If we cave in now

[DonCoquixote]

Let me be blunt. If we cave into the GOP now, we will not only be killing Americans that die for want of healthcare, we will be setting the stage for complete, uncomprised domination and exploitation of this country by the superwealthy.

We know the Tea Party is paid for by the Koch Brothers and other superwealthy types, the sort of people for whom Millionaires are just another butler, maid, or hunk of meat to be ground into dog food. The Superwealthy will span any number of parasites and stormtroopers, throwing them all the needed money. Our Media of course, being the detestable whores they are, will grovel, and try to make things worse because that only makes them more money. You think Newt Gingrinch and ted Cruz are the worst we can see, wait until the Tea Party and their masters release the next batch, the ones that will OPENLY CALL for Medicare, Social Security, Voting Rights, and Public Education to be sent to the Gallows!

Yes, it boggles the mind, but if we cannot even defend what even Obama supporters have to admit is a hioghly compromised, highly weakend, dog-bone of a social program, we might as well hang it up. I hate to use the anology of rape, but considering the tea party folks are the same folks who are trying to reduce women to chattel by taking away even the very right to control their own wombs, it fits. The Super-rich want to rape us, and force us to bear their kid so that they can sell it to the slave market. There is no room for compromise here, it is a matter of win or die.

[Skittles]

1. I agree

these teabagging bastards are bought and paid for

[DCBob]

2. Democrats are not caving.

This is a clear cut situation that has united Democrats and the President.

[yuiyoshida]

3. If the dems cave in now...

We may as well start digging our own caves..because this country will not be fit to live in.

[ChangeUp106]

4. Not only not cave, but handle it properly

Make sure people understand the ramifications and who's responsible

[DonCoquixote]

5. I agree

we need to actually frame the message this time.

[wandy]

6. I could not agree more. Backing down would only provide an open invintation........

for more misuse and a greater opportunity for the GOP owners to regress the nation further towards some previous century.
The GOP owners have gone well beyond greed.

[SecularMotion]

7. Hillary agrees

“I think there are all sorts of threats going on by particularly some of the Republicans in the House and a few notables in the Senate. I think they ought to go back and read history … it wouldn’t be the worst thing for Democrats if they tried to shut the government down. We’ve seen that movie before. It didn’t work out too well [for Republicans].”

In fact, she argued, Republicans would be making a grave mistake to force a shutdown or, even worse, a default on the nation’s debt in order to try and force Democrats’ hand on the health care law. Clinton, of course, devoted the early part of her husband’s presidency to an ultimately failed effort to enact comprehensive health care reform — and was a vocal advocate for overhaul during her 2008 presidential campaign.

http://www.politico.com/story/2013/09/hillary-clinton-obamacare-defunding-97283.html