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ProgressiveEconomist

(5,818 posts)
Mon Sep 30, 2013, 06:52 AM Sep 2013

Orwellian inversion of the century: Republicans' use of the word "compromise"

The dictionary defines "compromise" as

"a way of reaching agreement in which each person or group gives up something that was wanted in order to end an argument or dispute."
( http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/compromise )

It's quite clear what the Republicans want Democrats to give up. But what are Republicans offering to give up?

Shutting down the government? Sending the world into a deep recession by destroying the full faith and credit of US Treasury obligations?

How many times did you hear Republicans use the word "compromise" yesterday?

How many times have you heard Democrats make the point I'm trying to make in this post?

WHAT'S YOUR OPINION?

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djean111

(14,255 posts)
1. Yes!!!!!! We say Obama compromises, but when all we seem to get is some
Mon Sep 30, 2013, 07:00 AM
Sep 2013

Sophie's choice dictated by the GOP, and don't seem to start with a list of more progressive demands, then the 'compromise" is really just incremental capitulation.
Unless, of course, being progressive is now totally passe and the Dems really are more in line with what the GOP wants.

ProgressiveEconomist

(5,818 posts)
2. Do important Republican party goals include shutting down the govt and defaulting on Treasury debt?
Mon Sep 30, 2013, 07:29 AM
Sep 2013

The Rs are complaining loudly, "Obama won't compromise" For esample, see today's Nashville Tennessean at http://www.tennessean.com/viewart/20130928/NEWS08/309280040/Obama-draws-no-compromise-line

I can't for the life of me understand why Democrats are letting them get away with a very clear reversal of objective fact. IMO saying "Obama won't compromise on government shutdown or default" is like saying "up is down". Clearly, it's been the Rs who would not compromise since 2008, not the President. They even bragged about how "compromise"" was a dirty word.

What are Republicans giving up to avoid a shutdown or default?

Are government shutdown, default, and deep world recession Republican party goals? According to the dictionary, that is the only way the deal Boehner just sent over to the Senate could be considered a "compromise".

ProgressiveEconomist

(5,818 posts)
8. TRANSCRIPT: President Obama made the argument in the OP, and pointed
Mon Sep 30, 2013, 07:01 PM
Sep 2013

out shutdown over health could KILL thousands of people and harm millions economically.

“But one faction of one party in one house of Congress in one branch of government doesn't get to shut down the entire government just to refight the results of an election. Keeping the people's government open is not a concession to meet (me?). Keeping vital services running and hundreds of thousands of Americans on the job is not something you give to the other side. It's our basic responsibility. …

Five years ago right now, our economy was in meltdown. Today our businesses have created 7 1/2 million new jobs over the past three and a half years. The housing market is healing and our deficits are falling fast. The idea of putting the American people's hard-earned progress at risk is the height of irresponsibility, and it doesn't have to happen. …

Tens of thousands of Americans die every single year because they don't have access to affordable health care. Despite this, Republicans have said that if we'd lock these Americans out of affordable health care for one more year, if we sacrifice the health care of millions of Americans, then they'll fund the government for a couple of more months. Does anybody truly believe that we won't have this fight again in a couple of more months? Even at Christmas?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/transcript-president-obamas-sept-30-remarks-on-looming-government-shutdown/2013/09/30/87437ea6-2a10-11e3-b139-029811dbb57f_story.html

ProgressiveEconomist

(5,818 posts)
6. Or Bolsheviks of the estreme right. In service to their "revolution
Mon Sep 30, 2013, 09:53 AM
Sep 2013

of the haves", Republicans hve been subverting small-d democratic majority rule for many years.

Claiming to represent "the people", who rejected them overwhelmingly at the ballot box, a tiny minority insists that the majority cede all power to them. The Senate now has two sets of rules: a majority is 51 votes, but only when those 51 are Repoublicans, When Democrats have the Speakersip, a majority requires 60 votes And this has been going on for so long that the media no longer consider it news.

IMO the current Republican strategy is "gangster government", more like terrorisn or a coup d'etat than a political maneuver.

The fringes of the Republican party literally are willing to commit politically-inspired premeditated murder of obstetricians. "When they came for the obstetricians, I said nothing, because I was not a doctor...."

ProgressiveEconomist

(5,818 posts)
7. Ewmember when chief R pollster Frank Luntz said Orwell's 1984 was his favorite book?
Mon Sep 30, 2013, 03:49 PM
Sep 2013

That was really chilling, wasn't it?

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