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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsJuror B37. Holy Smokes
Did you see or hear that interview with her on CNN? Seems very clear that she makes no effort to be informed about the world at all, and that she carries around a set of racial assumptions, let us say, and is utterly and totally unconscious about them. She thinks Zimmerman's--get this--"heart was in the right place." She thinks this would have gone down the same way no matter what color anybody was. Including, as she put it, "Spanish." Spanish?
What's more incredible than her proud ignorance is that the prosecution didn't strike her in the first place, as Dahlia Lithwick wrote in Slate. She kept bragging--bragging--that she doesn't pay any attention to the world. That she worries about her life and that's it. That she doesn't trust the media, which no one does, but she doesn't even read a thing, not one thing. That "you never get all the information." That last point should have been the clincher. Lithwick:
Gail Brashers-Krug, a former federal prosecutor and law professor, is currently a criminal defense attorney in Iowa. She also jumped back when B37 said, You never get all the information. That's exactly what a defense attorney loves to hear, says Brashers-Krug. That's reasonable doubt, right there. If I were a prosecutor, that would make me extremely nervous about her. She adds that B37s devotion to animals might raise flags for her as well. The animal thing is weird. She doesn't know how many animals she has, and she mentions her animals far, far more than her two daughters. She strikes me as eccentric and unpredictable. I never, ever want eccentric, unpredictable people on a jury.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/07/16/juror-b37-holy-smokes.html
B37's voir dire at this link:
http://gawker.com/george-zimmerman-juror-b37-hates-media-called-trayvon-787873533
If this isn't a mistrial because of an open-and-shut case of jury misconduct, then what is?
Exhibit A: B37 apparently lied to get on the jury.
Exhibit B: She sounds like an animal hoarder.
I wouldn't want a lying bigot on the jury, BTA, IANAL.
GeorgeGist
(25,322 posts)Lex
(34,108 posts)The result of years of institutionalized, pervasive racism, to the point it is like the air they breathe. They don't think about it. They don't see it.
How will we ever make it go away?
It's like the air they breathe, they don't think about it.
warrior1
(12,325 posts)was what you just pointed out and that hours after the verdict she's got a book deal. Her husbands a lawyer. Is it possible that he knows the defense?
Incitatus
(5,317 posts)It is hard to believe that a woman married to a lawyer doesn't read anything or pay attention to any news.
TorchTheWitch
(11,065 posts)In the interview she claims that Serino saying he believed Zimmerman's story was a big influence in her deciding he was not guilty, however, the judge admonished the jurors during the trial that they were to disregard that statement. She did not disregard it and even used it as a big reason as to why she thought Zimmerman was not guilty.
Further, she could not have mentioned this big reason of hers in using Serino's statement to the other jurors during deliberations as surely at LEAST one other juror would have noted or at least remembered that admonishment from the judge.
marions ghost
(19,841 posts)"What's more incredible than her proud ignorance is that the prosecution didn't strike her in the first place," as Dahlia Lithwick wrote in Slate.
Do you think that in this town (pop 50,000) of heavy Fox watchers that the prosecution had every chance to strike her, especially for only 6 jurors rather than 12?
You never get all the information. That's exactly what a defense attorney loves to hear, says Brashers-Krug. That's reasonable doubt, right there." EXACTLY. And that's how they did it. And that's what often goes down in small towns especially.
I am sure that the prosecution did everything they could to eliminate ALL the B37's but it would be like playing whack-a-mole.
K Gardner
(14,933 posts)up in my mind, of De La Rionda and John Guy trying to whack-a-mole all the ignorance on the potential jurors.
kysrsoze
(6,022 posts)marions ghost
(19,841 posts)his peers only. Not right.
Chiyo-chichi
(3,585 posts)She said she learned about the case from local news and, in the same breath, said it was the Today Show.
Then the "riot" business. Even if the prosecutors were willing to overlook the fact that she thought there were riots, she said the people who were protesting went too far.
Absent those rallies and protests, Zimmerman likely wouldn't have been charged. If I'm the prosecutor, I'm afraid that despite her protests that she doesn't pay much attention to the news, she already believes that Zimmerman shouldn't have been charged.
Punkingal
(9,522 posts)The judge wouldn't let them.
Chiyo-chichi
(3,585 posts)but two strikes were restored when the judge upheld the defense challenges.
And I thought neither of those was B37.
According to this, those jurors were E6 and B76: http://www.clickorlando.com/news/jury-seated-in-george-zimmerman-murder-trial/-/1637132/20648712/-/mg3494/-/index.html
Punkingal
(9,522 posts)And O'Mara (asshole) told the judge they were dismissing white women for no reason and forced them to take the next two wowm. One of them was her.
Little Star
(17,055 posts)was she one of the 2 that the judge would not let the prosecution dismiss?
NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)Her answers are too conveniently fitting to what lawyers are looking for, designed to be selected.
Never talked about the case, never thought about the case, didn't hear anything about the case.
Too perfect, suspicious from the outset.
kelliekat44
(7,759 posts)Baitball Blogger
(46,756 posts)They intentionally avoided articles that would have ferreted out government corruption during the nineties. Because of it at least one corrupt lawyer was able to remain in several high government positions where he has done a wonderful job of turning justice upside down by buying loyalties. It is time to recognize that Orlando is under the influence of a corrupt good ole boy system. They are proud of being a small town in a big city. You would have to be a fool not to understand what that means.
Corruption Inc
(1,568 posts)Neither does half of the American population.