JFK Doco in November to reveal second shooter

[brettdale]

To be released in November for 50th anniversary.

This time the conspiracy theorists are going for the "Pulp Fiction" theory.

Oswald shot him one, and a secret service agent in the car behind JFK, pulled out his gun and it accidently fired.

Ya would think after 50 years the conspiracy theory people could come up with something better.

[Federosky]

1. Lone-Nutters love to beat the "Secret-Service-Guy-did-it" conspiracy theory

They pretend that this is a popular theory among conspiracy theorists in this case.

Tell me. What percentage of the conspiracy-theory JFK books claim that a secret service agent guy shot JFK?
After naming the most famous conspiracy theory researchers, how many of them can you cite who endorse that theory?

Is the percentage so high as to make it a General Discussion thread?

I understand how difficult it is to accept the fact that most Americans believe a conspiracy was behind the assassination.

[Gravitycollapse]

2. What are the odds that an SS agent accidentally shoots the President after Oswald?

Closer than makes no difference to zero.

[NightWatcher]

3. Silly bastards, we all know who's behind it

Ol Georgie H W and the other "Texans". Nope, it wasn't a Secret Service Agent, it was a CIA agent.

Flame me, I don't care, but wouldn't it explain a lot of the '70's, 80's, 90's thru today, where we are and how we got here?

[Fozzledick]

4. Do the math.

I count five shots fired, three from the rear and two from the front.

Meanwhile, Oswald was downstairs in the cafeteria casually drinking a Coke.

BTW, "conspiracy theory" is a propaganda term created by the CIA to discredit anyone who points out the obvious discrepancies in the official cover story.

[Downwinder]

5. Normally the first thing the police check out are co-conspirators.

Who else was involved? Oklahoma City, Boston, 9/11, the C-store on the corner.

[HardTimes99]

8. Yipes. Having recently finished Bugliosi's 'Reclaiming History," I am compelled to

ask how you count five shots? Upon what evidence do you base your claim?

FWIW, a sub-group of the Warren Commission investigators (don't remember the sub-group number right off-hand) wanted to find evidence of a conspiracy b/c, in the words of one, finding that evidence would have established their political credentials for perpetuity. They had a massive self-interest in finding evidence of a conspiracy but still could find none.

[Fozzledick]

9. The physical evidence shows five distinct impacts.

1. The first shot from the rear missed the motorcade completely and hit a curbstone to the left, splintering it and causing minor shrapnel damage to several bystanders. The FBI tried to hide it by removing the damaged curbstone, but it had already been photographed and the victims were on record as seeking medical attention for their wounds, causing the Warren Commission to invent the "magic bullet theory" to account for it since they had already acknowledged three other shots.

2. The second shot from the rear hit JFK in the back between his shoulder blades causing the entry hole photographed in his shirt six inches below where the text and drawings in the Warren Commission placed it to put it in line with the throat wound.

3. The third shot from the front, simultaneous with the second, hit JFK in the throat, causing the entrance wound described by the Parkland Hospital emergency room doctors and nurses. The Warren Commission claimed that this was an exit wound from the second shot, but that's not what the medical staff who treated him reported.

4. The fourth shot from the rear hit Governor Connally, shattering his wrist. The Zappruder film clearly shows him still holding his hat in that hand 1 1/2 seconds after JFK was hit in the throat, and then reacting to a separate impact. The Warren Commission originally recognized this as a separate shot, but when the undeniable evidence of the first shot was revealed, making four shots total with the three they already reported, they then manufactured the "magic bullet theory" to bring the official count back down to three.

5. The fifth and fatal shot from the front caused the impact in the right temple and violent jerk backward shown in the Zappruder film, and the large exit wound in the back of his skull.

FWIW, Earl Warren wrote in his personal diary, revealed only after his death, that he went along with the commission findings because he feared that if the truth were revealed there would be "a civil war between the people and the military" that the people would lose.

[HardTimes99]

10. You should read Bugliosi's 'Reclaiming History" before you go propounding the 'five impacts'

tripe.

The evidence clearly establishes that there were three shots and three shots only fired by a single gunman from the window of the Texas School Book Depoistory, i.e., from the rear. The weapon recovered from the 'sniper's nest' (the only weapon recovered at the scene) had Lee Harvey Oswald's fingerprints on it. The only ammunition recovered from the scene matched the rifle found in the sniper's nest.

I used to believe naively in the theories put forward variously by Epstein, Oliver Stone, Prouty, Douglass. Then I read Bugliosi's book and it pretty much decisively converted me to the belief that LHO, acting alone, shot and killed JFK.

[Fozzledick]

11. I've read an awful lot of books on this over the past four decades

and I consider Bugliosi part of the cover-up, although he's more noted for his role in concealing the military intelligence/cointelpro operation behind the Manson family.

I would suggest you read Best Evidence by David S. Lifton (http://www.amazon.com/Best-Evidence-Signet-David-Lifton/dp/0451175735) for a more concise and rational analysis of, well, the evidence.

BTW, anyone at all familiar with this should be aware that the sight improperly screwed on to the rifle planted in the school book depository could not possibly be used to aim accurately.

[Archae]

6. Here we go again...

Long on wild speculation and innuendo, and no evidence.

[Politicalboi]

7. No secret service for JFK's car

We even have video of how it was supposed to go, but I guess that's not important.