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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsAs her husband begged them stop, Texas police repeatedly shot and Tasered a demented 67-year old
wife holding a letter opener.The husband said he called the Dallas Alzheimer's Association hotline after his wife became agitated with him while holding a letter opener. In his federal complaint, he said that the Dallas Alzheimer's Association then contacted Lewisville police without his consent.
When the police arrived, a police sergeant "immediately attempted to remove David from the back yard while holding an orange shotgun in his hand." When the husband saw the shotgun, he tried to explain that he could calm her down and that no force would be needed. As indicated in his complain, he repeatedly pleaded with the sergeant to "put the gun away."
The police ultimately shot her with less-than-lethal rounds several times, including after she managed to get back on her feet while trying to walk away from the officers. They also Tasered her twice.
"After an ambulance took Delores to the hospital, David says, the police "declared 'exigent circumstances' and searched their home against his objections."
"While David continued to shout his disapproval at the officers, he was told that they 'saved his ass today, ...'".
{One of the officers} "then called the Dallas Alzheimer's Association and reported that David could not take care of Delores."
The husband also stated that his wife's wrist was broken in two places and she needed 17 staples inserted for injuries inflicted by the police. In addition, and what the husband says is worse, is that the episode "increased the severity of her Alzheimer's and she now requires around-the-clock nursing staff."
http://www.courthousenews.com/2013/09/26/61509.htm
gopiscrap
(24,082 posts)AnotherMcIntosh
(11,064 posts)What's wrong with the Texas cops?
Is it the heat? Or the water? Or the steroids?
gopiscrap
(24,082 posts)Th1onein
(8,514 posts)Unknown Beatle
(2,684 posts)so strong that it blinds you into seeing that police departments nationally have been militarized. The reality is that the police the nation over are out of control.
Until people start realizing that rogue police are running roughshod on citizens, no matter where you live, the more police take advantage of that fact.
Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)AnotherMcIntosh
(11,064 posts)Unknown Beatle
(2,684 posts)What's wrong with the Texas cops?
Is it the heat? Or the water? Or the steroids?
I pointed out that it's just not a Texas problem but also with police nationwide. And I've seen dozens of posts from different people that since it's a Texas shooting or whatever, they specifically write something about Texas. "Well, what do you expect, it's Texas." "Is it any surprise that it happened in Texas." "Those crazy people from Texas." Not just involving cops but about anything negative that comes out of Texas. You get the point.
If it's happening in Texas, it's happening everywhere in the US.
Please be more specific, what have you seen from me before?
AnotherMcIntosh
(11,064 posts)At no time did I express a "hatred for Texas".
Nothing that I said justifies your false statement "Is your hatred for Texas so strong that ..."
We're done.
kentauros
(29,414 posts)If you don't want to be accused of hating a state, restructure the way you write your sentences so that they cannot be misinterpreted that way.
AnotherMcIntosh
(11,064 posts)kentauros
(29,414 posts)However, I do have to ask, did you miss the following in my post, emboldened for easy discovery:
If you don't want to be accused of hating a state, restructure the way you write your sentences so that they cannot be misinterpreted that way.
What part of what I said did you not understand or comprehend?
indepat
(20,899 posts)either state albeit out-of-control militarized police forces are as ubiquitous as loony obstructionist Republicans.
tblue
(16,350 posts)but this alone would do it. When cops brutalize an Alzheimer's sufferer, especially if there is no recourse, I don't want to go there and I don't want anyone I love to set foot there. I did this month but only passing thru the airport -- where there's a Fox News store!!!!
jsr
(7,712 posts)pitbullgirl1965
(564 posts)What the hell? Old people, dogs, downs syndrome adults, they're thugs and bullies.
Downwinder
(12,869 posts)jsr
(7,712 posts)Iggo
(48,040 posts)But right on the face of it, they are cowards.
They'd rather kill someone than do the dangerous job they signed up for.
I've said it a thousand times, and I'll say it here again: If you are too afraid to scrap with an old lady with a letter opener, then you're too much of a coward to be a cop. Please choose another profession.
pitbullgirl1965
(564 posts)Downwinder
(12,869 posts)They came after the youth,
Now the are after the aged and infirm,
Who will be next?
gtar100
(4,192 posts)This kind of shit doesn't just suddenly happen out of the blue. It seems that this town and towns all across the US need to rethink their idea of what a good police officer really is. And unfortunately the actions of the knuckledraggers at the bottom are just a reflection of those higher up the food chain. Though the police chief may or may not have been there, dollars to donuts he picked these idiots out precisely because they fit the profile of the idiots he needs. Seriously, the consequences have got to go upward because all the actions of these jackasses clearly indicates they have no business being police officers. So who gave them the job! And who gave the chief his position?
Come on all you good cops out there - you know who you are - doesn't this shit piss you off too? You want to be defined by all the lame ass jerks who have no business wearing a badge? The ones who operate out of ego and not good sense and a drive to help the community. What do you have to say about this travesty? If all of you don't speak out against this sort of behavior, then you deepen our distrust of you and you're no better than these dunces. We need *good* police officers, not idiots like these who do this kind of bullshit.
bbgrunt
(5,281 posts)anyone considered a troublemaker of any kind--especially if they are one of the "useless eaters" who are old, sick, or poor.
Gravitycollapse
(8,155 posts)Comrade Grumpy
(13,184 posts)avaistheone1
(14,626 posts)Now that you mention it I can't understand why your idea isn't already being widely discussed.
Law enforcement is way out of control in many parts of this country.
k&r
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)have given wide latitude to local law enforcement. Why? Because our founding fathers after their experience with the Redcoats did not want to militarize a national police force. So federal authorities are restricted as to the policing of states, and our Federal Constitution is merely a floor when it comes to our civil rights---our states may grant us only more, not less.
Our federal judiciary has always made a point to respect the authority of local law enforcement. Why? because local police should be more directly responsible to the electorate that they work for..the state legislatures should bea responsive to their voters... thus the police are enforcing laws that have been enacted by legislators who are directly responsible to the people. This is seen as a closer civil tie to the will of the electorate then policing by an executive agency.
take a look at the screaming that happens when you try to federalize background checks and gun ownership.....
silvershadow
(10,336 posts)of officers doing this type of thing. It has gotten exponentially worse with the militarization that has taken place since I left law enforcement (read: since 9/11, though clearly even before that). I am glad I am no longer in it, as I not only couldn't condone this stuff, I find it abhorrent. Their duty is to protect and serve, and they should take an oath to first do no harm, as doctors do (not that that would solve the problem, but it might help re-focus a few).
AnotherMcIntosh
(11,064 posts)There is no way that the police supervisors can see the oversized LEOs working for them, and see the violent displays of their uncontrolled tempers, and not even suspect steroid usage.
Nanjing to Seoul
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marshall
(6,667 posts)I think of them as confused and disoriented, but I guess that makes them likely toget agitated. But I don't think it is common, which is likely why the association called law enforcement.
Tanuki
(15,095 posts)Ms. Toad
(35,140 posts)And the fact that it is common - and that people with Alzheimer's can do a lot of damage, especially to a spouse who is frail because both are likely to be elderly - is probably why the Alzheimer's association called the police.
There really is no way to reason a violent Alzheimer's patient out of the agitation, and there are medications which are often prescribed to minimize the violence (with a negative impact on the rest of their remaining mental faculties). It is one of the tragedies of Alzheimer's disease.
I don't know the circumstances the police encountered in this particular home, but there are circumstances with Alzheimer's patients in which that level of force (particularly with a police department not specifically trained to deal with Alzheimer's disease) might be necessary to prevent the person with Alzheimer's disease from harming someone else.
enough
(13,409 posts)pure rage. When this happens the person can be extremely difficult to control, and if the person is big and strong, it can be dangerous for people trying to help. We had this problem with my father, a tall strong man who remained physically healthy for years after his diagnosis of Alzheimer's.
AnotherMcIntosh
(11,064 posts)Dash87
(3,220 posts)AnotherMcIntosh
(11,064 posts)randome
(34,845 posts)So I wouldn't take it at face value.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]Stop looking for heroes. BE one.[/center][/font][hr]
DLevine
(1,789 posts)littlewolf
(3,813 posts)B Calm
(28,762 posts)Dash87
(3,220 posts)high can end your career as a police officer.
Iggo
(48,040 posts)They're the best!