatting. Two are arguing over one of the folding chairs. But there are no children here. The inhabitants are all New York City schoolteachers who have been sent to what is officially called a Temporary Reassignment Center but which everyone calls the Rubber Room.

These fifteen teachers, along with about six hundred others, in six larger Rubber Rooms in the city’s five boroughs, have been accused of misconduct, such as hitting or molesting a student, or, in some cases, of incompetence, in a system that rarely calls anyone incompetent.

The teachers have been in the Rubber Room for an average of about three years, doing the same thing every day—which is pretty much nothing at all. Watched over by two private security guards and two city Department of Education supervisors, they punch a time clock for the same hours that they would have kept at school—typically, eight-fifteen to three-fifteen. Like all teachers, they have the summer off. The city’s contract with their union, the United Federation of Teachers, requires that charges against them be heard by an arbitrator, and until the charges are resolved—the process is often endless—they will continue to draw their salaries and accrue pensions and other benefits.

“You can never appreciate how irrational the system is until you’ve lived with it,” says Joel Klein, the city’s schools chancellor, who was appointed by Mayor Michael Bloomberg seven years ago.

Neither the Mayor nor the chancellor is popular in the Rubber Room. “Before Bloomberg and Klein took over, there was no such thing as incompetence,” Brandi Scheiner, standing just under the Manhattan Rubber Room’s “Handle with Care” poster, said recently. Scheiner, who is fifty-six, talks with a raspy Queens accent. Suspended with pay from her job as an elementary-school teacher, she earns more than a hundred thousand dollars a year, and she is, she said, “entitled to every penny of it.” She has been in the Rubber Room for two years. Like most others I encountered there, Scheiner said that she got into teaching because she “loves children.”


Read more http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2009/08/31/090831fa_fact_brill#ixzz1mZHFaeI5

Pisces

(5,599 posts)
20. This is completely unacceptable. I do not understand anyone defending this practice.
Thu Feb 16, 2012, 02:18 PM
Feb 2012

THese teachers need to be fired after a hearing of some sorts. They should not be paid for 3 years these insane rules
need to be changed.

Last week we had 3 teachers in California molesting children with the lollipop game, tasting game, and some bondage???
These teachers need to be fired, not put in some rubber room with pay.

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
24. There are plenty of DUers who have attacked Stephen Brill for writing such incovenient truths....
Thu Feb 16, 2012, 02:36 PM
Feb 2012

If you google 'democratic underground' 'brill' and 'ravitch' you will note some of the noise.

hamsterjill

(15,220 posts)
5. I think she should be fired.
Thu Feb 16, 2012, 01:08 PM
Feb 2012

If the situation really is as indicated here, if I were the parent of one of those students, I would want her to be fired.

 

Snake Alchemist

(3,318 posts)
15. I hope it's LITERALLY a rubber room and not some room she can sit around and listen to her iPod and
Thu Feb 16, 2012, 01:52 PM
Feb 2012

get paid.

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
17. No--she will just sit around and collect her 75k salary. Seriously...read the link. She will also
Thu Feb 16, 2012, 01:57 PM
Feb 2012

accrue towards her pension, and all raises.....

Pisces

(5,599 posts)
25. Where are the teachers on this board?? MadFloridian, KBilKansas and many others who said this rubber
Thu Feb 16, 2012, 03:13 PM
Feb 2012

room was a misrepresented lie?? This is crazy. Teachers should be protected but not at the cost of the children!!

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