Hobby Lobby doesn't cater to "our people" (it's Jews this time)

[KamaAina]

Hobby Lobby's homophobia is well-known, and second only perhaps to that of Chick-fil-A. But Jews? Srsly?

http://marlboro-coltsneck.patch.com/groups/opinion/p/hobby-lobby-doesnt-cater-to-our-people

When one of our friends asked where the Chanukah goods were, was told there wouldn't be any, and asked why. According to her, the answer was: "We don't cater to you people"

Understandably irate, she called the home office, and was told, indifferently, that hobby lobby doesn't have Chanukah on its list of holidays.

Having heard this, and always wanting to be certain of what I write about, I just called the Marlboro hobby lobby and asked whether it would be stocking any Chanukah merchandise. I was told it would not. When I asked why, the answer - verbatim - was:

"Because Mr. Green is the owner of the company, he's a Christian, and those are his values"

[sharp_stick]

1. It doesn't surprise me

fundamentalist Christian wackos are just as crazy as the fundamentalist wackos of any other religion.

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

2. His values are to turn away sales and customers while creating enemies...

[RGinNJ]

3. They had better think of moving out of Monmouth county than.

[madaboutharry]

5. +1

[KamaAina]

10. Tru fax.

FYI, I would guess that, in a five mile radius around that Marlboro store, a solid one-third of all residents are Jewish. But, then again, what is the difference? Since the reason Hobby Lobby won't sell Chanukah goods is unrelated to how many Jews are in the area, it wouldn't matter if the percentage were higher or lower.

[madaboutharry]

4. What a jerk.

[gollygee]

6. That sounds about right for that company.

They are all about exclusion.

[atreides1]

7. A Misogynist and Anti Semitic!

Mr. Green is doing great...this is what the real "conscious" clause is all about!

[DefenseLawyer]

8. I don't care what he does or does not carry.

Although admittedly, I'm rarely in the market for arts and crafts, I wouldn't buy anything from a jerkoff like that anyway.

[etherealtruth]

9. I "recc'd" this

Not because I "like" it (I am disgusted by it) ... but , for exposure

[LittleGirl]

39. me too. eom

[etherealtruth]

56. I am always afraid

... that someone is going to think I recc'ed something horrible because I support it

[Chan790]

80. Another exposure rec. n/t

[SomethingFishy]

11. Yeah... But Halloween is a serious Christian holiday and we are going to stock the hell

out of some Halloween shit!

There's some Christian values for you. I'm sure it has nothing to do with the fact that Halloween is the 2nd biggest money making holiday after Christmas. It's because Christians LOVE Halloween! Unlike those horrible gays and jews...

[Zorra]

12. I've never even seen a Hobby Lobby, and now I hope I never do.

I will never buy anything from them, and will encourage others to do the same if the opportunity arises.

[Skittles]

13. so........being Jewish isn't a "value"

well, I have long refused to shop in that POS place

[Jefferson23]

14. At least he makes it clear that he values being a bigot.

Never heard of Hobby Lobby, asshole.

[B Calm]

15. Hobby Lobby is too damn expensive anyways!

[ladjf]

31. Compare any of thier RC aiplanes prices to the same models on the INTERNET. nt

[whopis01]

64. Is the RC store the same company?

I only ask because I went into a hobby lobby once expecting it to carry rc stuff - but it was all arts and crafts type hobbies.

But I know I had been in another hobby lobby (different town) and all it had was rc stuff.

So - I wasn't sure if they were the same or not. Won't be planning on going back there anyway - but still curious.

[ladjf]

73. Yes. It is the same store. nt

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My comment about having bought an RC plane at HobbyLobby might be erroneous. There is very similar hobby shop in the same area with a similar name that I might have bought the plane.
If so, my appoligies to HobbyLobby.

[tosh]

16. Just another entry on my growing list of reasons

to never spend a penny in that "way-way-way overpriced made-in-china emporium".

[WorseBeforeBetter]

17. Family members dragged me to a HL in Pennsylvania...

nothing but Cheap$hitFromChina. Guess "those people" are OK, as long as wages are low enough.

[yuiyoshida]

18. Taking a wild guess they are probably racist as well...

I don't think I would buy from their website, if they even have one.


baka, doji, manuke!

[PM Martin]

19. Christian fundamentalist = anti semite.

Safe to say they are racist too.

[noiretextatique]

85. add in homophobic and sexist

and no doubt, republicon. all those wonderful "family values," republicon-style.

[Trekologer]

20. That store opened within the last few months (it is near by where I live)

I've never gone in it though.

Marlboro, NJ has a non-trivial Jewish population. They (Hobby Lobby) clearly didn't research the demographics of the area. They might find a "free market" solution is right around the corner...

[stevenleser]

21. Once I see a person or an organization bigoted against one group, it doesnt surprise me to see

bigotry toward at least one other group. I expect it. Usually it's the LGBT Community, Women and muslims.

[lunasun]

49. +1

[Dawson Leery]

22. Hobby Lobby is (sadly) coming to Connecticut. I have no plans on EVER shopping there.

[Chan790]

83. Where?

Please please please let it be in West Hartford or Farmington; I'll laugh so hard.

[Scuba]

23. Do they have Halloween crap? Is that a Christian holiday?

[jmowreader]

29. It's a Witnessing Opportunity

Decorate your house with devils, witches and ghosts to lure the kiddies in so you can drop a Chick Tract in their goody bags.

[leftyladyfrommo]

24. What I like about Hobby Lobby

is that they spout all this religious nonsense and right wing stuff and just about every item in their stores is made in China.

I wonder how they respond when this is pointed out?

[Brainstormy]

25. I Loathe Hobby Lobby

I cannot stand the hymns and proselytizing over the store PA while you're shopping.

[Loup Garou]

26. Talibangelicals

[Oldtimeralso]

27. Hobby Lobby is hypocritical

Hobby Lobby stores are closed on Sunday. The owner mandates this, but it is also mandatory that their warehouse and loading workers MUST work on Sunday. This is done to insure that their merchandise (junk) is delivered to their stores on Monday.

[lunasun]

50. wow! so typical though

[Loup Garou]

28. In 2008 Hobby Lobby carried some really tacky Sarah Palin signs.

[MADem]

30. Jesus H. Christ on a unicycle!!! Someone needs to tell Mister Green that Jesus, on or off that

unicycle....was a JEW.

I guess he's not catering to Jesus, then!

Stupid, stupid man!

[Rex]

32. Christian values? The ones that Jesus taught

or the ones Pat Robertson preaches about?

[Bluenorthwest]

33. I've never seen a Hobby Lobby but I'm told they don't use UPC pricing code scanning for

check out and inventory because of 'the mark of the beast' but almost all of their stuff comes from China.

[Warren DeMontague]

34. I'm old enough to remember when certain higher-end hotels only allowed "the Jews" in August

the rest of the summer was off limits.

[telclaven]

77. Err? Why?

What's special about August?

[Warren DeMontague]

79. Dunno.

I guess the rest of the season had to be reserved for the people who didn't want to be around us.

[Aerows]

35. Asshat n/t

[Old Navy]

36. Fuck Hobby Lobby

I hope it goes out of business really soon as fake Xtians gets exposed.

[lastlib]

37. Let's see, that would be a violation of the Civil Rights Act, wouldn't it?

[onenote]

41. Don't think so.

Just incredibly bad business judgment.

[demwing]

46. nope

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Refusing to serve a customer based on their religion, ethnicity, or race would be, but declining to sell specific religious, ethinic, or racial specialty items would not.

[lastlib]

52. Discrimination based on religion is also covered by the 64-CRA

[demwing]

55. You are, of course, correct.

And my post has been edited accordingly.

[Orrex]

38. Is this for real?

I read the exact tale almost verbatim on Etsy's discussion forum a day or so ago.

Hobby Lobby is shitty for a whole bunch of reasons, but I'm not sure how to take this story.

[Sheldon Cooper]

74. I checked their website's shop online search engine.

I entered every variation in spelling for Hannukah, and there were exactly zero results. That says something to me.

[Orrex]

75. Well, if you search for "Jewish," it helpfully suggests "yellowish" instead

And if you're looking for hankies, you need only search for "Hannukah." Very useful!


Hey, I'm not defending this creepy, cultish establishment. I haven't shopped there since I learned of their whole corporate Christianist pandering years ago. However, I'm reluctant to give this particular story fully credit until it's corroborated by something more solid than three separate retellings, all alleging to be first-hand accounts.

[Sheldon Cooper]

76. I know what you mean, anecdotal evidence is anecdotal, after all.

But at Joanne and Michael's, I found tons of Hanukkah stuff. Nothing at Hobby Lobby. Read into that what you will, but whether the sales clerk actually said those words or not, it seems pretty clear where Mr. H. Lobby stands on the subject.

[Orrex]

78. Yes, the exclusion is hard to overlook

Well, except for that one Jew. They seem to like him a whole bunch.

All the others? Not so much...

[dawnie51]

40. Does this surprise anyone?

The phrase American Taliban is apt. These people (pseudo-Christians) are turning this country into an insane asylum, along with the NRA and this joke of a congress and supreme court. Can you think of any other group of business people who would so insult potential customers? They need to be drummed out of business, the lot of them

[Hubert Flottz]

42. Hobby Lobby has the highest prices around.

Been there once, bought 0, never went back.

[Coyote_Bandit]

43. if memory serves me right

The Green family also owns Mardel Christian bookstores - and rather effectively used their $50 million or so in donations to Oral Roberts University to remove heir apparent and general screw-up Richard Roberts and sever all ries between he and the university.

[Gothmog]

44. This company has issues

This company hates women and it appears non-christians

[Eleanors38]

45. Well. I'll get my plastic model battleships elsewhere.

[Hayabusa]

65. May I recommdend

GandGModelshop.com? Yeah, their markup is a bit high, but they're a long-running hobby shop in the Houston area. I went there when I was in the area on vacation and absolutely fell in love with it.

Sadly, they don't sell paints or glues through their online store, for obvious reasons. Damn it, I needed some plastic cement, too, after I spilled my first bottle.

[Eleanors38]

70. I just used some shoe-type glue. Had the same headache I got after building models.

Thanks for the tip. The old five & dimess are long gone, and so are the "first generation" specialty shops. Hell, so are Revell, Monogram, and Aurora for all I know. I did build some Waterline models yrs back. Not bad.

[Hayabusa]

71. Revell/Monogram still exist

I just have a brand loyalty to Tamiya.

[bluemarkers]

47. because nothing says Happy Holidays like cheap plastic crap

from China ....

[Mopar151]

48. If you remove the Pagan influence from Christmas at H/L

They'd have damm little to sell for "the holidays".

[JDPriestly]

51. I can't stand Hobby Lobby.

They played fundamentalist music the whole time I was in there. That's the music from my childhood. Nothing against it. But it does not belong in a store while I am shopping and spending Satan's lucre. (Joking a little, but it is inappropriate and offensive to have religious music playing while you are shopping.)

[GoCubsGo]

84. It's not all fundie music.

I was in there years ago, and I heard this familiar song over the store audio system. I couldn't place it at the time, but when I got home, it dawned on me that it was a song that I heard regularly at Catholic Mass. It creeped the hell out of me, for the very reason you stated. Ick. That, on top of the fact that most of the stuff they sell is pure JUNK, and a huge waste of our natural resources. I can't believe there are that many people who want that kind of shit in their homes.

[JDPriestly]

88. True. True. I have hobbies. But please.

[Roland99]

53. Call them back. Tell them, "Jesus was Jewish"

*mind blown*

[Ineeda]

54. I believe they tried to

claim they were a church and therefore entitled to tax-exempt status and exemption from regulations that are required of retail establishments. The IRS demurred.

[benld74]

57. Anyone can find the SAME or BETTER items HL sells for LESS elsewhere,,,,,,

[Shrike47]

58. Hymns and scripture while you're in the store shopping? I'd run screaming from the building.

We don't have any HLs around here; I'll be sure to avoid when traveling.

[Old Navy]

60. If someone was open-carrying at this point... I'd approve of the destruction of the said speakers...

This shit belongs in a church, not in a store.

[Old Navy]

59. Our nearest Hobby Lobby store is still open despite few people shopping here...

wonder if they are taking a major major hit on their valuation - it's gotta be pretty worthless.

I just hope they enter bankruptcy and have to sell off their assets. I might just look at RC planes or two at a deeply discounted prices.

[ZombieHorde]

61. Buddhists and pagans have a hard time buying religious supplies in mainstream stores too. nt

[KamaAina]

62. See post No. 10 above

Judaism is most definitely "mainstream" in the part of New Jersey where the store is located.

[SomethingFishy]

63. Oops they are trying to back up now...

http://princeton.patch.com/groups/business-news/p/hobby-lobby-considering-jewish-holiday-decorations-on-shelves-princeton

After internet backlash from a local blogger about its Marlboro Township store, Hobby Lobby is evaluating its merchandise.

Over the weekend, Marlboro residents began to discover and circulate a blog post detailing Hobby Lobby's lack of Jewish holiday decorations.

The post, written by Ken Berwitz, author of the political book Hopelessly Partisan, recounts a conversation Bewitz said he had with the craft and home store's corporate office in which the office allegedly answered, "Because Mr. [David] Green is the owner of the company, he's a Christian, and those are his values."

In a brief email to Patch, Hobby Lobby representative Vincent Parker said, "We currently do not carry any Hanukah items in our store. Our customers have brought this to our attention and we are currently evaluating our Holiday items and what we will carry in the future."

Wouldn't shop there anyway...

[Texasgal]

66. Yeah because christians

need all that CRAP made in china for their "values".

[Hayabusa]

68. Tamiya's a Japanese company, thank you very much.

Pretty much the only thing I did buy at Hobby Lobby.

[HeiressofBickworth]

67. If I'm really desperate for some cheap Chinese shit

I can go to any number of other places -- Jo-Ann's, Michel's, even a bit of hobby junk can be found at Fred Meyer. And then there's all the on-line stores. When I wanted to start crocheting a baby blanket for a friend, I was dismayed to find that the lovely yarn store in the next town over has disappeared. I couldn't find another so I wound up buying yarn from Michel's -- it was ok but I would have been happier with a better quality. I've since found an on-line yarn store that seems to have quality merchandise. Next time I want to crochet a blanket, I'll check with them first. But Hobby Lobby -- not even on my horizon.

[Jeff In Milwaukee]

69. It's not like I was going to shop there anyway...

But Goddam It, should I suddenly suffer some kind of traumatic head injury that makes we want to start scrap-booking, there's no fucking WAY I'm going to shop there.

(Apologies in advance to liberal and progressive scrap-bookers...)

[progressoid]

72. So, no Flying Spagetti Monster ornaments then either I guess...

[Tommy_Carcetti]

82. I literally never heard of Hobby Lobby until this post.

What is it, like Michael's?

[noiretextatique]

86. i'll assume they do not sell Kwanza items either

probably against their values too.

[Safetykitten]

87. They really do have the most varied Christmas stuff and very nice too bad this guy does not get it.

he could have much more customers.