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A friendly reminder from George Orwell . . . (Original Post) markpkessinger Jul 2013 OP
That's old-school journalism. Now we mostly have propaganda pretending... polichick Jul 2013 #1
I miss that old school journalism. I think one of the best examples of it today of Cleita Jul 2013 #9
I miss it too - and you are so right, it's dangerous these days. polichick Jul 2013 #18
Thanks, I was trying to remember that quote recently but couldn't quite nail it down. nt Electric Monk Jul 2013 #2
And so much public relations lately! Hydra Jul 2013 #3
Bookmarked. Oughta be a bumpersticker. snagglepuss Jul 2013 #4
Should be. avaistheone1 Jul 2013 #7
Or to use another word, PROPAGANDA. woo me with science Jul 2013 #5
Evidence is something that stands on its own. Everything else is opinion. randome Jul 2013 #6
Nice! jimlup Jul 2013 #8
HILARIOUS BULLSHIT ConservativeDemocrat Jul 2013 #10
Now THAT'S standing up to the man! randome Jul 2013 #11
Uh... East Coast Pirate Jul 2013 #12
So what if I'm wrong about it being attributable to Orwell? markpkessinger Jul 2013 #16
Thank You For Sharing cantbeserious Jul 2013 #13
It doesn't look like it was Orwell's quote. East Coast Pirate Jul 2013 #14
Fair enough . . . markpkessinger Jul 2013 #15
It is. East Coast Pirate Jul 2013 #17

polichick

(37,152 posts)
1. That's old-school journalism. Now we mostly have propaganda pretending...
Wed Jul 10, 2013, 04:50 PM
Jul 2013

to be journalism.

Thanks for the reminder!

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
9. I miss that old school journalism. I think one of the best examples of it today of
Wed Jul 10, 2013, 06:28 PM
Jul 2013

the old guard is Bill Moyers and look how he has been treated and marginalized in the last fifteen years. Of course I love Amy Goodman too. But all the real journalists aren't allowed in the mainstream and those who are too honest and journalistic seem to end up dead.

Hydra

(14,459 posts)
3. And so much public relations lately!
Wed Jul 10, 2013, 05:07 PM
Jul 2013

Sad when John Stewart has to do serious Journalism due to the general lack.

woo me with science

(32,139 posts)
5. Or to use another word, PROPAGANDA.
Wed Jul 10, 2013, 05:14 PM
Jul 2013


The propaganda machine is truly impressive in scope and pervasiveness, if not in quality. I wonder how much of our money pays for it.
 

randome

(34,845 posts)
6. Evidence is something that stands on its own. Everything else is opinion.
Wed Jul 10, 2013, 05:23 PM
Jul 2013

[hr]
[font color="blue"][center]Birds are territorial creatures.
The lyrics to the songbird's melodious trill go something like this:
"Stay out of my territory or I'll PECK YOUR GODDAMNED EYES OUT!"
[/center][/font]
[hr]

ConservativeDemocrat

(2,720 posts)
10. HILARIOUS BULLSHIT
Wed Jul 10, 2013, 06:54 PM
Jul 2013

There is absolutely no evidence George Orwell ever said that. He certainly never wrote that.

The real quote is this:

“News is something somebody doesn't want printed; all else is advertising.”

It was originally attributed only to the "Editor of a Major Newspaper", later said to be William Randolph Hearst.

How about this quote instead:

“News is something is something that is actually factually true; not bullshit you just made up or passed on without even bothering to do a a ten minute google to see if it is accurate.”

It's mine. I'm rather proud of it, actually.

Please note, you don't get to claim Orwell as your own just because you want to "stand up to the man". You have to actually say things that are true. In my humble opinion, if Mr. Blair could roll over in his grave, he would be.

- C.D. Proud Member of the Reality Based Community
 

randome

(34,845 posts)
11. Now THAT'S standing up to the man!
Wed Jul 10, 2013, 07:03 PM
Jul 2013


[hr]
[font color="blue"][center]Birds are territorial creatures.
The lyrics to the songbird's melodious trill go something like this:
"Stay out of my territory or I'll PECK YOUR GODDAMNED EYES OUT!"
[/center][/font]
[hr]
 

East Coast Pirate

(775 posts)
12. Uh...
Wed Jul 10, 2013, 07:09 PM
Jul 2013
“News is something is something that is actually factually true; not bullshit you just made up or passed on without even bothering to do a a ten minute google to see if it is accurate.”


It's mine. I'm rather proud of it, actually.


Glaring typos and all?
 

East Coast Pirate

(775 posts)
14. It doesn't look like it was Orwell's quote.
Wed Jul 10, 2013, 07:19 PM
Jul 2013

Quote Investigator: The earliest evidence of this saying located by QI was published in 1937 in a British periodical about automobiles called “The Motor” in a section titled “You’ll Be Interested To Know”. The author used the pen name LACUNA. The saying was attributed to an unnamed editor of a major newspaper:

I think that the most accurate definition of news was the one with which the editor of a big-circulation newspaper used to placate the anxious directors when, on the morning after a big “story,” the furious protests, threatening letters and writs for libel were pouring in. “News,” he used to say, trying to get them to look at the thing philosophically, “news is what somebody does not want you to print. All the rest is advertising.”


The first cite found by QI that credited a specific person with the expression was printed many years later in 1953 when the words were attached to William Randolph Hearst.

More: http://quoteinvestigator.com/2013/01/20/news-suppress/
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