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Billy Love

(117 posts)
Sun Sep 1, 2013, 07:10 PM Sep 2013

What's the point of having Arab League when they won't do shit militarily?

And refuses to do anything about it except whine to the U.S. and the U.N. about Syria and wanting an military action?

Hey Arab League, we'll do it for you for a cool $150 billion.

And then we'll just light a match and call it a strike and call it a day. Do it your damn self!

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What's the point of having Arab League when they won't do shit militarily? (Original Post) Billy Love Sep 2013 OP
They do shit militarily but it's done more asymmetrically through terrorists. KittyWampus Sep 2013 #1
Then let the Arab League get their lazy butt off and do some work. Billy Love Sep 2013 #2
The last thing the Arab league needs to get involved with is military adventurism. JVS Sep 2013 #3
Agreed etherealtruth Sep 2013 #6
Indeed. Yo_Mama Sep 2013 #11
So the only reason for international organisations is the military, to you? muriel_volestrangler Sep 2013 #4
Why do international organizations ONLY have to do things through bombs?! NuclearDem Sep 2013 #5
The Saudis are having us fight this war for them. NightWatcher Sep 2013 #7
Bandar can go fuck himself five ways. Billy Love Sep 2013 #8
Since you are curiuos about Arab League and military intervention mazzarro Sep 2013 #9
Bingo JVS Sep 2013 #12
Because they want a unified UN response does not make them wimps Yo_Mama Sep 2013 #10
The military is not the answer to every problem. nt LWolf Sep 2013 #13
MIRT called MNBrewer Sep 2013 #14
Umm.. Billy Love Sep 2013 #15
 

Billy Love

(117 posts)
2. Then let the Arab League get their lazy butt off and do some work.
Sun Sep 1, 2013, 07:13 PM
Sep 2013

And that means Saudi Arabia would have to start using the billion of dollars of U.S. military aid that we've sent them for years....

Or cut them off entirely and tell them "Good luck, pal".

JVS

(61,935 posts)
3. The last thing the Arab league needs to get involved with is military adventurism.
Sun Sep 1, 2013, 07:15 PM
Sep 2013

I can think of few things worse for Middle eastern peace than that. It's much better for them to go through the UN.

etherealtruth

(22,165 posts)
6. Agreed
Sun Sep 1, 2013, 07:32 PM
Sep 2013

I cannot believe the criticisms I have read here because the Arab League did the appropriate thing and went before the UN

Yo_Mama

(8,303 posts)
11. Indeed.
Sun Sep 1, 2013, 08:08 PM
Sep 2013

If there were ongoing chemical attacks in Syria, the need for speed would be obvious. But as it is, it appears that we have the time to do this right.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,361 posts)
4. So the only reason for international organisations is the military, to you?
Sun Sep 1, 2013, 07:24 PM
Sep 2013

What's the point of UNESCO when it doesn't send in the troops? And that WHO is damn lazy too - when was the last time it attacked a country?

 

Billy Love

(117 posts)
8. Bandar can go fuck himself five ways.
Sun Sep 1, 2013, 07:42 PM
Sep 2013

I don't give a shit about that Bush loving moron.

Arab League needs to do their job, not make us do their job.

mazzarro

(3,450 posts)
9. Since you are curiuos about Arab League and military intervention
Sun Sep 1, 2013, 07:49 PM
Sep 2013

Then the more obvious question is "why has the league not done anything militarily on behalf of the Palestinians?"

JVS

(61,935 posts)
12. Bingo
Sun Sep 1, 2013, 10:37 PM
Sep 2013

The moment the Arab League starts preparing for military actions anywhere, Israel would shit bricks.

Yo_Mama

(8,303 posts)
10. Because they want a unified UN response does not make them wimps
Sun Sep 1, 2013, 08:06 PM
Sep 2013

Perhaps they are just anxious to affirm international law on this matter:
http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/09/01/20280931-arab-states-call-for-international-action-against-syrian-regime?lite

At an Arab League meeting in Cairo on Sunday, foreign ministers passed a resolution pressing the United Nations and the global community to “take the deterrent and necessary measures against the culprits of this crime that the Syrian regime bears responsibility for,” according to Reuters.

The ministers also concluded that those responsible for the lethal chemical weapons attack should face trial just like other “war criminals.”


This is also very good for us and all those who care about international law. President Obama's decision to seek approval from Congress is shunting the pressure back on the UN, and if in the end the evidence is such that we have to act alone or with only a few partners, having this basis for the action along with the refusal of the UN to authorize action places us in a very different and much better situation militarily and diplomatically.

Whoever is responsible for the use of chemical weapons (and yes it probably is the Assad regime) committed an atrocity, and it's best for everyone and for the global future to have a multiplicity of countries repudiating it in the strongest terms.

Having the US just act without exhausting the international forums makes us look like military adventurers. Going through the process both makes the UN have to cope with the issue and then makes us the agent to carry out an international justice of a sort, even if Russia never lets a resolution through the Security Council.

I think there is no doubt that Congress will eventually pass some sort of resolution for action, even if it isn't open-ended. And giving the Obama administration time to talk to these countries and other countries in the UN, and for the entire world to evaluate the evidence, will almost certainly create a much better outcome. After all, if we want to deter other dictators from this sort of action, there should be strong international pressure and a precedent. Building that precedent is important.

Plus, it's just impressive to have the Congress of a democratically-based country debating the issue and evaluating the evidence. Perhaps more than anything else, this lays the foundation for a more successful intervention.
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