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SwampG8r

(10,287 posts)
Sat Mar 3, 2012, 11:59 AM Mar 2012

state by state speak your mind about ...Missouri

Last edited Sat Mar 3, 2012, 01:23 PM - Edit history (1)

i have friends there
it isnt southern but it seems like it is
politically it has been a bellweather state
st louis is the gateway to the west with a very nice arch to prove it
it also was a very important shipping stop on the mississippi river
historically Missouri has had a checkered past
the Missouri compromise fed into the civil war and the mormon wars exiled citizens and confiscated their lands
Missouri has led the way on a lot of american history
the pony express started there and so does the oregon trail
these opened the west to us all
its the show me state

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state by state speak your mind about ...Missouri (Original Post) SwampG8r Mar 2012 OP
Boring. randome Mar 2012 #1
So often people can't see the forest pipoman Mar 2012 #33
Where we Iowans get our fireworks Itchinjim Mar 2012 #2
sigh.. mostly that Rt 80 doesn't go through it... annabanana Mar 2012 #3
I'm from Kansas City........... TheDebbieDee Mar 2012 #4
i just start them SwampG8r Mar 2012 #6
is Liberty memorial in Missouri, or Kansas? hfojvt Mar 2012 #8
The Liberty Memorial is in Kansas City, Missouri.............. TheDebbieDee Mar 2012 #9
no, they used to be about half a mile apart IIRC hfojvt Mar 2012 #11
An MBA from Rockhurst once meant you could xmas74 Mar 2012 #20
Hey, I'm almost your neighbor! lastlib Mar 2012 #30
I think it deserves a capital "M". ;) JHB Mar 2012 #5
know what? SwampG8r Mar 2012 #7
Where I was born proud2BlibKansan Mar 2012 #10
I drove across it once. Arugula Latte Mar 2012 #12
You really missed out. xmas74 Mar 2012 #21
Yeah, I would like to explore the Ozarks, etc. Arugula Latte Mar 2012 #26
Order a state guide sometime. xmas74 Mar 2012 #29
Mark Twains Cave AsahinaKimi Mar 2012 #13
I was born and raised there. Very pretty country. Arkansas Granny Mar 2012 #14
My home, MadHound Mar 2012 #15
I love Rock Bridge State Park xmas74 Mar 2012 #22
Its voters chose a corpse over Asscroft. KamaAina Mar 2012 #16
The State of Missouri chowder66 Mar 2012 #17
Spent most of my life here, and I hate to say, but it's not getting any bluer . . . hatrack Mar 2012 #18
Hartzler should be gone soon. xmas74 Mar 2012 #23
I'm gonna help! eom lastlib Mar 2012 #31
are you in the district? xmas74 Mar 2012 #35
My home state The Genealogist Mar 2012 #19
I lived in Kansas City for 5 years cordelia Mar 2012 #24
They're putting a bust of Rush Limbaugh in the Statehouse WhoIsNumberNone Mar 2012 #25
That's because one person makes that decision xmas74 Mar 2012 #28
My only experience in Missouri is from travels through on I-70 randr Mar 2012 #27
In fairness pipoman Mar 2012 #32
There are also plenty of rest stops proud2BlibKansan Mar 2012 #34
 

TheDebbieDee

(11,119 posts)
4. I'm from Kansas City...........
Sat Mar 3, 2012, 01:03 PM
Mar 2012

You forgot to mention that Missouri (Kansas City) is home to the Negro Leagues Baseball Museum, the Jazz Museum at 18th Street and Vine in the Jazz District, the Nelson-Atkins Art Museum just east of the Plaza (they have a fantastic ancient Egyptian and ancient Chinese collection), some of the best colleges and universities in the country.

Did you know that Devry University (12 campuses in the US and Canada) was started in Kansas City? It was originally known as the Missouri Institute of Technology, then Bell & Howell and finally emerged as the tech-based school that we know today.

And Rockhurst University is one of the finest Jesuit Colleges in the country.

The world's biggest law firm, Shook, Hardy & Bacon opened their doors here in Kansas City first.

Two of the world's premier construction and engineering firms, Burns & McDonnell and Black & Veatch started their operations here.

SwampG8r

(10,287 posts)
6. i just start them
Sat Mar 3, 2012, 01:21 PM
Mar 2012

i depend on the people who do know like yourself to fill in the blanks
i have had really good posts replying to some of these that are way more informative than i can ever be from way over here
as someone who knows very little about it i thank you for putting the facts here
your contributions and the others like it on other states are the fish this bait is for

hfojvt

(37,573 posts)
8. is Liberty memorial in Missouri, or Kansas?
Sat Mar 3, 2012, 01:39 PM
Mar 2012

Then there's Independence, home of Harry S. Truman, and also the MidAmerica Historical Library. I used to drive there to do my unemployment once a month.

And then there are the Missouri roughians.

When Kansas first became a state, Missourians crossed over the river and committed voter fraud so they could make Kansas a slave state.

My brother and sister live in Missouri. I came down here because I got a job in Missouri, but could not afford to live on that side of the river. So instead, I ruined Kansas.

 

TheDebbieDee

(11,119 posts)
9. The Liberty Memorial is in Kansas City, Missouri..............
Sat Mar 3, 2012, 02:25 PM
Mar 2012

I work in a building that is a few hundred yards away from the base of the Liberty Memorial. The City of Kansas City is doing some type of major renovation to the grounds on which the Liberty Memorial sits - they've torn down a several hundred foot-long treeline and this should only improve the view from the top of the memorial.

Is the Mid-America Library and the Truman Presidential Library the same thing? I've visited the Truman Library/Museum - Truman's limo is in there as well as a replica of the office he worked out of in his final years. Also, the famous "The Buck Stops Here" sign is on his desk.

hfojvt

(37,573 posts)
11. no, they used to be about half a mile apart IIRC
Sat Mar 3, 2012, 04:35 PM
Mar 2012

but the MidContinet (I got the name wrong and probably still have it wrong) moved.

Way back before I moved into this area, I always found it ironic that the big part of Kansas City isn't in Kansas.

I also remember one childhood trip down here. My parents were looking for something in KCMO, but we kept getting lost and being forced to drive over the river. I think we crossed that river about three times without ever wanting to.

xmas74

(29,674 posts)
20. An MBA from Rockhurst once meant you could
Mon Mar 5, 2012, 09:44 PM
Mar 2012

sign your own paycheck. It still means a huge foot in the door for decent jobs, compared to most MBA candidates. I know a few Rockhurst grads-very smart and passionate.

I have family working for Black and Veatch.

And I love Nelson-Atkins.

proud2BlibKansan

(96,793 posts)
10. Where I was born
Sat Mar 3, 2012, 04:15 PM
Mar 2012

A very beautiful state.

Lots to do for outdoors lovers. The state park system is outstanding.

Lots of history in MO as well.

 

Arugula Latte

(50,566 posts)
12. I drove across it once.
Sat Mar 3, 2012, 04:36 PM
Mar 2012

I have to say, my main impression was ... I wanted to get out of there. Maybe it was the route we took but it seemed like redneck central.

xmas74

(29,674 posts)
21. You really missed out.
Mon Mar 5, 2012, 09:46 PM
Mar 2012

The state park system is one of the best in the nation. Most are free to enter and camping is very cheap.

 

Arugula Latte

(50,566 posts)
26. Yeah, I would like to explore the Ozarks, etc.
Mon Mar 5, 2012, 10:40 PM
Mar 2012

We didn't have time to get to any of the good places.

xmas74

(29,674 posts)
29. Order a state guide sometime.
Tue Mar 6, 2012, 07:35 PM
Mar 2012

They're free.

There are many things to see and do here. Missouri has some wonderful parks and lots of historical sites to visit.

 

MadHound

(34,179 posts)
15. My home,
Sat Mar 3, 2012, 04:51 PM
Mar 2012

It is absolutely beautiful country, from the flat north to the mountainous south. The weather is interesting, and can turn on a dime.

Full of caves, springs and other such natural wonderments, Missouri is a nature lover's delight. Vast areas of sparsely settled forest land, and yet possessed of areas of vibrant urban life.

Columbia, where I was raised, is still a wonderful college town, with all sorts of attractions, year 'round. Unique pockets of culture, such as Hermann Missouri, an old school German town.

Yes, the state does possess more than its fair share of rednecks, but many of them are still decent people nonetheless. It does have a Southern vibe in the southern part of the state, not so much elsewhere. Sadly, it is the southern part of the state that dominates the state legislature and shapes the national impact of Missouri's representation in Congress.

Still and all though, I would rather live here in Missouri than in any other state. If I want culture, or nightlife, or great cuisine, I can find it. If I want to retreat from society and simply talk with the wind and weather, I can do that as well. Yes, my state has its faults, but what state doesn't? I think that the virtues of this state far outweighs its faults.

chowder66

(9,067 posts)
17. The State of Missouri
Sat Mar 3, 2012, 06:20 PM
Mar 2012

I was born and raised there. It really is beautiful. Trees, seasons (except the hot, humid summers), love the weather changes (ice storms, heavy snow storms, sideways rain, rain with sun, winds, microbursts, etc) kindness, culture, parks, fountains, diversity, music, etc ( I grew up in Brookside in KCMO - metropolitan) around every kind of artist so I feel pretty lucky. I laugh when I go home (live in L.A.) and friends and family complain about the traffic.

And yet they are right! The roads seem clear to me but the one or two drivers on the road there are a sight to behold. If I would tunnel my vision and focus on the few cars out there it would feel just like L.A. That sucks to have open roads but drivers who are impossible! Grrrr for KCer's.

Missouri has been a pretty damn good hub for music on and off over the decades. Early on it was Jazz and Blues which continued and may even still, then came folk and rock, then came Alt, punk, garage, college rock and New Wave...not sure what it's like now though.

St. Louis is cool, Columbia, MO is a cool college town. While Missouri doesn't have the ocean or vast mountains, it does have fantastic rolling hills, caves, lakes, great parks and trees for days (most excellent for climbing).....Taking the train is a great way to explore or just walking the neighborhoods. K.C. Metro is or was a great city to walk.

hatrack

(59,584 posts)
18. Spent most of my life here, and I hate to say, but it's not getting any bluer . . .
Sat Mar 3, 2012, 07:40 PM
Mar 2012

If anything, I'm reminded that the "-uh" used to pronounce the end of the state's name by pandering candidates needs only a D in front of it to serve as a handy shorthand for the political views of way too freaking many of the people I meet and interact with.

KC, SL & Columbia are oases in a growing sea of red, Springfield/Branson/Joplin have been the speaking-in-tongues vortex of the nation for years, and steady growth in the numbers of retirees coming to the Ozarks isn't helping matters.

The occasional statewide office-holder we're able to boost into office on our side (Sen. McCaskill, Gov. Nixon) doesn't really come close to making up for (hmmm, let's see) Ashcroft, Blunt, Baby Blunt, Bond. In the house, we have Akin, Emerson and threw over Ike Skelton last time in favor of (insert vomiting noise here) a tea-party assclown like Hartzler.

Not getting much smarter our there . . .

OTOH, there are reasons I stay . . .

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xmas74

(29,674 posts)
23. Hartzler should be gone soon.
Mon Mar 5, 2012, 09:49 PM
Mar 2012

That's my district and most now seem to regret voting Ike out of office.

xmas74

(29,674 posts)
35. are you in the district?
Mon Mar 12, 2012, 07:45 PM
Mar 2012

Where? (If you want, send it in a pm. I understand not spreading your location far and wide, especially if it's one of the smaller towns.)

Also, have you joined us over in the Missouri group? http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=forum&id=1061 Please join us over there-we'd love to hear from you!

The Genealogist

(4,723 posts)
19. My home state
Sat Mar 3, 2012, 10:34 PM
Mar 2012

Missouri feels like a catch-all state. Sometimes I don't think there is all that much socio-cultural or geographical/geological glue that holds the state together. Southern Missouri is more like Arkansas, Tennessee and/or Kentucky. Northern Missouri feels in places more like Kansas, Iowa or Illinois. We have a little bit of everything geographically. We have hills and plains, woodlands and prairies, marshland and river bottoms. My part of the state, around Springfield, has Karst topography: limestone bedrock, with many sinkholes, springs, interesting rock formations.

I had a boss whose wife (not a native Missourian) called it the "40-something state" because we were always ranked in the 40s out of 50 on so many things, from high smoking rates to our crummy bridges.

Missouri gets redder and redder every year. It used to be that the state leaned a little blue, if anything, but was best described as purple. Now, it is pretty solidly red.

cordelia

(2,174 posts)
24. I lived in Kansas City for 5 years
Mon Mar 5, 2012, 09:50 PM
Mar 2012

Beautiful country. A lot of history. A world-class museum, the Nelson-Atkins.

Lovely, lovely people.

I enjoyed my time there very much.

xmas74

(29,674 posts)
28. That's because one person makes that decision
Tue Mar 6, 2012, 07:34 PM
Mar 2012

and that person is from Cape Girardeau. Steven Tilley is the House Speaker and makes the decision as to who is and is not put on display.

Hell, people like Satchel Page and Mel Carnahan (who was killed in a plane crash while governor) are not on display in the Statehouse.

http://www.kmbc.com/politics/30622466/detail.html

Democrats statewide are protesting the decision.

randr

(12,412 posts)
27. My only experience in Missouri is from travels through on I-70
Mon Mar 5, 2012, 10:48 PM
Mar 2012

It was a few decades back and I specifically remember thinking that they have never cleaned the roadway. And I did not find one rest stop.
I imagine the rest of the state to be beautiful but was left with a feeling that they did not care for the people traveling through.

 

pipoman

(16,038 posts)
32. In fairness
Sun Mar 11, 2012, 06:31 PM
Mar 2012

that piece of highway is extremely heavily traveled. I have been all around the state and "The States" and really believe MO is among the most beautiful and historic in the nation. Really an under rated tourist destination IMO.

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