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(30,252 posts)
Sun Sep 29, 2013, 06:42 PM Sep 2013

I'm not a big fan of "open carry" within city limits, and here's why

Last edited Sun Sep 29, 2013, 07:16 PM - Edit history (1)

One of these days, maybe you'll take a trip into the back country or the wilderness, seeking to get away from the city for just a little while. You may find yourself an hour's drive away from anything remotely resembling a town. In some parts of America, if you come across a four-way intersection with a traffic light, a dollar store, and a Dairy Queen, that qualifies as a metropolis by local standards.

I've been in a few areas like that, checking to see if I have enough gas in the tank and any bars on my cellphone before launching myself into yet another hunt for a ghost town or a forgotten cemetery. And sometimes along the road, I'll see the carcasses of these huge feral hogs left to rot in the sun. These poor fellers are built like tanks, and they can sometimes be quite aggressive. If they charge at your car in the middle of nowhere, you're in serious trouble.

Out there, open carry isn't such a bad idea.

My home, however, is in a fairly large city where the downtown area is intersected by two interstate highways. We have a decent network of paved roads, ample hospitals and medical clinics, plenty of restaurants and coffee shops, and even a few bookstores that aren't choked with romance novels and religious writings. My city also boasts a large and reasonably competent police force as well as a sheriff's department.

And I look at some of these people who have been engaged in open-carry exercises in order to prove the point that you can openly carry a gun without society going all to pieces, and while I understand where they are coming from, it seems that the stubbornness and gratuity of their demonstrations has quickly become counterproductive. Here we have a guy toting an AR-15 through a JCPenney, and some other guy lugging an AK-47 into his local Staples.

Guys. Come on.


While I'm all in favor of a workable and competent CHL system, I tend to like the idea of people coming together to build and sustain a society that doesn't require all of us to be strapped 24/7. If you are far removed from city limits and testing your own endurance out in the boonies, then by all means, sling that AR-15 around your neck and do what you gotta do. But here in the city, I look forward to the simple pleasures of taking a walk in the park if that's what I'm in the mood for, then retiring to a good Tex-Mex restaurant for some chips and queso followed perhaps by some good enchiladas (how's the mole here, dear server?) and, ideally, a night on the town with good friends with whom I can discuss politics, play a few card games, or just enjoy each other's company.

About a week ago, however, as I was stopped at a gas station before heading home for the night, I found myself watching a heated argument between two guys, and it looked like it was going to come to blows at any second. So I stepped between them and broke it up - with nothing more than a flashlight. Nobody got hurt, no weapons were drawn, and everybody went on their merry way. Could one or both of the antagonists have been packing? Perhaps. But that was a chance little unarmed me was willing to take.

I like the whole "Renaissance man" concept of ordinary Americans broadening their horizons in the sciences and the fine arts. As my wife's great-great-great-great-granduncle Ben Franklin once opined, "There are three Things extremely hard, Steel, a Diamond, and to know one's self."

But if you really want to master your own self, you'll know there's a time when you just need to put down that gun.


(35,392 posts)
1. There are plenty of times when I've heard a Con bashing some legislation
Sun Sep 29, 2013, 06:59 PM
Sep 2013

because "what works in area A doesn't translate to area B ..."

Which, of course, they fail to remember that carrying a rifle in the middle of a secluded, wooded area does not translate to mean that the same rifle should be welcome in a densely populated area ...



(51,666 posts)
2. Doncha know they gotta be ready to gun down the next uppity n----r that comes along and
Sun Sep 29, 2013, 07:00 PM
Sep 2013

gives them backtalk or doesn't dress right?



(51,666 posts)
10. That's why they were so elated when Zimmy killed Trayvon Martin. It validated
Sun Sep 29, 2013, 07:56 PM
Sep 2013

their worldview: fine upstanding white heros keeping the world safe from dangerous brown people.

Michael Moore really hit the nail on the head with Bowling for Columbine.



(19,877 posts)
3. Neither did towns in the "Wild West", which is why they banned them in city limits.
Sun Sep 29, 2013, 07:02 PM
Sep 2013

Yup, the Wild West of the 1800s had stricter gun control than we do today. You had to check your guns at the city limits with the sheriff or armory.



(16,974 posts)
4. Leave it up to the cities
Sun Sep 29, 2013, 07:03 PM
Sep 2013

to place an ordnance against open carry. Like you say different areas should have different rules.



(54,770 posts)
6. Concealed carry should be part of the ordinance, and any yahoo violating it
Sun Sep 29, 2013, 07:14 PM
Sep 2013

should get a stiff sentence, and lose the right to possess a gun anywhere.



(18,318 posts)
7. States have the power to regulate the bearing of arms...
Sun Sep 29, 2013, 07:35 PM
Sep 2013

either to allow Open, or Concealed, or both. They cannot disallow both means, however.


(30,252 posts)
8. This is true
Sun Sep 29, 2013, 07:38 PM
Sep 2013

Like I mentioned earlier, I am not opposed to CHLs. I don't have one, myself, but everyone's mileage will vary.



(4,229 posts)
9. I think there's an in your face aspect to it.
Sun Sep 29, 2013, 07:44 PM
Sep 2013

When I see somebody carrying a gun unless it's out in the woods or something they just seem silly to me.

I live out in the country and my neighbor wears a pistol sometimes walking up and down the road, but he was viciously attacked by a neighbors dog one time and actually had to have reconstructive surgery of his one hand so I can understand why he's carry it.

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