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TheMastersNemesis

(10,602 posts)
Sun Sep 29, 2013, 09:58 PM Sep 2013

It Seems A Lot Of Young Women Are Falling Into GOP Meme - Find A Man To Support You

Bit by bit younger women are being propagandized to find a man to support them. It is being pushed by business, the GOP, conservatives and the churches in a very big way. The media seems to be pushing the meme as well. The message I see for women is that careers are a no no. You should have a man to run your life and look after you. You are incomplete and a disgrace unless you are having kids by the boatload for the fatherland.

The problem for the young and their future children is that unless we return to a economic space where there are long term jobs with a future that pay a living wage and there is a opportunity to retire they are royally screwed. Right now we are going in the wrong direction at an accelerating pace

Many workers need an increasing income during the years after 40 when their financial needs are growing and not retreating. The cost of raising a child today is around $250,000. So if you have four children you will need to make over a million in a lifetime to pay for their rearing, your own living and your retirement. With such high youth unemployment many youth have not prospects for long time.

With young women being pushed out of the job market or into low paying jobs, the prospects for their children if these women have to be single is quite poor.

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Warpy

(111,261 posts)
1. Pregnancy leave is not paid leave
Sun Sep 29, 2013, 10:00 PM
Sep 2013

and that's the main reason young women who want families need a man with a job, preferably a job that will pay to keep them housed and fed while she can't work.

You can't have it both ways, guys. Either you pay up front with paid leave so women don't have to look at you to be meal tickets or you pay on the flip side when she can't work.

Tumbulu

(6,278 posts)
14. As is usually the case Warpy, you hit the nail on the head
Sun Sep 29, 2013, 10:55 PM
Sep 2013

The deal is having. A child is a very big deal and this ridiculous idea that one has to give birth and be back to work in 6 weeks and breast feed and on and on is unsustainable.

We need civilized maternity/ paternity leaves as the rest of the world offers it's families.

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
15. 6 weeks? nbc news online is running a
Sun Sep 29, 2013, 11:00 PM
Sep 2013

report about women going back to work in less than two weeks because they need the income or they have to run a business and there is no down time available. Its pretty horrible.

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
16. I have seen one week returns to FT work-needed $$- not sure how rhey did it but they did............
Sun Sep 29, 2013, 11:08 PM
Sep 2013

too bad they had to with no other option -sad for m&c in a way

etherealtruth

(22,165 posts)
3. Mercifully I don't know the young women you do
Sun Sep 29, 2013, 10:02 PM
Sep 2013

My almost 20 year old just began her third year at Michigan State ... since she is a "science" major and her boyfriend is a social science major ... she gets it ... if they are together, she will have to be the one to make the money.

She and her friends are all science and engineering majors ... I have never heard them speak of or seen evidence that they are basing their economic futures on men in their lives ... not even close

pnwmom

(108,978 posts)
4. I don't see this shift you're talking about. From what I hear, young women
Sun Sep 29, 2013, 10:03 PM
Sep 2013

these days are very career oriented.

DURHAM D

(32,609 posts)
5. Do you do actual research in the field
Sun Sep 29, 2013, 10:06 PM
Sep 2013

or do you otherwise feel qualified to speak for all young women?


ETA: Your post is crap.

Gravitycollapse

(8,155 posts)
6. The level of wrongness in this OP is indisputable. Women are marrying later, having fewer kids...
Sun Sep 29, 2013, 10:12 PM
Sep 2013

And are much more likely now to pursue higher education and a career.

Arkansas Granny

(31,516 posts)
7. I don't see many young women I know looking for a man to take care of them.
Sun Sep 29, 2013, 10:20 PM
Sep 2013

I advise every young person I know (male or female) to some kind of training or skill by which they could support themselves and a child, if need be. There is nothing so liberating as knowing that you can take care of yourself. I think this is especially important for women because they are more likely to be raising children as single parents and, usually, with less income than their male counterparts.

 

TheMastersNemesis

(10,602 posts)
8. I Just See An Effort To Limit The Choices Women Have In Their Lives
Sun Sep 29, 2013, 10:23 PM
Sep 2013

And I just see a lot of younger women with 2 o3 kids and husband in tow. And there are a number of women in my neighborhood who are marginally employed and do not work at all. Unequal pay, lack of opportunity and discrimination against women are much more common in the work place and such conditions are very rarely mentioned.

Then you see all the laws being passed that limit women's choice on the reproductive side. And the momentum to pass even worse laws has not subsided. Wait until the next legislative sessions and you will see even more atrocious laws. Women who cannot are are not allowed to manage their own health care are put at a tremendous disadvantaged.

And I wonder how many college aged women are engaged and understand what is being done to them. I thought that women would be farther along with their rights. Yet I see things as having moved backward.

What is most bothersome is that the churches are very aggressive against women having rights. Most churches tell young girls that their fathers and future husbands WILL be the boss and you will listen.

I just do not see the backlash that there should be. I do not see the open clamor like the suffragettes and feminists created. And I do not think elections are enough because the most aggressive assholes are in completely safd districts now.

Jamaal510

(10,893 posts)
11. This meme
Sun Sep 29, 2013, 10:31 PM
Sep 2013

that a woman is to search for a man to take care of her is, in a way, also unfair to men. It is unfair that a man has to take care of another adult in a relationship, as if she were a child. Don't get me wrong--I'm by no means saying that the man should slack off and not provide or treat his wife sometimes, but the average woman is perfectly cable of working and providing for the family, as well.
That's my $0.02, anyway.

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