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Although organized anti-African protests and attacks seem to have become less frequent in south Tel Aviv, a group of friends encounters a new type of organized racism during the citys White Night celebrations.By Leah McDonnell and Rebecca de Vries
Racial tension in south Tel Aviv is not a new phenomenon, generally taking the form of xenophobic marches, protests and anti-refugee demonstrations. Although the number of protests and participants seems to have diminished, there is a new, developing trend. As of late, there appears to be an increase of smaller, more individualistic attacks against refugees in the south of the city.
As the research I have been working on focuses on the issues of crime in south Tel Aviv, I believe it is safe to say that these incidents are increasing in frequency. Researching this topic has brought me in contact with many people who have suffered from racist attacks (both verbal and physical), but on the evening of June 27th, I became part of my own research.
A group of friends six of us in total, one happened to be African went out to partake in the White Night festivities taking place throughout the city. The start to the evening was wonderful, with hundreds of people walking around, live music and lots of cheer people all around were laughing and enjoying themselves. After a few hours, we began to walk back through the busy streets and decided to head south on one of Tel Avivs major thoroughfares, Alenby. It was then that our night took a very dark turn.
As we made our way back to south Tel Aviv, two young men wearing matching black security uniforms and yarmulkes approached us. They first asked, Is the kushi with you? (Kushi is a derogative Hebrew term for black person.)
A conversation between my friend and the aggressors went as follows:
He is my boyfriend, leave us alone, my friend said.
In that case we have a few questions for you.
I am not interested in your questions.
Why? Are you an idiot? We are from the security!
MORE...
http://972mag.com/white-night-in-tel-aviv-jewish-girls-dont-go-with-blacks/75198/
JustAnotherGen
(31,879 posts)Night out. :sigh:
atreides1
(16,093 posts)Never expected this...
DesertFlower
(11,649 posts)cali
(114,904 posts)and I still think your devotion to pasting anything negative you can possibly find about Jews- not just Israelis- is weird.
Purveyor
(29,876 posts)'Jewish' issue that you, in your fantasy thinking, seem to think I have in the past and you fail to produce.
Spell it out. The DU database could provide the 'proof' but you won't/can't find it.
Am I critical of the apartheid like state of israel?
You goddamned right and your petty taunts shall not change that one iota but go ahead and keep trying.
Bonobo
(29,257 posts)Purveyor (13,856 posts)
Best Day Of My Life: Making It Into The Jewish S.H.I.T List
Shall I keep looking? If you don't mind, I will just keep adding it up.
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)it lists Jews who are speaking out against Israel's occupation of Palestine so Let's take a looky loo at that article BTW the author Ami Kaufman is also a Jew did you know that? or hope no one else would
Ive been working so hard for this; its been a long time coming.
And Ive been checking this site for years where people much less deserving than me have been accepted into the ranks for merely being liberal Zionists!
Ive lashed out at settlers! But nothing.
Ive criticized every politician from the Labor rightwards! But nothing.
Ive even voiced support for the one-state outcome! But nothing.
I have a feeling it must have been my recent usage of the A word that pushed over the editors and finally got me in.
http://972mag.com/best-day-of-my-life-making-it-into-the-jewish-s-h-i-t-list/75150/
Bonobo
(29,257 posts)Hard to see how it relates to "Israeli Apartheid" but it certainly is often seen among people who feel Jews control the world.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251122369
Purveyor (13,856 posts)
Gambling Baron Adelson Uses Million Dollar War Chest to Convince Jewish Voters to Abandon Dems
Purveyor
(29,876 posts)permited on DU? Really?
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)Last edited Sun Jul 7, 2013, 01:26 AM - Edit history (1)
because he's (Adelson) is Jewish?
Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)Please explain how that article comes from a "Jews control everything" angle.
yurbud
(39,405 posts)"anti-semite" is doing.
Bonobo
(29,257 posts)Purveyor (13,856 posts)
Atlanta Jewish Times Publisher Resigns Over Obama Assassination Column
Once again, it's a bit hard to see how it relates to the issue of "Israeli apartheid".
Seems more like something else, especially when a pattern begins to emerge.
PS. You asked for documentation, so you can ask me to stop anytime.
Violet_Crumble
(35,977 posts)Bonobo
(29,257 posts)If you are against Israeli policy, fine.
But when it starts to bleed into looking under every rock for examples of how Jews either control things or get away with corruption, sexual misbehavior and financial shenanigans because they are Jewish, you are deep in the land of Anti-Semitic thinking.
Violet_Crumble
(35,977 posts)Because I looked at that article and another one you posted a link to and I'm not seeing what the problem is with them.
If anyone went back through yr posting history, they'd see a lot of posts about women and feminism, if they went back through mine they'd find a lot very critical of Israel, but that doesn't make someone a bigot. It's what they *say* in their posts and what sources they use that are the things that matter...
Bonobo
(29,257 posts)But people could conclude from my many posts about women that I am annoyed by Western double standards about misogyny and what constitutes sexism.
And they would be right. They could and do conclude that I have an issue with some of the radical feminist viewpoints as I have seen them expressed.
Critical of Israel is not the same as looking for Jewish conspiracies everywhere and using the quote of a single Israeli to make Jews in Israel look like racists.
Purveyor
(29,876 posts)Bonobo
(29,257 posts)Is saying that someone is exhibiting anti-semitic thinking in some regards the same as saying they are an anti-semite?
I don't think so. Everyone has racism built into them for example. But that doesn't mean I would use the word "racist" -just that they need to become aware themselves of their bias and direction.
The Straight Story
(48,121 posts)And rightly so when you look at how SOME of them want to implement their religion into our laws.
To think some who follow the Jewish faith don't do the same is a tad naive - hell, we have a whole site called right wing watch that posts daily things about whack job Christians. Christians make a movie - we see an agenda in it. They use lobbying power, we call it out.
Why should it be different for any other group to keep up with what the fundies in that group are doing?
Bonobo
(29,257 posts)And Christians don't have a 2,000 year history of being hunted down either.
Also they are not a tiny fraction of the population. And they don't get teased or beaten at school for being Christian -nor do they get prevented from dating someone's daughter because they are Christian.
Nice idea about the fairness thing, Straight Story, but it is strained and stretched.
The Straight Story
(48,121 posts)I don't think criticizing Jews or Israel means we want to bring on the 1930's/40' again.
I don't judge them on their past but on what people are doing today and whether or not it is in the best interest of folks.
When you put your religion and your country (Israel) first it can cause issues here. Fundies side with the whole Israel can do no wrong thing. I don't hate Israel, consider them an ally, but I won't put them on a pedestal out of fear of being labeled anti-semitic.
Criticism of policy and action is not hate, and calling it such only serves to shut down debate.
Bonobo
(29,257 posts)The Straight Story
(48,121 posts)It has shown up over at reddit:
Has a 'Secretive Israeli Company' been hired by Zanu-PF to fill the voters' roll with overseas and dead voters, and count their votes towards Mugabe?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/zimbabwe/10157931/Fears-Zimbabwes-election-is-being-stolen-by-Mugabe-allies-through-purge-of-electoral-roll.html
Bonobo
(29,257 posts)Are that it does not mean that that can be interpreted as being any more reflective of Israels overall than a fringe US right wing company could be interpreted as reflecting Americans.
TheMadMonk
(6,187 posts)...problems and excesses.
When Israeli actions benefit Jews to the detriment of all others, it's not antisemitism to point out the fucking elephant in the room.
Purveyor
(29,876 posts)against the Jewish people one iota.
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)gets a pass because he's Jewish?
Bonobo
(29,257 posts)Purveyor (13,856 posts)
Brooklyn DA Won't Release Names Of Orthodox Jewish Sex Offenders
Purveyor
(29,876 posts)Bonobo
(29,257 posts)What powerful worldwide Jewish group with its own sovereign nation was trying to hide rampant sexual abuse of children?
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)but still you finger point
TheMadMonk
(6,187 posts)I don't know about you personally, but the vitriol (quite rightly) directed against the RC church for the way it sheltered and enabled its offender priests is always loud, and rarely protested as anti-Catholicism, and any such protests are usually met with ridicule.
And DO NOT protest that the RC's are big and ugly enough to look after themselves unless you are willing to throw the same support behind JIM FUCKING JONES himself.
Bonobo
(29,257 posts)Purveyor
As Torture Debate Heats Up, Jewish Groups Stay Mum
So what is the subtext here?
Purveyor
(29,876 posts)Bonobo
(29,257 posts)What is the subtext? That Jews are pro-torture? Is that what you were saying?
Because "only one" major Jewish group had made a public statement on the issue? Were there a lot of other religious groups doing that? And when you were asked the question, you responded with the old "I dunno. Go write your own OP." LOL.
Purveyor
(29,876 posts)"I dunno" but please dig back further that 2007.
I'm sure there is 'something' out their were you can finally declare I'm an 'anti...something'.
Violet_Crumble
(35,977 posts)azurnoir
(45,850 posts)+972 is the calling code for Israel and the West Bank
however I'd love to hear your take on their so called-agenda
FarCenter
(19,429 posts)It's a little weird that they would celebrate white night festivals at the latitude of Tel Aviv, but lots of Israelis emigrated from northern countries.
jessie04
(1,528 posts)+10000
LittleBlue
(10,362 posts)Fucking hell. Do they not know their own history?
Seems like immigrants everywhere are fair game.
JustAnotherGen
(31,879 posts)And this mixed race couple will go back to Costa Rica before we will step foot in Israel. We travel a great deal - and this isn't the first time I've heard or read of this subset of Israelis making trouble for everyone. We won't be going to Austria either. Or Spain until they figure out their mess.
Costa Rica, Belize etc etc. My vacation time is short. I will go where tolerated until Israel can provide assurance that we won't be targeted by a couple of snotty street thugs.
And I don't think this is ALL Israelis . . . But a few can ruin the tourism dollars for the many.
Hell Hath No Fury
(16,327 posts)...biracial, Jewish, and lived in Israel for 8 years. He experienced firsthand the bigotry of a certain segment of the Jewish population there, primarily those of eastern European decent. He was regularly harassed for dating white women, and the women were also harassed. He also has talked about how the African Jews are wanting to increase the Jewish numbers for Israel but treated like shit once there and often segregated into African-only neighborhoods. Interestingly, the folks who seemed most cool with him were Palestinian.
jessie04
(1,528 posts)I read thru it ...Talk about a one trick pony.
NaturalHigh
(12,778 posts)From some of the threads here, can I assume that it's an anti-Israel site?
jessie04
(1,528 posts)Some people might consider it only an anti-Israel site.
Given its one biased pov, others might consider it far worse.
please check it out and make your own opinion.
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)olddots
(10,237 posts)we have a damn long way to go as humans