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KY Gov Praise of Obamacare Leaves McConnell, Rand Dumbfounded........
Lord love Democratic Governor of Kentucky Steve Beshear. Speaking to a crowd of Kentucky voters at a fundraising breakfast, Beshear took the opportunity to praise the American Care Act (also known as Obamacare) to the overwhelming support of the audience and take subtle jabs at those who were opposing Obamacare, which include Senators Mitch McConnell and Rand Paul who were also attending.
Beshear finished with a stab to the heart of GOPs NoCare, no alternative. Its amazing to me how people who are pouring time and money and energy into trying to repeal the Affordable Care Act sure havent put that kind of energy into trying to improve the health of Kentuckians, according to the National Journal.
Ouch. That had to hurt Mitch McConnell especially, who is in a serious fight to retain his seat against challenger Alison Grimes. The National Journal reports that Beshear got very pointed with his criticism:
Beshear went on to say that "it's no fun" hoping and praying you don't get sick, or choosing whether to pay for food or medicine. He also said Kentucky is at or near the top of the charts on bad-health indicators, including heart disease, diabetes, cancer deaths, and preventable hospitalizations. He said all that affects everything from productivity and school attendance to health costs and the state's image.
"We've ranked that bad for a long, long time," he said. "The Affordable Care Act is our historic opportunity to address this weakness and to change the course of the future of the commonwealth. We're going to make insurance available for the very first time in our history to every single citizen of the commonwealth of Kentucky."
THIS is what I want to see Democrats doing as we near the 2014 mid-terms. Be unapologetic. Put the Democratic agenda in human terms everyone can understand. Push Republicans back on their heels and force them to defend their record.
Take note, Democrats. This is how you do it.
http://crooksandliars.com/nicole-belle/ky-gov-praise-obamacare-leaves-mcconn
CaliforniaPeggy
(149,637 posts)Duval
(4,280 posts)calimary
(81,321 posts)For example, just today (Sunday) on CNN's "State of the Union." Fill-in host Dana Bash had Howard Dean and jim demint on. She gave jim demint all kinds of face time to talk about how "Obamacare" (which we should NEVER use because it's the bad guys' meme. The law is called the Affordable Care Act) was this bad and that bad and nobody likes it - ALL LIES.
Rule #1: DO NOT use the enemy's terms for an issue. Use YOUR OWN. Use OURS. Do NOT reinforce their talking points - EVER!!!!!!
Then of course, she shifted topics and asked Howard Dean some stupid useless irrelevant question out of left field about Joe Biden. WTF??? Joe Biden??? And she deftly did that when they were about 30 seconds away from the end of the segment. Cute, 'eh? Well, Howard Dean immediately went back to on-message. He said (paraphrasing) "well, before we talk about that, in the interest of some equal time here, I want to go back to something your other guest said about the Affordable Care Act..." AND HE GOT THE REBUTTAL IN.
Rule #2: DO NOT let yourself be sidetracked by lame questions that attempt to switch topics BEFORE YOU HAVE HAD A CHANCE TO REBUT what the other guy said that, otherwise, will be allowed to stand un-rebutted and un-challenged.
At the end, she thanked them both, and closed out the segment, with jim demint attempting (while purportedly saying some version of "thank you Dana" to squeeze in just one more little talking point to reinforce "Obamacare BAAAAAAD," again, all of it flat-out lies. Howard Dean jumped in on top of him and with his own "thank you Dana" he reinforced "that's not true" ON TOP OF jim demint. Just talked over him. Talked straight over him. Result? Not only did jim demint NOT get the last word, but the words he tried to squeeze in at the very end could not be clearly heard because Howard Dean talked over them.
Rule ##: DO NOT EVER EVER EVER EVER let the other guy get the last word. Be rude if you have to. Butt in if you have to. Talk over him/her. Sometimes that succeeds in forcing the opponent to pause because you butted in. GOOD!!! Then YOU finish and YOU take the last precious seconds before they go to commercial! That way YOUR message is the last one that's heard and that's allowed to sink in and stand unchallenged. If they don't concede the moment and they attempt to keep talking to get their point in - YOU KEEP ON TALKING AND DON'T GIVE GROUND!!!! At the very least, your talking over the opponent prevents their message from being clearly heard - because you got in the way and they didn't have a clear shot. That is NOT the time to decide to become Emily Post and be all mannerly and nice. Not with this. That assumes the opponent is nice, too, and we need to completely get away from that bullshit notion. They're NOT nice. Not a bit. Bill Clinton was correct in one of his rants to his insiders - they're EVIL. And what they want to do is EVIL. EVIL - to those who need help the most!!! And they should NOT be deferred to or conceded to or agreed with or reinforced IN ANY WAY.
This is not congenial chit-chat. This is WAR. This is open combat. Verbal, mouth-to-mouth combat. WE have the truth, WE have the facts, WE have the talking points that actually make sense, and reflect what's really going on out there in the real world. WE have the reality on OUR side. We should be smacking the bad guys upside the head with it at every possible moment.
It's not even time to say "please continue, governor." NO. NOT in a situation like that.
LongTomH
(8,636 posts)I wish Howard Dean would coach Democratic candidates for the 2014/2016 debates!
tavalon
(27,985 posts)but yeah, it's best to call it the Affordable Care Act.
And Howard Dean is in the A number one class.
The Wizard
(12,545 posts)won't let you get a word in just keep repeating these words: Stop talking.
steve2470
(37,457 posts)Cha
(297,317 posts)yourout
(7,531 posts)Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)The USA on a level playing field with other nations of our standing. My friend saw a Dr, had xrays, saw an orthopedic and was placed in a cast in France for $36. Her coPay for an orthopedic in the US was $35. Now what is wrong with this story, France with their socialized medicine has cost much lower than we do. BTW, she saw both drs in France in a period of two hours after arriving at first office, it took one and one-weeks to get an appointment with the orthopedic in the US.
Iwillnevergiveup
(9,298 posts)the Republican health care plan? "Don't get sick. But if you do, die quickly." Thank YOU, Alan Grayson and Gov. Beshear. You guys are on the right side of history.
K&R
lastlib
(23,248 posts)Blue Owl
(50,425 posts)Fuck 'em both, twice on Sunday.
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)blackspade
(10,056 posts)No fucking for these dipshits.
Shame them in the presence of themselves, ESPECIALLY in front of a large crowd. Hope Mr. O is taking notes.
-p
arcane1
(38,613 posts)Snotcicles
(9,089 posts)mick063
(2,424 posts)This governor knows the future of politics.
FourScore
(9,704 posts)winter is coming
(11,785 posts)CTyankee
(63,912 posts)post! I wanted to hear what he had to say and see the looks on those two idiots faces...
freshwest
(53,661 posts)There is a video at the link with Rand making an asinine speech. I hate that lying little weasel!
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)Response to Segami (Original post)
Chemisse This message was self-deleted by its author.
demwing
(16,916 posts)Did I misunderstand you?
No Vested Interest
(5,167 posts)KY has had a majority registered Democrats, though they tend to vote Republican, unless the registrations have changed recently.
KY is just across the Ohio river from me; many KYians work in Ohio, and vice versa. Am glad to know they will be better cared for health-wise. Many years of tobacco farming and using have taken a toll; tobacco farming is giving way to other types of work, and hopefully, the health of KYians will improve.
Chemisse
(30,813 posts)Link Speed
(650 posts)Overheard at a bar in Glen Ellen, CA, last night.
I mean, damn, who's paying for that?
lastlib
(23,248 posts)A little-known provision of the law is that members and staffers of Congress don't get a better plan than what's offered on the exchanges.
awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)at the same place Trump does?
calimary
(81,321 posts)One of those curly copper ones - used for awhile til the copper darkened.
The Kentucky Pipsqueak and Yertle. What a dismal duo. THIS is what's representing you in the Senate, Kentucky??? Seriously????? And you're okay with this? How 'bout if they stay in power and take away the ACA insurance that will finally be taking full effect by election time? Will THAT make you happy????
The Wizard
(12,545 posts)take the eyes out of that thing before putting it on his head.
Kim Jong Paul is a leading candidate for Asshole of the Year, better known as the Republican presidential candidate.
MannyGoldstein
(34,589 posts)Bernie, or Alan.
Check.
KoKo
(84,711 posts)Segami
(14,923 posts)Bryn
(3,621 posts)She stood for many hours and beat GOP
dballance
(5,756 posts)It, like a lot of progressive legislation (voting rights, civil rights, social security, etc.) is good for every day people. The GOP has NOTHING but hate, greed and empty rhetoric.
Cryptoad
(8,254 posts)has always been defined by what they are against, never what they are for!
quakerboy
(13,920 posts)But I gotta ask what kind of fundraising breakfast combines a Democratic governor and a pair of Republican senators?
DevonRex
(22,541 posts)That was a joy to read. Good job bring it here for us.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)merrily
(45,251 posts)applegrove
(118,689 posts)Pretzel_Warrior
(8,361 posts)SleeplessinSoCal
(9,123 posts)So true that the GOP has no goal other than repeal. Nothing of value for struggling Americans.
bluestate10
(10,942 posts)One reason why outrageous legislation is not coming out of Kentucky is because at least a couple of the top officials in the state are Democrats. I guess Nader's claim there is no difference is bullshit, as sane people knew all along.
blackspade
(10,056 posts)But he knows how to get Democrats to the polls.
SleeplessinSoCal
(9,123 posts)What is he doing that they voted for compared to the GOP candidate?
blkmusclmachine
(16,149 posts)blkmusclmachine
(16,149 posts)merrily
(45,251 posts)Before Watergate hit the fan, Nixon proposed a bill with an employer mandate. Kennedy killed it because he did not want a Republican President to get credit for passing health care.
The Heritage Foundation freaked out over an employer mandate and proposed the individual mandate instead.
Next, it became Billarycare. Then it became Romneycare. Now it is Obamacare.
Not four identical proposals, but all based on Heritage Foundationcare and all having the indvidual mandate.
tavalon
(27,985 posts)Romneycare. And then I remind them that it's actually called the Affordable Care Act.
mimi85
(1,805 posts)at Obamacare. Hell, he even uses it! Then when it works so well, they can't claim it.
merrily
(45,251 posts)merrily
(45,251 posts)having come up with the individual mandate.
myrna minx
(22,772 posts)hue
(4,949 posts)malaise
(269,054 posts)Rec
heaven05
(18,124 posts)my kind of realist. Look at those two clowns, despicable and evil human beings. Period.
BrainMann1
(460 posts)FSogol
(45,488 posts)unionthug777
(740 posts)Grateful for Hope
(39,320 posts)Wow!
tavalon
(27,985 posts)You might have noticed, that despite the letters after their names, most of Congress are sitting happily together snuffling at the same feed trough. With a few exception, they are just fat pigs rummaging through the endless money trough.
Little Star
(17,055 posts)KittyWampus
(55,894 posts)blackspade
(10,056 posts)he is also one of the most bought corporate Democratic governors we have ever had.
He is so in bed with coal companies and other special interests, that many old school Democrats refer to him as the best republican governor we have ever had.
merrily
(45,251 posts)I did not praise Billarycare or Romneycare, so I have no desire to praise Obamacare.