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Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
Mon Jul 22, 2013, 09:21 AM Jul 2013

Leaked report shows high civilian death toll from CIA drone strikes

Leaked report shows high civilian death toll from CIA drone strikes


It is murder isn't it?


The United States has consistently claimed only a tiny number of non-combatants have been killed in drone attacks in Pakistan – despite research by the Bureau and others suggesting that over 400 civilians may have died in the nine-year campaign.

The internal document shows Pakistani officials too found that CIA drone strikes were killing a significant number of civilians – and have been aware of those deaths for many years.

Of 746 people listed as killed in the drone strikes outlined in the document, at least 147 of the dead are clearly stated to be civilian victims, 94 of those are said to be children.

The confidential 12-page summary paper, titled Details of Attacks by Nato Forces/Predators in FATA was prepared by government officials in Pakistan’s Federally Administered Tribal Areas (FATA).

Based on confidential reports from a network of government agents in the field, it outlines 75 separate CIA drone strikes between 2006 and late 2009 and provides details of casualties in many of the attacks. Five attacks alleged to be carried out by Nato or other unspecified forces are also listed.

The numbers recorded are much higher than those provided by the US administration, which continues to insist that no more than 50 to 60 ‘non-combatants’ have been killed by the CIA across the entire nine years of Pakistan bombings. New CIA director John Brennan has described claims to the contrary as ‘intentional misrepresentations‘.



http://www.salon.com/2013/07/22/leaked_report_shows_high_civilian_death_toll_from_cia_drone_strikes/


They need to arrest the leaker quick!!!!!







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Leaked report shows high civilian death toll from CIA drone strikes (Original Post) Ichingcarpenter Jul 2013 OP
K&R think Jul 2013 #1
Outrageous. I demand the right to NOT know about this!!!! Smarmie Doofus Jul 2013 #2
War is Peace. Octafish Jul 2013 #3
94 children Ichingcarpenter Jul 2013 #4
Self kick because some asshole Ichingcarpenter Jul 2013 #5
More: ProSense Jul 2013 #6
Our government lies Ichingcarpenter Jul 2013 #7
 

Smarmie Doofus

(14,498 posts)
2. Outrageous. I demand the right to NOT know about this!!!!
Mon Jul 22, 2013, 09:32 AM
Jul 2013

And whoever the leaker is.... I'm sure it must be some "narcissistic&quot i.e. Snowden), "faggoty&quot i.e.Manning), "disgruntled" (i.e. Tom Drake), "psycho" (i.e. Ellsberg).

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
3. War is Peace.
Mon Jul 22, 2013, 10:38 AM
Jul 2013

Ignorance is Strength.
Freedom is Slavery.

Yadadoo dah de dah la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la I can't hear you!

Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
5. Self kick because some asshole
Mon Jul 22, 2013, 03:19 PM
Jul 2013

didn't read my post dated first.

Now this report doesn't even touch Yemen and the new documented murdering of civilians and children we've done there.

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
6. More:
Mon Jul 22, 2013, 03:24 PM
Jul 2013
Leaked Pakistani Report Finds 147 Civilians Killed By Drone Strikes

An internal report conducted by the Pakistani government and obtained by the Bureau of Investigative Journalism puts the number of civilians killed in the country by CIA drone strikes at 147. That number is much higher than the U.S. government's official count of civilian deaths.

Of those civilians killed, 94 are said to be children, according to the report.

The numbers recorded in the report are far higher than the 50 or so "non-combatants" reported by the U.S. government to have died in CIA drone missions in Pakistan. In June, CIA Director John Brennan described claims of larger-scale civilian deaths as "intentional misrepresentations."

The document, which the Bureau says it obtained from three separate sources, outlines 75 separate CIA drone strikes between 2006 and late 2009, and details the casualties in many of the attacks.

http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/leaked-pakistani-report-finds-147-civilians-killed-by


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A report just leaked from the Pakistani government is a bit more specific. Acquired by the Bureau of Investigative Journalism, it offers that country's assessment of the civilian casualty risk.

Drawn from field reports by local officials in Pakistan’s Federally Administered Tribal Areas, the document lists over 70 drone strikes between 2006 and late 2009, alongside a small number of other incidents such as alleged Nato attacks and strikes by unspecified forces.

Of 746 people listed as killed in the drone strikes, at least 147 of the dead are clearly stated by the leaked report to be civilian victims. Some 94 of these are said to be children.

That figure is slightly lower than the comprehensive data compiled by the New America Foundation, which puts the total for that time period in the range of 190 — with scores more listed as "unidentified." Last fall, Columbia University's Human Rights Institute tried to assess the accuracy of reports on civilian and militant casualties, finding that "estimates are incomplete and may significantly undercount the extent of reported civilian deaths." The number released by Pakistan, it's worth noting, also include fewer strikes than reported by the New America Foundation.

- more -

http://www.theatlanticwire.com/politics/2013/07/how-nsa-using-cell-phone-data-drone-civilians-pakistan/67436/

Wonder what accounts for the discrepancy in the numbers?

How the NSA is Using Cell Phone Data to Drone Civilians (In Pakistan)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023312978

From the data, one strike on October 30, 2006 killed 80 children.

The 94 child casualties:

January 13, 2006: 5
October 30, 2006: 80
August 31, 2008: 4
September 8, 2008: 5

The report covers the period from January 13, 2006 to October 24, 2009

Exclusive: Leaked Pakistani report confirms high civilian death toll in CIA drone strikes
http://www.thebureauinvestigates.com/2013/07/22/exclusive-leaked-pakistani-report-confirms-high-civilian-death-toll-in-cia-drone-strikes/

Get the Data: The Pakistan government’s secret document
http://www.thebureauinvestigates.com/2013/07/22/get-the-data-the-pakistan-governments-secret-document/




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