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Thu Aug 22, 2013, 12:43 PM

Chelsea Manning or Bradley Manning?

I just saw on twitter Bradley IS Chelsea.

As if the news of the trial results weren't enough now this. It's a bit much to digest.

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Reply Chelsea Manning or Bradley Manning? (Original post)
live love laugh Aug 2013 OP
Name removed Aug 2013 #1
bunnies Aug 2013 #4
Name removed Aug 2013 #15
bunnies Aug 2013 #16
bunnies Aug 2013 #2
myrna minx Aug 2013 #3
MineralMan Aug 2013 #7
hack89 Aug 2013 #9
RobertEarl Aug 2013 #5
Marrah_G Aug 2013 #6
bravenak Aug 2013 #8
Whisp Aug 2013 #10
Emit Aug 2013 #11
Nye Bevan Aug 2013 #12
MrScorpio Aug 2013 #13
Brother Buzz Aug 2013 #14
MuseRider Aug 2013 #17
hrmjustin Aug 2013 #18
msanthrope Aug 2013 #19
live love laugh Aug 2013 #20

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Response to Name removed (Reply #1)

Thu Aug 22, 2013, 12:47 PM

4. NO. It wont.

 

She identifies as a woman. Get it? She wants to be called Chelsea. Get it?

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Response to Name removed (Reply #15)

Thu Aug 22, 2013, 01:08 PM

16. Your wont last long here with bullshit like this.

 

FYI. Your transphobic views are fucking disgusting. You should be ashamed.

edit: bye-bye troll. Better luck next time.

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Response to live love laugh (Original post)

Thu Aug 22, 2013, 12:46 PM

2. Whats to digest?

 

She wants to live as a woman and be referred to as Chelsea. Not that difficult, really.

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Response to live love laugh (Original post)

Thu Aug 22, 2013, 12:46 PM

3. Bradley will start hormone therapy for transition and is now

living as a female named Chelsea. It's her life to live to the fullest. What's to to digest?

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Response to myrna minx (Reply #3)

Thu Aug 22, 2013, 12:51 PM

7. Well, Pvt. Manning may want to start hormone therapy,

but his medical care will be provided by the military prison system. Odds are strong that he will not be provided with the hormones required. The stage is set for a genuine conflict there.

Different groups will refer to Pvt. Manning with different names. The military will use the name on his birth certificate, I'm afraid. His options are limited with regard to the people who hold him in custody.

I'll be happy to refer to Pvt. Manning as Chelsea, according to her request. Others may not recognize that request, and they're likely to be in charge of all medical care.

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Response to myrna minx (Reply #3)

Thu Aug 22, 2013, 12:52 PM

9. She won't start hormone therapy until she gets out of prison.

but it is her right to identify as a women - unfortunately the military is under no legal obligation to recognize her choice.

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Response to live love laugh (Original post)

Thu Aug 22, 2013, 12:47 PM

5. Last freedom Manning has to be exercised?

 

If you truly live love and laugh, this should not be a problem for you. Or anyone else.

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Response to live love laugh (Original post)

Thu Aug 22, 2013, 12:50 PM

6. What's so difficult about it

She wishes to be called Chelsea and wants to live as a female. It doesn't change anything about who she is.

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Response to live love laugh (Original post)

Thu Aug 22, 2013, 12:52 PM

8. Chelsea.

 

I knew when I saw her in the blond wig that it was not an affectation. This is her. It would be rude and unmannerly to call her Bradley.

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Response to live love laugh (Original post)

Thu Aug 22, 2013, 12:53 PM

10. why a bit much to digest? what's to digest?

 

if your tummy is so sensitive maybe you shouldn't be reading on the intertubes.

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Thu Aug 22, 2013, 12:54 PM

12. Referring to her as "Bradley", "him", or "he", is transphobic (nt)

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Response to live love laugh (Original post)

Thu Aug 22, 2013, 12:58 PM

13. If Manning says that's she's a transgender person and her name is now Chelsea, so be it

There are quite few things that still need to come (counseling, therapy, gender reassignment, legal name change, etc), but let's honor her declaration on what her current identity is.

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Response to live love laugh (Original post)

Thu Aug 22, 2013, 01:00 PM

14. It's going to take some time for GoogleŽ to even things up

658,000,000 hits Bradley Manning

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Response to live love laugh (Original post)

Thu Aug 22, 2013, 01:52 PM

17. You do not HAVE to digest it you just have to accept it for the truth

that it is.

Be respectful and let it be. Chelsea Manning knows who she is and you don't get to change that for her.

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Response to live love laugh (Original post)

Thu Aug 22, 2013, 08:10 PM

18. Why is it too much to digest? Chelsea feels that she is a woman.

 

There is nothing wrong with that.

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Response to live love laugh (Original post)

Thu Aug 22, 2013, 08:15 PM

19. Use 'Pvt. Manning' if you cannot bring yourself to treat her as another human

 

being, worthy of dignity.

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Response to live love laugh (Original post)

Fri Aug 23, 2013, 05:04 PM

20. I posted yesterday and had to go away but after reading the responses here I must say


that I started this thread yesterday because, being very busy, I was not "up" on the Chelsea Manning issue. Once I gleaned info from Google I posted that it was a bit much to digest because all I had seen was info about the sentencing and then the name Chelsea kept popping up--in the meantime I'm doing other things but was curious and took a moment to see if they were related.

There was nothing offensive meant by my post, it was simply my thoughts at that time. I do find it difficult to keep up with so much information. Period. And whether the info is LGBT related or not, that difficulty does not change.

And the fact that it is difficult for me to digest all of this and much more besides this has nothing to do with your feelings and the offense taken here.

I think some people are overly ready to take offense even when none is present.

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