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dkf

(37,305 posts)
Tue Oct 8, 2013, 09:39 AM Oct 2013

Power play: Harry Reid sidelined Joe Biden

Power play: Harry Reid sidelined Joe Biden

For now, Democrats have frozen Joe Biden out of shutdown negotiations. | AP Photo

By JONATHAN ALLEN and CARRIE BUDOFF BROWN | 10/8/13 5:01 AM EDT Updated: 10/8/13 9:07 AM EDT
When President Barack Obama laid out his strategy for the current debt-limit fight in a private meeting with Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid this past summer, Reid stipulated one condition: No Joe Biden.

And while Biden attended the White House dog-and-pony show meeting last week with congressional leaders, Reid has effectively barred him from the backrooms, according to sources familiar with the situation.

The vice president’s disappearance has grown ever more noticeable as the government shutdown enters its eighth day with no resolution in sight and a debt limit crisis looms. Biden was once Democrats’ deal-maker-in-chief, designing budget pacts with Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell in the summer of 2011 and New Year’s Eve 2013.

But Biden’s deals rubbed Democrats raw. He gave up too much, they said.

And for that, they have frozen him out — at least for now.

“None of the deals Biden has struck have aged well from the perspective of the Democratic Caucus,” said one Senate Democratic official aware of Reid’s face-to-face insistence that Biden be excluded.

A White House official said there are no negotiations at this point so there are no back channels for Biden to work. The official pointed to Biden’s inclusion in last week’s White House meeting with congressional leaders as an indication that the vice president is being kept in the loop.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2013/10/joe-biden-government-shutdown-debt-ceiling-97969.html#ixzz2h8pGHDRQ

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Power play: Harry Reid sidelined Joe Biden (Original Post) dkf Oct 2013 OP
This is unsourced crap, not surprising coming from Politico. There is no negotiation, so how can Mass Oct 2013 #1
Agree. It's divisive BS. Biden isn't there because there's no deal flamingdem Oct 2013 #2
Hello my post confirms your post. It's the same thing dkf Oct 2013 #8
No, it show how people like to say there is strife between democrats flamingdem Oct 2013 #12
Harry didn't want a deal, therefore Joe was never called in. dkf Oct 2013 #16
Frankly it's more favorable to Biden than earlier suggestions he was protecting his Prez ambitions dkf Oct 2013 #3
+1000 Cali_Democrat Oct 2013 #4
According to "sources at the heart of the propaganda catapult seeking to divide and conquer America" Berlum Oct 2013 #7
... Whisp Oct 2013 #5
Politico "reporting" Skidmore Oct 2013 #10
I read that Biden was washing his car on the Whitehouse driveway with no shirt on Orrex Oct 2013 #6
It was the Trans-Am.... msanthrope Oct 2013 #9
That's the one! Orrex Oct 2013 #14
I no longer question the veracity and perspicacity of The Onion....not since this..... msanthrope Oct 2013 #17
Sad but true but sad. Orrex Oct 2013 #19
This is what I sent around the Internets on Sept. 12, 2001. nt msanthrope Oct 2013 #20
This is concerning. nt msanthrope Oct 2013 #11
They Should Only Bring Biden In If There Are Negotiations..... global1 Oct 2013 #13
writers gotta write. Schema Thing Oct 2013 #15
"None of the deals Biden has struck have aged well..." DURHAM D Oct 2013 #18

Mass

(27,315 posts)
1. This is unsourced crap, not surprising coming from Politico. There is no negotiation, so how can
Tue Oct 8, 2013, 09:42 AM
Oct 2013

Biden be frozen out of something that does not exist.

flamingdem

(39,294 posts)
12. No, it show how people like to say there is strife between democrats
Tue Oct 8, 2013, 09:50 AM
Oct 2013

as in the tweets cited.

But then the analysis that adds up is not that Harry pushed Joe out but that Joe is used when dealmaking commences.

It's a right wingy thingy to push the meme of division within the Dem ranks. The Dems are very united at this time.

 

dkf

(37,305 posts)
16. Harry didn't want a deal, therefore Joe was never called in.
Tue Oct 8, 2013, 09:52 AM
Oct 2013

Still looks like the same thing I said.

 

dkf

(37,305 posts)
3. Frankly it's more favorable to Biden than earlier suggestions he was protecting his Prez ambitions
Tue Oct 8, 2013, 09:44 AM
Oct 2013

People know he was negotiating these deals in the past.

Berlum

(7,044 posts)
7. According to "sources at the heart of the propaganda catapult seeking to divide and conquer America"
Tue Oct 8, 2013, 09:46 AM
Oct 2013

...is the way the so-called "attribution" in this "article" should be worded.

 

Whisp

(24,096 posts)
5. ...
Tue Oct 8, 2013, 09:45 AM
Oct 2013

-according to sources familiar with the situation
-they said
-said one Senate Democratic official
-A White House official said


Skidmore

(37,364 posts)
10. Politico "reporting"
Tue Oct 8, 2013, 09:49 AM
Oct 2013

is enough for me to not take this as anything other than claptrap trying to gin up more division.

global1

(25,103 posts)
13. They Should Only Bring Biden In If There Are Negotiations.....
Tue Oct 8, 2013, 09:51 AM
Oct 2013

This is not the time to negotiate with the Repugs. The Dems have given ground already but they and the President should not be subjects to this continued extortion by the Repugs. When the Repugs had a chance to sit at a negotiating table they didn't take it.
Biden is on a team here. The team strategy now is 'no negotiations' - 'no conversations' until we get a clean CR passed and the debt limit is raised. Then and only then - should the Dems, the President & Biden sit down with these terrorists and talk.

Biden is a team player and he is doing his part now. This crap by Politico about Biden being shut out by Reid - is just that - crap.

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