What kind of person walks around unarmed?

[ZombieHorde]

The kind of person that isn't looking for a violent confrontation.

RIP Martin.

[dipsydoodle]

1. Almost the entire population of the UK.

That's largely because we're not daft in the head.

[live love laugh]

3. As much as I admire your non-daft heads, I believe you are not like us because

your government isn't as corrupt . . . yet.

Here's hoping it lasts in the midst of "globalization" efforts.

[maindawg]

24. thats funny

you were joking, right ?

[SidneyR]

25. Please let me move back home

to Kent where my great-grandfather made the mistake of leaving for the US. I'm tired of the daft here!

[HockeyMom]

31. I felt safer in NYC

than I do in Wild West of Florida.

[Hoyt]

2. At least 94% of us. To keep the other 6% happy, we have to put up with this crud.

[etherealtruth]

22. ^^^ THIS ^^^

[tblue]

43. DAMMIT! I don't want that!

Don't want to live in a gun culture!

[upaloopa]

4. I think you have to be preconditioned to want to kill

if you carry a gun.
Personally I don't want to kill anyone. I would defend myself any way I could but I won't carry a gun.
So many of these shooting stories we read leave me to think that having a gun makes it more likely it will be used to kill someone. Also SYG laws make it easier to kill.

[premium]

13. Utter horsecrap,

I carried a sidearm for 30+ years as part of my duties and I never, ever wanted to kill anyone, even in Vietnam, I didn't want to kill anyone, I did only to survive.

However, I do agree with you on the SYG laws.

[upaloopa]

69. Some day a study will prove me right

I am not talking about professional people but rather the George Zimmerman's out there

[premium]

70. If what you say were true,

a study would've already been done and you would be touting it all over this place.

[upaloopa]

71. Just mark my words

Today another shooter gets away after killing a 16 yr old. That fuck would never have engaged the teen if he did not carry a gun.
Here is the MO.
The gunner starts an incident. It escalates to the point the gunner shoots the opponent.
We have the story over and over on this board.
It has to stop.
I am most disturbed that gunners only get involved in the story where the shooter kills someone then defends him. Sick!

[Call Me Wesley]

5. 99 percent here.

Except police. Not much gun shooting here, as I recall.

Swiss citizen here.

[Rex]

6. That right there.

Exactly what you said.

[Bandit]

7. One that isn't afraid of their own shadow.

America...Home of the Brave...what a joke..

[BobbyBoring]

32. Really!

You forgot land of the free! It used to be. What's happening now in Amerika is an insult to all that have given their lives both in the forming of this once great nation and defending it. Makes me sick~

[another_liberal]

39. "What's happening now in Amerika . . ."

What's that?

[Iggo]

40. Yup.

[MotherPetrie]

8. BINGO. K&R.

[Glimmer of Hope]

9. I seek peace.

[BainsBane]

47. with a gun?

[oldhippie]

10. Victims

Victims are usually not looking for a violent confrontation. But they sometimes manage to find one anyway. It doesn't matter what they were looking for when the criminal with evil intent finds them.

Luckily, innocent, unarmed people are only victimized several hundred thousand times a year.

Granted, armed people are also sometimes victims. The criminal usually has the advantage.

[premium]

11. Retired FLEO here,

and even though I'm allowed to carry concealed because of my retired badge and ID, I don't, no need to, I don't feel any threat to my life at all where I live.

[ZombieHorde]

17. Were you a police officer?

If so, do you think the flashing lights and siren of a police car make the police officers inside more stressed out? When I picture myself quickly driving through traffic with intense strobe lights and sirens, I picture myself stressed out by the time I reach my destination. Are the lights and sirens significantly subdued within the car?

What do you think this?

[premium]

23. Yes, retired Federal Law Enforcement Officer,

even though I was an armed U.S. Forest Service Ranger, I still had to know all Federal laws and State/Local laws where I was assigned to, Montana and Nevada.
I frequently backed up local LE and, yes, when you're running Code 3, it's quite stressful knowing that a fellow LEO is in need of help quickly.
Our patrol vehicles, mine was always a 4 wheel drive truck or SUV, were pretty well soundproofed so, as a rule, we didn't hear the siren, also, at times when I was pedal to the metal, I often out ran my siren.

[nadinbrzezinski]

55. I often outran my siren...

Yup...especially when my personnel gave the Red Cross code for "cover now."

[rustydog]

12. Or the kind of person who doesn't believe a gun is the answer

[BainsBane]

14. Someone who isn't paranoid

[Half-Century Man]

15. I like target shooting.

The mental discipline and body control to make long distance shots at paper. I only hunt with a bow nowwa days.

[ZombieHorde]

16. I live in Montana.

I meet lots of people at school that enjoy guns, and I have no intention of putting down that demographic of people.

[Ed Suspicious]

18. Count me as one of those people. I don't want to shoot other people. I'll take my chances.

[AtheistCrusader]

19. Not the only kind of person not looking for a violent confrontation.

I often DO carry a firearm, but I live by the non-aggression principle. I have never threatened or considered threatening anyone with my firearm.

It would be silly to carry if you weren't PREPARED to kill in self-defense or in defense of others, but that isn't the same thing as looking FOR a violent confrontation. I always seek to de-escalate any situation. With or without a firearm on my person.

If circumstances permit, I will die quite happily, an old man in bed, never having taken a human life. That is what I look for. A long, happy, healthy life. No more, no less.

Nothing is more precious than human life to me. I encourage other people who carry to reflect on their priorities. If they don't value human life first and foremost, I respectfully suggest they reconsider either that point, or reconsider their practice of carrying a deadly weapon.

[DCBob]

20. And anyone who does has a greater likely of turning a confrontation into something violent..

that might not have otherwise... case in point.. Trayvon Martin.

[AllINeedIsCoffee]

21. The only kind of person I want to be around. nt

[ThoughtCriminal]

26. Children

[NRaleighLiberal]

27. me...my wife...and 2 daughters. n/t

[Blue_In_AK]

28. Me.

I've never carried a gun in my life. I had to do a little firearms training when I was a correctional officer (which was ridiculous since we didn't have an arsenal), but I wasn't a very good shot and didn't really care.

[HockeyMom]

29. Me

I didn't as a young woman in NYC, and I will be damned if I will as an old woman because I now live in Florida.

[Jackpine Radical]

30. I used to walk around heavily armed & certainly wasn't looking for trouble.

I carried an M-16, 3-400 rounds of ammo, 2 or 3 grenades, and on a few occasions an M-79 grenade launcher, and blessed my lucky stars at the end of every day that came with no violent confrontations.

[BobbyBoring]

35. RADICAL DUDE!

[HockeyMom]

33. You should make this a poll question

and ask what state the person lives in. It would be very interesting.

[another_liberal]

38. The state of sanity.

Might also be the state of reality.

[backscatter712]

34. The kind of people who aren't cowards seeing boogiemen in every shadow.

A coward dies a thousand times before his death...

[ReRe]

36. Someone like MOST Americans

That's right... the "kind of person that isn't looking for a violent confrontation."

[another_liberal]

37. Someone who doesn't want to be murdered by a bullet from his own gun?

Or someone who doesn't want to have to beg for his life when his gun is taken away from him and pointed in his face?

Or someone who doesn't want to accidentally shoot himself?

Or someone who doesn't want to accidentally shoot someone else?

There are lots of kinds of people who walk around unarmed, and lots of reasons why they do so.

[rrneck]

41. Someone whose risk assessment indicates they don't need to be armed. nt

[ZombieHorde]

42. Ha! Good answer. nt

[Hoyt]

45. Most gun folks don't use the "reasonable person" test when making that assessment.

[rrneck]

49. Bullshit. nt

[Hoyt]

56. Nope, no shit. You guys act like there is a boogeyman behind every tree. Not reasonable or

rational.

[rrneck]

57. More bullshit.

You're sure easy to please.

[Hell Hath No Fury]

48. Zimmerman was armed to go to Target.

Like too many Americans, his "risk assessment" indicated total paranoia.

[rrneck]

51. Armchair psycology.

Evidence indicates that Zimmerman is just an average everyday asshole. Indications of paranoia would include broad brush generalizations in the face of the fact that the crime rate has fallen while every state in the union has legalized some sort of concealed carry and applications for it spike every time each state law was passed.

If you don't want people to carry guns because you feel unsafe, produce a self defense solution that works better than a gun that doesn't involve one.

[Hoyt]

58. Answer seems to prohibit "assholes" from toting guns in public. That would take 98.789% of CCWers

off the streets.

Fact is, the gun cultists would have considered Zman a fine law-abiding, responsible gun toter prior to murdering Martin.

Worse, he is now back into the fine law-abiding group after acquittal using the Stand Your Ground laws pushed by you gun cultists. Heck, wouldn't surprise me if he is posting in gungeon right now.

[rrneck]

59. Libelous self aggrandizing bullshit.

Nonsensical at that.

[Hoyt]

60. Just about anyone who tucks a gun in their pants before going out in public, falls in category.

[rrneck]

61. Well, at least you're safe

swaddled in your sanctimony. Do you have anything of substance to offer, or will anonymous scolding mend the worlds ills?

[Hoyt]

62. Do you have anything but defense of of those who choose to carry a gun or two in public.

[rrneck]

64. Do you have anything but

your own sanctimony and self regard for those who live in a world beyond cloistered fundamentalism?

[Rex]

44. In George Zimmerman's paranoid mind

a dead one. Should be a warning on his vehicle maybe a loud pre-recorded message, 'warning! occupant has been known to stalk and shoot people for no apparent reason!'

[Hoyt]

46. No chit. The law allows him to get his gun and permit back. Plus,

He can walk out his door and purchase as many guns as he wants. He can even carve a notch in handles, and autograph a presentation gun for each of the fuccers who helped belittle/demean Trayvon Martin, his family, and friends who helped him walk free.

[Avalux]

50. Zimmy was packing a loaded concealed pistol, on his way to Target.

He wasn't on 'watch' that night, but on his way to Target. Who the fuck needs to take a loaded gun to Target unless they're scared of their own shadow?

[Bragi]

52. People who aren't scared of everyone

People gripped by inordinate fear want guns. The rest of us don't need them.

[tavalon]

53. Ayuh

[sir pball]

54. The kind of person that's looking to be pickpocketed..."armed" doesn't mean "deadly weapon"

If you walk around unarmed with wits and situational awareness, you're a complete idiot who deserves to be clubbed over the head and have the smartphone your nose is buried in stolen.

I don't carry anything more lethal than a pen and keys these days (which are actually pretty damn dangerous), but I'm still constantly aware of what's going on around me. Not paranoid or hypervigilant; I don't think that every shadow holds a stalker or every person looking at me is sizing me up...just paying attention. Same as walking around the woods when I was growing up, every snap crackle or pop was heard, every movement was seen. Funny the native city folk are the worst at it, maybe they're just inured. At any rate, just being armed with my mind has likely gotten me out of trouble a couple of times.

[Lee-Lee]

63. The kind of person who has accepted that their place

In life is to be a victim if anyone wishes to make them one, and has given up on the idea their life is worth the effort to defend if forced to- that is who refuses to take steps to provide for their own safety.

Note that this doesn't just cover armed with a gun, some means of self defense even if less effective is better than none.

I know the knee jerk reaction to what I am saying, but think about it. To choose not to equip yourself to defend yourself you are taking one of two mindsets- either you are convinced it will never happen to you, or you have accepted that if you are attacked you will submit to whatever your attacker wishes to do to you.

Some people just never think about it. Some are so passive and submissive they can't imagine standing up for themselves like that.

I am sometimes amazed that the same people who talk all about empowerment are against the simple act of empowering a person to defend their own life.

I have noted that most of the women who come to me for self defense classes do so only after either they were the victim of a crime or somebody close to them was- because at first they were of the mindset that it would never happen to them, but after they saw that was not true they refused to be the group that were passive victims.

You may not understand people who have chosen to take responsibility for their own safety instead of passively hoping others will be there to help when needed. I get that, I see it every day. But because you don't understand it don't make idiotic assumptions like this one.

[Hoyt]

67. Or, you have decided that in 99% of cases precautions and other means of self defense besides a gun

will work.

So you have: (small likelihood of any situation arising where you might need to defend yourself) X (a very small percentage of cases where you actually need a gun (gun folks apparently can't improvise)) = (such a small likelihood of needing a gun that it is irrational to go through all the crap just so you can have a gun in your pants).

I recommend thinking about alternatives to strapping a gun or two to your body when venturing out. And study people besides so-called self defense experts like Massad Ayoob (who can't pose for a picture without his side-arm showing), the little dweeb who testified for Zman, etc.

If Zimmerman had not crammed his gun into his pants before heading out to Target, none of this would have happened.

Finally, if you are so concerned about being prepared, do you carry a defibrillator? You are much more likely to need that than a gun.

[One_Life_To_Give]

65. I have known some unarmed people looking for violent confrontations.

I quickly learned that their idea of a good time and mine were rather different.

[mstinamotorcity2]

66. people who

feel they don't have to.

[Scurrilous]

68. K & R