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EXACTLY!!! (Original Post) kpete Jul 2013 OP
Absolutely liberal N proud Jul 2013 #1
If we can't afford to educate our children, to heal our sick or care for our elderly ... Scuba Jul 2013 #2
! brer cat Jul 2013 #3
We can afford to educate our children. Igel Jul 2013 #4
There's no increase in K-12 spending here in Wisconsin. The public schools are being gutted ... Scuba Jul 2013 #5
X2 ctsnowman Jul 2013 #10
Huh? daleanime Jul 2013 #6
I think you know the answer to that one, Scuba... RevStPatrick Jul 2013 #8
Holy crap! Really? Does Congress know? Including the Democrats? Scuba Jul 2013 #9
They say plenty... RevStPatrick Jul 2013 #14
This subthread really should tosh Jul 2013 #17
The plan: Make education so expensive that only the rich can afford it... L0oniX Jul 2013 #7
We (white people) are free of the rabble (black people and Muslims) BlueStreak Jul 2013 #11
During Bush some Republican was really proud that we gave Iraq a really nice jail. Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2013 #12
Scathingly delicious and apropos take on our warped RW societal priorities indepat Jul 2013 #13
Exactly. Kicked and Recommended!....nt Enthusiast Jul 2013 #15
If only politicians and the media asked this. ck4829 Jul 2013 #16
For The 1% - America Is The Land Of Milk And Honey cantbeserious Jul 2013 #18
K and R (nt) bigwillq Jul 2013 #19
It's not just "more money" spent on military and jails... Wednesdays Jul 2013 #20
K&R n/t myrna minx Jul 2013 #21
I stole that from you. So does that make me an editorial matthews Jul 2013 #22
you are kpete Jul 2013 #24
Propaganda has us scared of terrorists and hoodys. nm rhett o rick Jul 2013 #23
Yeah, Dad.. what's up with that? Who do we elect? mountain grammy Jul 2013 #25
Earth Shoes WovenGems Jul 2013 #26
Another kid waiting for a handout. bravenak Jul 2013 #27
 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
2. If we can't afford to educate our children, to heal our sick or care for our elderly ...
Mon Jul 22, 2013, 11:34 AM
Jul 2013

... just what is it the defense budget is defending?

Igel

(35,317 posts)
4. We can afford to educate our children.
Mon Jul 22, 2013, 01:09 PM
Jul 2013

All the increase in K-12 ed spending in the US hasn't done much good.

Some things, like smaller classroom size or early childhood intervention, make a difference, but that difference is often short-term or modest and only is seen for some populations. For others it's pretty meaningless. And there's a limit to what EC programs and smaller class size get you and the law of diminishing returns kicks in fairly quickly.

There are schools and districts where the level of spending is so low as to adversely impact the average student. That's not most of them. However because this is true somewhere it's very easy to scapegoat spending as the excuse everywhere.

Thing is, I don't think all the scapegoats are a luxury we can afford to have. It takes money to catch those goats (or raise our own), there's the quirky public ceremonies, and do you have any idea what a wilderness costs these days?

 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
5. There's no increase in K-12 spending here in Wisconsin. The public schools are being gutted ...
Mon Jul 22, 2013, 01:19 PM
Jul 2013

... and our tax dollars given to corporations posing as schools, all under the umbrella of "we can't afford it".

 

RevStPatrick

(2,208 posts)
8. I think you know the answer to that one, Scuba...
Mon Jul 22, 2013, 01:24 PM
Jul 2013

The defense budget is protecting corporate profits.

 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
9. Holy crap! Really? Does Congress know? Including the Democrats?
Mon Jul 22, 2013, 01:26 PM
Jul 2013

How come they never say anything?

 

L0oniX

(31,493 posts)
7. The plan: Make education so expensive that only the rich can afford it...
Mon Jul 22, 2013, 01:23 PM
Jul 2013

so they can keep the rest of us out of their club.

 

BlueStreak

(8,377 posts)
11. We (white people) are free of the rabble (black people and Muslims)
Mon Jul 22, 2013, 01:55 PM
Jul 2013

Whenever anybody goes on about "American exceptionalism" and "Our cherished freedoms", that is almost certainly what they really mean.

The prisons keep us free from the scary black people and the missiles keep us free from Sharia law.

WovenGems

(776 posts)
26. Earth Shoes
Tue Jul 23, 2013, 11:36 AM
Jul 2013

We have seen an increase in single mothers and an increase in attacks on education. So I expect to see an increase in what would have in the past been known as hippie moms. You know, the moms who had their kid reading at four and who's proudest moment is when the child skunked them at Scrabble.

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