Just for fun: what if the top 3 2016 Dems say "no"?

[Proud Public Servant]

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Just curious about this, given recent discussions on DU. It seems to me utterly plausible that Biden will skip the race, citing age; and that Warren will demur, citing lack of national political experience. Hillary seems more likely to run every day, but suppose external circumstances force her out -- her health, a family situation, whatever.

What does the field look like? My guess would be:

Sherrod Brown
Cuomo
O'Malley
Patrick
Schweitzer
Warner

Those strike me as the 6 most likely; I could possibly see Casey getting in and spoiling for the Reagan Democrat vote. Maybe a Western wild card -- one of the Udalls, maybe Hickenlooper, maybe Wyden. And perhaps Grayson entering as a Kucinich-style gadfly.

So, 3 questions. First, what do you think the field looks like? Second, where would you throw your support? Third, who do you think would actually take the nomination?

And yes, I realize it's only 2013 and we have a midterm election to get through; this is just for the amusement of my fellow political junkies.

[Smarmie Doofus]

1. NYS State Gov't is an irreversibly polluted swamp. I can't see Cuomo emerging from that ooze.

And frankly the party would be nuts to nominate him.

I don't get any kind of strong sense about anyone else on the list. Which probably means they won't rock the boat and will leave our ancient and holy economic and social order undisturbed.

This will comfort the elites ( and open up the $$$$ pipeline) but that doesn't comfort me.


I wouldn't assume that Warren... the class of the class, if you will.... would demur. Why should she?

[hedgehog]

3. Not to mention - he and his girl friend are living together.

I don't think America is quite ready for that!

[MarianJack]

4. If not Cuomo, than...

...perhaps Gillebrand? What do you think?

I'm asking, not advocating.

Thank you in advance.

PEACE!

[Proud Public Servant]

6. I'd love to see Gillibrand

But she won't jump in if Cuomo's there sucking up all the NY money.

[Smarmie Doofus]

10. Seems to me she's our Robert Menendez. The "other" NJ senator that no one can ever identify.

She keeps a low profile... to put it mildly. I don't have a feeling about her either way.

She's just now making a name for herself w. the sexual harassment in the military issue. Worthy cause... that's for sure. But totally safe in a state like this. Like kissing babies.

Frankly , I'm tired of pols like this. Our national problems are severe, elemental and intractable. I want someone in power who's going to make some noise and shake things up.

If I want business as usual I'll change registration and vote republican.

[Proud Public Servant]

5. Agree with you about Cuomo

but I still think he'd run.

The Warren thing is just a hunch. She's not Obama. Obama could attempt the presidency after only 2/3 of a term in the Senate because he's spent a lot of time honing his campaigning chops on the state level and as an organizer. Warren doesn't have that experience, and indeed doesn't really seem to have a taste for electoral politics (which she entered only reluctantly at age 63). I can see her thinking teh Senate Banking Committee is just fine, thanks.

[truebluegreen]

9. Secretary of the Treasury, or chief Economic Advisor

Warren next time? Although I'd love to be able to vote for her--I think her plain-spoken populism might just fly.

[Smarmie Doofus]

20. I didn't realize she was that old, frankly.

She seems like early 50s, tops.

Not that that's a deal-breaker but it makes it harder.

What Warren lacks is foreign policy creds. She should get herself on FR Committee or something like NSA oversight.

Or she could just take the old McCarthy route and waive a lot of papers around and call people traitors.

That style seems to be undergoing a sort of renaissance lately. Seems to work for Feinstein, et al.

Alas... it won't work for Warren. It's beneath her. And that's another reason why she'd make a good candidate and GREAT president.

[Scuba]

2. I see it shaping up as a race between Republican candidate Scott Walker and ....

... Democratic Candidate Chris Christie.

[tabbycat31]

15. Chris Christie is not a Democrat

FFS he's not even a moderate. He stood by President Obama when a disaster hit his state, which most governors SHOULD do.

He's the most conservative governor NJ has had in a long time. Vetoed marriage equality, cut funding for women's health, declared war on public employees, etc.

If not for a Democratic legislature he would be Scott Walker.

[Scuba]

16. My point exactly. Whatever "Democrat" we get will not be a "Democrat", at least ...

... not one who stands strong for traditional Democratic issues.

[tabbycat31]

23. and the Democrats will not nominate a GOP governor

Christie ran as a Republican and governed as one. Sure there are GOP governors who have since switched (Charlies Crist, Lincoln Chaffee) but Chris Christie will not be one of them.

In Crist and Chaffee's situations, they both switched over to independent (I want to say in 2009-2010 but I'm not 100%) and just recently became Democrats. It was a long time coming and it's too late at this point for Christie for 2016 (and as a New Jerseyan, it will not happen period).

The national Democratic party will not nominate him period. He would not survive a Democratic primary. I see them nominating an O'Malley type.

[Scuba]

25. I'd love to see O'Malley, but we'll get a Christie....

... perhaps not in name, but in governing philosophy.

[TBF]

26. Walker's numbers in Wisconsin may keep him out of the race -

though I will admit lack of a brain didn't keep Perry out.

Everyone is talking about Ted Cruz down here.

[Scuba]

32. Walker's faithful legion of fans will be armed with lots of Koch dollars to extol his brand...

That said, he's dumber than Sarah Palin and will be exposed on the big stage. But then Palin still got 47% of the vote.

[one_voice]

7. Maybe Snowden could...

run. I just read he's a hero.

[truebluegreen]

8. O'Malley would be my choice, at first glance,

or Sherrod Brown. Not Cuomo, not Schweitzer, don't know enough about the others.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

11. much more likely to be gillibrand than cuomo

[hfojvt]

12. I sorta wonder who "Patrick" is

Is Danica even over 35?

I still would like to see Mark Dayton run.

[Proud Public Servant]

13. Sorry, should have specified

Deval Patrick, governor of Massachusetts.

[LWolf]

14. I want a left-of-center non-neoliberal governor,

if there is one out there.

I don't want anyone out of Congress; if there are any non-neoliberal democrats left in Congress, they need to stay there.

Governors? I know some are suddenly working to LOOK like they will serve the left. Are there any non-neoliberal, left-of-center governors out there? If not, who is the furthest left and the most likely to resist governing for corporations?

[KamaAina]

24. That would be Martin O'Malley

of Maryland.

[LWolf]

27. I've been hearing about him.

I need to know a couple of things before I make up my mind.

I'll need to look into his education policies, and I'd like to know if he's going to deny frackers, or just, as is happening now, delay them. Both of those will tell me something about his "credentials."

[nadinbrzezinski]

17. I will be brutally honest

I will skip the national election. As long as we are an Empire, it makes little difference who the voters elect. We could vote Jesus Christ or Buddha to the office, the Empire will do what the Empire will do and you'd see very little, if at all, policy changes.

Yes, at this point I am that cynical

[NCTraveler]

18. I'm not so sure Charlie Crist won't throw his hat in the ring.

He believes that as a moderate republican(d) he can get a huge swelling of support from both parties. He will continue the mantra of "let's work together". His ego is unmatched. He is a smooth talker. He has built up a strong coalition.

[whttevrr]

19. I would vote for Cecile Richards

Or Wendy Davis

[KamaAina]

21. Gray? You mean Grayson?

Works for me.

[Proud Public Servant]

28. Oops! Yes, I did

Too much typing, too little coffee; thanks for catching it!

[KamaAina]

22. If Schweitzer's in, that doesn't leave much room for another Westerner

Sure, Wyden's on the right side of the NSA issue, but his tagline reads (D-Managed Care Industry).

[Lizzie Poppet]

30. I'd support Wyden, but I think he'd accomplish more as a Senator.

I feel the same way about Warren, actually.

[grasswire]

29. Dr. Howard Dean

He's my first choice over all.

Dean and Schweitzer -- a formidable ticket.

[GlashFordan]

33. My dream pick if I could drop him in the office nt

[Proud Public Servant]

31. I like Dean, but

I think he'd get creamed as the standard-bearer for the party; it'd be too tough to defeat the "yesterday's man" narrative the media would spin around him.

Edit: oops, meant that to be a reply to the post above.