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http://m.elizabethwarren.com/blog/the-whole-system-stinksThe whole system stinks
July 23, 2013 | By Elizabeth Warren
Ive spent years fighting back against credit card companies that put out zero-interest teaser rate cards, planning to jack up the price later and make all their profits in the fine print.
I also fought back against teaser rate mortgages that promised low payments in the first few years, but then shot up to rates that pushed millions of families into foreclosure.
So its shocking to me that the United States Senate would offer its own teaser rate for our student loan system -- a system that is scheduled to make more than $184 billion in profits over the next ten years. That's not the business the United States government should be in.
Speak out right now to make sure the Senate doesn't pass a deal that would let federal student loans go even higher than their current 6.8% rate.
We had a majority in the Senate to keep student interest rates low, but because of Republican filibusters, the interest rate on federally subsidized student loans jumped from 3.4% to 6.8% on July 1st. Instead of restoring that 3.4% rate, a new so-called "compromise" plan on the table raises the interest rate on those loans this year to 3.86% for undergraduate students, and 5.41% for graduate students in 2013.
And then it gets worse. The plan is set up to collect higher interest rates in future years. After just 24 months, the rate jumps above 6.8% for graduate students. Within a few years, rates for all loans will be higher than if Congress does nothing -- and some could climb as high as 10.5%. Even worse, with the federal government already making billions in profits off these programs, the "compromise" plan is set up to actually increase those profits by hundreds of millions of dollars more.
I can't support a proposal that squeezes even more profits out of our kids, while millionaires and billionaires still don't pay their fair share. This is a bad deal.
Senator Jack Reed has offered an amendment that is a true compromise: let rates move with the market, but set a cap on student loan interest rates at their current rates. I am proud to cosponsor that amendment. It's the only way to ensure that students don't end up paying more than they would if Congress does nothing.
The Senate will vote on the compromise bill as early as today. Please speak out now and demand support for Senator Reed's student loan amendment.
In the end, this is a simple math problem.
If Republicans insist that we continue to make the same $184 billion in profit off of the student loan program, that just means that students in future years will have to pay higher rates to make up the difference.
I don't believe in pitting our kids against each other. In fact, I think this whole system stinks.
We should not go along with any plan that demands that our students continue to produce huge profits for our government. Making billions and billions in profits off the backs of students is obscene.
Senator Jack Reed's amendment is the only plan on the table right now that guarantees student loan interest rates won't skyrocket above their current levels. We need to pass this amendment for our kids and grandkids.
Sign up now to support Senator Reed's amendment.
http://m.jackreed2014.com/act/do-no-harm?sc=warren
I appreciate the hard work that my colleagues have done to try to defeat the Republican filibuster so that we can keep student loan rates low.
But our students are drowning under a trillion dollars in student loan debt. We need to start now with one basic principle: cut government profits on student loans. I can't support a deal that actually increases those profits.
bigwillq
(72,790 posts)abelenkpe
(9,933 posts)Students and families don't need 'affordable' loans. They need affordable education. I wish something would be done to make higher education affordable so that students were not required to go into debt in order to get an education.
Wednesdays
(17,399 posts)fasttense
(17,301 posts)to march on Washington DC, surround the White House and the Capitol building with Pitch forks and Torches. Camp out on the Mall and demand that the Congress represent the PEOPLE and not the corporations and wealthy ALONE.
That would scare the S*# t out of them.
HiPointDem
(20,729 posts)the case that middle class people were able to finance their kids' educations, and for poorer people there were lots of student & other job opportunities to work your way through.
Puzzledtraveller
(5,937 posts)polichick
(37,152 posts)When you consider the power of the corporations and the mic these days, we would need hundreds of Elizabeth Warrens in DC to make the tiniest bit of difference.
I've just about given up hope.
bemildred
(90,061 posts)Demeter
(85,373 posts)Surely in this great nation we could find at least 500 like-minded public servant types to fill the House and Senate....and give Elizabeth some support and solidarity!
polichick
(37,152 posts)Our next presidential election will be stolen by the Republicans, who are already busy rigging the voting system.
Fearless
(18,421 posts)They were already scared of her as a freshman senator. This will be fun.
bemildred
(90,061 posts)Le Taz Hot
(22,271 posts)for Elizabeth Warren.
whttevrr
(2,345 posts)On the positive side...
I am so glad she is a senator.
Thank You Massachusetts!
Zorra
(27,670 posts)in the New Jersey Democratic primary to be held in mid-August.
Support Rush in his underdog bid to beat "Wall St Booker" in the NJ Dem primary!
See more at: http://www.northjersey.com/news/216516931_Rush_Holt__I_d_be_a__one-of-a-kind__senator.html#sthash.WFeMPY5B.dpuf
Myrina
(12,296 posts)mountain grammy
(26,644 posts)BornLooser
(106 posts)Dustlawyer
(10,497 posts)that they will not go back down to where they were before this recent hike?
djean111
(14,255 posts)Little Star
(17,055 posts)aggiesal
(8,922 posts)Last edited Wed Jul 24, 2013, 02:02 PM - Edit history (1)
In the early 1980's the government subsidized approximately 80% of a students education,
using Pell Grants and State funds, and the student/family paid approximately 20%.
Now the student/family pays 80+% while the government subsidizes < 20%
This is our tax breaks at work.
When I graduated, I had $750 student loan.
California once paid for all higher education, until Ronnie Reagan came in
and said "Why should I pay for students education, when they'll just
protest everything I believe in?"
Douglas Carpenter
(20,226 posts)bvar22
(39,909 posts)When the Democratic Wing has to frame "Victory" as keeping interest rates on Student Loans from going even HIGHER,
then we are really screwed.
This is also Machiavellian.
Want to make people happy with 6.8%?
...just tell them its going much higher,
then step in a Save Them from 15%.
In the 50s, 60s, and 70s,
when Taxes on the RICHEST Americans were between 70% - 90% (set by a Republican),
ANYBODY could attend the State University
and graduate [font size=3]DEBT FREE[/font]
if he/she was willing to work a Part Time job.
Really frugal students could also afford to own and drive a Beater.
This was The NORM, NOT the exception.
We could have that again,
IF we had a Political Party that represented the Working Class.
Higher Education has been turned into Just Another SCAM
to enrich the 1% by the NeoLiberal "Free Market" Con Men disguised as politicians in BOTH Parties.
FDR's State of the Union Address contained a section named "The Economic Bill of Rights".
In this section, FDR specified "EDUCATION" as a Basic Human Right to be protected by our Government of the People,
[font size=3]and NOT as a Commodity to be SOLD to Americans who can afford it by For Profit Corporations!!!![/font]
There was a time, not so long ago, when voting FOR the Democrat,
was voting FOR the above Basic Human Right (Education).
Sadly, this is no longer true.
...how FAR we have fallen.
[font color=firebrick][center]"There are forces within the Democratic Party who want us to sound like kinder, gentler Republicans.
I want a party that will STAND UP for Working Americans."
---Paul Wellstone [/font][/center] [center] [center] [/font]
[font size=1]photo by bvar22
Shortly before Sen Wellstone was killed[/center][/font]
You will know them by their [font size=3]WORKS.[/font]
Mass
(27,315 posts)but I got the same reaction.
The children of the rich do not have to worry about paying for college. I'm sure that the Clintons and the Bidens and the Kerrys didn't have to worry about how to pay for their kids' college.
So the children of the rich graduate debt-free and without having had to work during college.
Then when the children of the rich graduate, their parents use their social and professional connections to place their children in good jobs.
That is how our country is creating an aristocracy.
nil desperandum
(654 posts)You are bang on with this, working in a small business my entire life I discuss tax plans with my "free trade/fair tax" colleagues....I like when they tell me if everyone just paid 10% it would be "fair". I ask how so? Then I ask if they really believe that, when they say they do I pose a simple question.
When you are a 30% partner in a business when it's time to make a major capital investment with your partner do you both pony up 50%? Well of course they answer no because they only get 30% out.
That's when I explain taxes should work the same way, if you own 80% of the available wealth you are responsible for 80% of the burden to receive that wealth. I like to point out that these very same republicans always make comments about running government like a business but apparently not when it comes to taxes, that's when they like an approach that favors those with means instead of those without....selfish pr1cks....
RC
(25,592 posts)AnotherMcIntosh
(11,064 posts)Mass
(27,315 posts)getting the government to invest more in at least public education.
My son graduated from college with $20,000 in debt (UMass system). He went to France for a grad degree: 500 euros a year, including health insurance.
So, if progressives want to do something, they should stop asking for stop gap measures and start pushing for a decent policy for higher education.
Note: I still have a son in college. While I think the deal announced is ridiculous, it is still better than the status quo. Get the best deal possible for the short term and move on to proposing significant reforms.
ADDED
Happy to see Obama talk about the obvious in his speech today: the soaring costs of higher education. Too bad that my senior senator misses the point. This is about more than interest rates. The whole system stinks.
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)education at all levels.
deutsey
(20,166 posts)but we need so many more like her in Congress.
Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)...for out of state (in-state was $100).
Phillyindy
(406 posts)NorthCarolina
(11,197 posts)PADemD
(4,482 posts)reformist2
(9,841 posts)bigwillq
(72,790 posts)But I think Warren is a good voice for progressives. I hope she decides to run for higher office.
hueymahl
(2,507 posts)The whole student loan system is completely screwed up. What is wrong with it is worthy of its own OP, and maybe I'll find time next week to share my self-perceived wisdom on the matter
The short version is that the rules around student loans and education financing in general have created some of the mothers of all unintended consequences - runaway tuition increases. By letting students take out almost unlimited amounts of loans, and keeping the rates artificially low AND making it near impossible for those students to get out from under that debt through bankruptcy, you have opened up the floodgates of money to higher education. There is little incentive for schools to control tuition since demand is inelastic; meanwhile, the students are getting royally screwed because most of them have poor judgement when it comes to finances and all of them think that they are going to be great successes (as they should).
I'm all for fully funding education at all levels, but the way we have done it stinks to high heaven.
WillyT
(72,631 posts)rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)BornLooser
(106 posts)She has, and brings, the goods. Others pale...
blackspade
(10,056 posts)Not only does the 6.8% rate stink, but the 'compromise' proposed sets up a two tiered system of debt which seems to be designed to keep poor and middle class kids from seeking advanced degrees.
blkmusclmachine
(16,149 posts)woo me with science
(32,139 posts)CdnExtraNational
(105 posts)Can't believe how much divide and conquer I see going on in these discussion groups.... but...
I also see many rallying for Elizabeth Warren .... to put the 99% back in the driver's seat.
Some have said that they wish that the congress and the senate were full of more Elizabeth Warrens, but short of cloning,
wouldn't it make sense to rally around Elizabeth Warren in a big way... making her a leader of a grass roots movement.
A movement to elect a congress and senate of representatives of the 99% in 2014.
Then maybe she'd be a candidate for president in 2016.
Just my idea.
G_j
(40,367 posts)I like that idea!
Smarmie Doofus
(14,498 posts)frazzled
(18,402 posts)Sorry I have to say this, because I agree with Elizabeth Warren and supported the amendment fully. My header is a response to all the many "it's just words, and it doesn't matter if there's no action to back it up" comments, posted in regard to Obama's strong and emphatic speech on the economy yesterday.
Well, there was no result here, so I don't know why we're lauding this "speech" as commendable. The amendment failed. Either speeches are a good thing or they are not. We can't pick and choose.
We shouldn't go with any plans that require students to pay for college, period. Higher education in this country ought to be free.
Octafish
(55,745 posts)...from any walk of life, political party, of any status, color, creed or occupation, from anywhere in the country, and they'll tell you she's absolutely correct.