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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forumssalon.com Israelis prepare for war with Iran
Even ex-Mossad chief who opposes an attack on Iran seems to have given up
By Larry Derfner
Israels whole body politic politicians, media, influential public figures and public at large is now leaning into a war with Iran. Defense Secretary Leon Panettas recently reported opinion that Israel would likely strike between April and June is shared, give or take a month or two, by countless others.
The consequences of such an attack range from a bilateral missile war and intensified international terror attacks, to a regional war involving weapons of mass destruction. Israel may not pull the trigger, of course. But at this point, that seems the only realistic working assumption.
Israeli talking points are coming faster and sharper. Irans nuclear project is marching toward the zone of immunity, says Defense Minister Ehud Barak. It is our duty to rely on ourselves when we are concerned with a threat to our very existence, says Netanyahu. Their apparent aim is to create an aura of inevitability around an imminent Israeli strike. Leading the drive, Netanyahu and his one-time army commando unit leader, Barak, want full support at home and no serious opposition from the U.S. if and when they send the jet bombers on their mission. Naturally, they would prefer that the U.S. do the job inflicting lasting damage on Irans nuclear infrastructure could well be beyond Israels military capability but from here, at least, the American military option looks unlikely, certainly within a time frame Israel accepts.
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For all the famous outspokenness of Israeli politicians, not one is speaking out against an attack, not from the moderate opposition nor the peace camp. Peace Now, a group that has organized huge demonstrations going back 30 years against the Lebanon War and the occupation, has said not a word about the extraordinarily high-risk war of choice that looms in the very near future.
The news media, with the exception of the liberal Haaretz newspaper, is fully on board. The mainstream media reflect and reinforce public opinion, which shows weariness with settlement-building and settlers, but automatic support for any decision taken in the name of security, especially in the face of a nuclear threat from a regime like Irans
http://www.salon.com/2012/02/16/israelis_unite_for_war_with_iran/singleton/
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Panetta & Pentagon admits their "bunker buster" bombs cannot penetrate Iran's underground facilities
Haaretz: The futility of attacking Iran By Reuven Pedatzur
Published 03:42 09.02.12
Senior American defense officials told The Wall Street Journal that even the largest bomb in the hands of the American military, the one known as the "bunker buster", is not able to penetrate and destroy those of the Iranian nuclear installations that are buried deep underground. Panetta admitted that the Americans do not possess the means of penetrating facilities like the underground uranium enrichment plant at Fordow, near Qum. This is where the problem lies. Some of the nuclear facilities in Iran, especially those that are critical for the continuation of its nuclear program activities, are located deep below the surface and protected by reinforced concrete fortifications. This makes the task of destroying them almost completely impossible. In Israel, those involved have ignored the limitations of these bombs that are supposed to annihilate the nuclear sites; but ignoring this will not solve the operational problem that those planning the attack will have to deal with.
If Israeli Air Force planes succeed in reaching the targets and in dropping bombs on them with great accuracy, but they are nevertheless not destroyed, this would pose questions about the justification of a military operation. If those critical sites are not annihilated, the Iranian nuclear program will be postponed only for a relatively short period.
http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/opinion/the-futility-of-attacking-iran-1.411840
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salon.com Israelis prepare for war with Iran (Original Post)
Douglas Carpenter
Feb 2012
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(36,418 posts)1. The idea of collective insanity is as unappealing as collective guilt - yet, that seems an example.
and it's recurring. It's like self-similarity, the way that a branch looks looks like a tree or Mendelbrot formations recur at all levels within the factals of chaotic structures.
I only just hope that this is yet more psyops and provocation in a long, frustrated effort to get Iran to shoot first. They haven't so far, and I don't think either country is really crazy enough to actually push the button.