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Katashi_itto

(10,175 posts)
Sun Sep 29, 2013, 07:01 AM Sep 2013

GOP: Seditious conspiracy

Seditious conspiracy (18 U.S.C. § 2384) is a crime under United States law. It is stated as follows:

If two or more persons in any State or Territory, or in any place subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, conspire to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, or to oppose by force the authority thereof, or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States, or by force to seize, take, or possess any property of the United States contrary to the authority thereof, they shall each be fined or imprisoned not more than 20 years, or both. ”

For a seditious conspiracy charge to be effected, a crime need only be planned, it need not be actually attempted. According to Andres Torres and Jose E. Velazquez, the accussation of seditious conspiracy is of political nature and was used almost exclusively against Puerto Rican independentistas in the twentieth century.

In law, sedition is overt conduct, such as speech and organization, that is deemed by the legal authority to tend toward insurrection against the established order. Sedition often includes subversion of a constitution and incitement of discontent (or resistance) to lawful authority. Sedition may include any commotion, though not aimed at direct and open violence against the laws. Seditious words in writing are seditious libel. A seditionist is one who engages in or promotes the interests of sedition.

Typically, sedition is considered a subversive act, and the overt acts that may be prosecutable under sedition laws vary from one legal code to another. Where the history of these legal codes has been traced, there is also a record of the change in the definition of the elements constituting sedition at certain points in history. This overview has served to develop a sociological definition of sedition as well, within the study of state persecution.

The difference between sedition and treason consists primarily in the subjective ultimate object of the violation to the public peace. Sedition does not consist of levying war against a government nor of adhering to its enemies, giving enemies aid, and giving enemies comfort. Nor does it consist, in most representative democracies, of peaceful protest against a government, nor of attempting to change the government by democratic means (such as direct democracy or constitutional convention).

Sedition is the stirring up of rebellion against the government in power. Treason is the violation of allegiance to one's sovereign or state, giving aid to enemies, or levying war against one's state. Sedition is encouraging one's fellow citizens to rebel against their state, whereas treason is actually betraying one's country by aiding and abetting another state. Sedition laws somewhat equate to terrorism and public order laws.

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GOP: Seditious conspiracy (Original Post) Katashi_itto Sep 2013 OP
Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 2013 #1
Use Bush's Patriot Act. Declare an Economic Emergency. Charge the Republican Party Katashi_itto Sep 2013 #2
I also think the Republicans should be charged with yuiyoshida Sep 2013 #3
Good point! Katashi_itto Sep 2013 #4
Extortion: yuiyoshida Sep 2013 #5
Thanks..."the message only has to be sent......." russspeakeasy Sep 2013 #6
Thank Mother Jones for the graphic, and Like them ob FB to keep updated. Coyotl Sep 2013 #7

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Katashi_itto

(10,175 posts)
2. Use Bush's Patriot Act. Declare an Economic Emergency. Charge the Republican Party
Sun Sep 29, 2013, 07:19 AM
Sep 2013

with Seditious Conspiracy Strip Republicans of office. Arrest and ship them to Gitmo.

Hold new Elections.

yuiyoshida

(41,831 posts)
3. I also think the Republicans should be charged with
Sun Sep 29, 2013, 07:20 AM
Sep 2013

Extortion. They have their demands, and if these demands are not met, they will shut down the US government.


(with thanks to Coyotl for finding this)

yuiyoshida

(41,831 posts)
5. Extortion:
Sun Sep 29, 2013, 07:24 AM
Sep 2013

Extortion (also called shakedown, outwresting, and exaction) is a criminal offense of obtaining money, property, or services from a person, entity, or institution, through coercion. Refraining from doing harm is sometimes euphemistically called protection. Extortion is commonly practiced by organized crime groups. The actual obtainment of money or property is not required to commit the offense. Making a threat of violence which refers to a requirement of a payment of money or property to halt future violence is sufficient to commit the offense. Exaction refers not only to extortion or the unlawful demanding and obtaining of something through force,[1] but additionally, in its formal definition, means the infliction of something such as pain and suffering or making somebody endure something unpleasant.[2]

snip: Extortion, which is not limited to the taking of property, involves the verbal or written instillation of fear that something will happen to the victim if he or she does not comply with the extortionist's will.

snip...
In the United States, extortion may also be committed as a federal crime across a computer system, phone, by mail or in using any instrument of interstate commerce. Extortion requires that the individual sent the message willingly and knowingly as elements of the crime. The message only has to be sent (but does not have to reach the intended recipient) to commit the crime of extortion.

Coercion: the practice of compelling a person or manipulating them to behave in an involuntary way (whether through action or inaction) by use of threats, intimidation, trickery, or some other form of pressure or force. These are used as leverage, to force the victim to act in the desired way.

more...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extortion

 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
7. Thank Mother Jones for the graphic, and Like them ob FB to keep updated.
Sun Sep 29, 2013, 09:29 AM
Sep 2013

I enjoy having MJ on my FB Newsfeed.

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