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AnotherMcIntosh

(11,064 posts)
Tue Jul 9, 2013, 11:09 PM Jul 2013

Out-of-Control Cop Just Had to Shoot After Escalating Unnecessary Conflict

More than an hour after a father called 911 in Sacramento County to calmly ask for assistance for his son who was stressed after meeting for the first time with a psychiatrist, and who had since taken his medication and fallen asleep on a mattress in the living room, a deputy arrived at their home, ignored the parents’ efforts to explain that an officer’s intervention was no longer necessary, barged into their home without permission, and twice yelled “Get up!”

The son, although starled, stood up as directed. Then, while apparently expecting to be handcuffed, faced the wall and put his hands behind his back.

The deputy then ordered the son, whose mental illness included an extreme phobia of germs, to “get on the ground.” The son, who the parents say was psychologically unable to lie down on a dirty floor, started to get down but then stood back up while asking the deputy to arrest him.

For purposes of understanding the events, the deputy’s name is McEntire, the son’s name was Johnathan, the father's name is Ted Rose. http://www.courthousenews.com/2013/07/09/59178.htm

"This was not a sufficient response for McEntire," {a} complaint states. McEntire, without warning or reflection, bear-hug tackled Johnathan into the wall with sufficient force so as to cause Johnathan to bust a hole through the wall. McEntire then hit Johnathan on the head with his metal flashlight, again without warning. Johnathan, with McEntire on top of him, fell onto his mattress on the floor. McEntire, on top of Johnathan, started to pummel him with punches. At that point, Johnathan attempted to defend himself by trying to block McEntire's blows, and he also threw some punches in response to McEntire's blows in a desperate attempt to try to stop the attack.

The father, who was reportedly shocked by the bizarre turn of events, grabbed his son in an attempt to end the physical confrontation.

"Then without warning, Deputy McEntire fired three shots in rapid succession into Johnathan while Ted Rose held his son.
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The Roses say they asked McEntire to administer first aid to their son. He not only refused, but forbade the family from doing it, according to the complaint.
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When an ambulance arrived, Johnathan was still breathing. But sheriff's deputies refused to allow any members of the family to accompany Johnathan to the hospital - detaining Theodore Jr. in the back of a police car and threatening to arrest Johnathan's sister Tiffany, who hadn't even been home at the time of the shooting.

The parents say that the deputy who killed their son lacked training. They said that any reasonably trained officer would have responded without escalating the situation and using unnecessary deadly force.
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Out-of-Control Cop Just Had to Shoot After Escalating Unnecessary Conflict (Original Post) AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2013 OP
Thats cops for you. darkangel218 Jul 2013 #1
A nessary Evil, they are. demosincebirth Jul 2013 #2
Theyre never there when you need them. darkangel218 Jul 2013 #3
so I guess you would not call them in the event of an emergency? Skittles Jul 2013 #5
Hopefully, you'd better hope that's all the do to you. demosincebirth Jul 2013 #6
Yah, no kidding.. darkangel218 Jul 2013 #7
Murder. Ilsa Jul 2013 #4
For a second I thought you were talking about your buddy Zimmerman alcibiades_mystery Jul 2013 #8
Obviously, Zimmerman should be convicted. Why the effort towards thread hijacking? AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2013 #10
To be fair alcibiades_mystery Jul 2013 #12
What a horror story.. terrorized by a cop who murders your son. mountain grammy Jul 2013 #9
And watching their son die slowly without their help. AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2013 #14
And people wonder why I hate the cops n/t NuclearDem Jul 2013 #11
People should wonder why the cops hate us. AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2013 #17
We have devolved The Wizard Jul 2013 #13
"There's something really wrong going on in this country." Enthusiast Jul 2013 #15
DON'T call the fucking cops! Th1onein Jul 2013 #16
I agree, but I take other means to defend myself and family. Duckwraps Jul 2013 #21
We must learn that we have to depend on ourselves again. Th1onein Jul 2013 #22
I think it depends on who you are and where you live. renie408 Jul 2013 #23
Roid rage and terrible training / mindsets. Dash87 Jul 2013 #18
that is exactly what I was wondering. Are many of these guys doing steroids to bulk up & thus gettin KittyWampus Jul 2013 #19
but, but, he wears a uniform . . . obviously he is a Hero (TM) datasuspect Jul 2013 #20
 

darkangel218

(13,985 posts)
3. Theyre never there when you need them.
Tue Jul 9, 2013, 11:42 PM
Jul 2013

But when the sarge is asking for their daily/monthly activity reports, they're not gonna blink twice before issuing a citation or even hauling you to jail.

Corrupted jerks.

Skittles

(153,160 posts)
5. so I guess you would not call them in the event of an emergency?
Tue Jul 9, 2013, 11:50 PM
Jul 2013

you know, because they are "never there"

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
4. Murder.
Tue Jul 9, 2013, 11:43 PM
Jul 2013

I'll never call the police for anything like this. I don't trust them. They are angry and out of control. I hope this bastard goes to prison.

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
8. For a second I thought you were talking about your buddy Zimmerman
Wed Jul 10, 2013, 12:10 AM
Jul 2013

But then I realized he was only a wannabe cop.

Whew. Close one.

The Wizard

(12,545 posts)
13. We have devolved
Wed Jul 10, 2013, 01:52 AM
Jul 2013

into a uniform worshiping police state. There's something really wrong going on in this country. This kind of thing is being reported regularly.
Do most people fee more secure or threatened when they see the police? And police get paid well to break the law with impunity.

Th1onein

(8,514 posts)
16. DON'T call the fucking cops!
Wed Jul 10, 2013, 05:12 AM
Jul 2013

They don't belong in your life. They're like vampires; don't invite them in.

If you have problems, or just worry about security, try to find some people in your neighborhood, your life, your family, who you can depend on, to come to your home to help you in an emergency. I have a group of them, and their numbers are saved in my phone. I NEVER CALL THE COPS! I don't want them on my property.

 

Duckwraps

(206 posts)
21. I agree, but I take other means to defend myself and family.
Wed Jul 10, 2013, 11:51 AM
Jul 2013

There is an old book titled "Call 911 and Die."

Th1onein

(8,514 posts)
22. We must learn that we have to depend on ourselves again.
Wed Jul 10, 2013, 01:56 PM
Jul 2013

This is not the same country that it used to be, and "public servants" don't serve us anymore. I am not a gun toting maniac; I don't even have a gun, but I think that neighbors and family can be very useful in times of crisis; especially if you have plans in place. We're going to have to come together as families and communities in order to survive the coming days, because it's getting to be an "us or them" scenario in this country. The corporatists would like to see all of us their slaves.

Is that a real book, or something you just made up? If it's a real book, I'd like to read it. Who is the author?

renie408

(9,854 posts)
23. I think it depends on who you are and where you live.
Wed Jul 10, 2013, 02:03 PM
Jul 2013

I live in a fairly rural bedroom community for Charlotte, NC. We are just outside the NC stateline. I am a white, middle class female. I can call the cops and be fairly secure that I will receive help.

But if I were black, Hispanic, poor, male, mentally handicapped or lived anywhere other than where I know many of the police, I would not call them if I needed help. And that is pretty frigging sad.

Dash87

(3,220 posts)
18. Roid rage and terrible training / mindsets.
Wed Jul 10, 2013, 11:11 AM
Jul 2013

They'll flip out in an instant and shoot anything (usually innocent people) because they aren't trained effectively.

 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
19. that is exactly what I was wondering. Are many of these guys doing steroids to bulk up & thus gettin
Wed Jul 10, 2013, 11:19 AM
Jul 2013

roid rage. How can you train someone effectively if they are irrational due to steroid use?

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