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Thu Oct 10, 2013, 10:55 PM

Who the hell are the 87 no labels? Well here they are.

At first glance, they seem to be a group of Democratic moderates (some would call them Blue Dogs, Third Way, Conservadems, etc., etc., etc.) and Republican Moderates (Rinos, traitors to the class, socialist wanna bees, Friends of Obama, I am not up on all the derogatory terms Republicans have for groups that are left of the Tea Party) but what they really seem to be is a caucus concerned with controlling spending (Fiscal Matters). There is a stated desire to stop fighting and start fixing, but other than fixing spending problems (fiscal stuff) I don't see a lot about their issues or desires yet.

It is pretty clear that the Republicans are from the center right region of the political spectrum, while Democrats are what would be called centrists or even Center Right like Joe Manchin and Scott Peters.

What this really looks like is that group back in the 60's-80's called Rockefeller Republicans. Most of that group came form the North East and they were fiscally conservative business oriented folk who tended to be more socially liberal. (Think old New England Money, sort of like the old Bogart movie remade with Harrison Ford "Sabrina."

I find that rather than toss invective, it is good to know who these power groups are. There are certainly enough of them so that, like the Tea Party, they could have considerable influence on the way the House does or doesn't''t do its job. Any one now can look at the main site and see if their Congressman is a member of this group.

A list of 52 are below. They do not include co-chairs Evan Bayh, John Huntsman, and Joe Manchin. Clealry form the updated numbers they are a growing faction or Caucus in the House. The claim 87 members now, and are expecting 100 by years end.

Democrats and Republicans Stand United
These 52 members showed up for America: Rep. Ron Barber (D-AZ); Rep. Andy Barr (R-KY); Rep. John Barrow (D-GA); Rep. Ami Bera (D-CA); Rep. Sanford Bishop (D-GA); Rep. Cheri Bustos (D-IL); Rep. Tony Cardenas (D-CA); Rep. Joaquin Castro (D-TX); Rep. David Cicilline (D-RI); Rep. Mike Coffman (R-CO); Rep. Jim Cooper (D-TN); Rep. Rep. Jim Costa (D-CA); Rep. Henry Cuellar (D-TX); Rep. Susan Davis (D-CA); Rep. Jeff Denham (R-CA); Rep. Charlie Dent (R-PA); Rep. Sean Duffy (R-WI); Rep. Sam Farr (D-CA); Rep. Mike Fitzpatrick (R-PA); Rep. Tulsi Gabbard (D-HI); Rep. Joe Garcia (D-FL); Rep. Chris Gibson (R-NY); Rep. Tim Griffin (R-AR); Rep. Lynn Jenkins (R-KS); Rep. Bill Johnson (R-OH); Rep. David Joyce (R-OH); Rep. Adam Kinzinger (R-IL); Rep. Ann Kirkpatrick (D-AZ); Rep. Dan Lipinski (D-IL); Rep. Dave Loebsack (D-IA); Rep. Stephen Lynch (D-MA); Rep. Sean Patrick Maloney (D-NY); Rep. Pat Meehan (R-PA); Rep. Mike McIntyre (D-NC); Rep. Mike Michaud (D-ME); Rep. Mick Mulvaney (R-SC); Rep. Patrick Murphy (D-FL); Rep. Bill Owens (D-NY); Rep. Scott Perry (R-PA); Rep. Scott Peters (D-CA); Rep. Tom Petri (R-WI); Rep. Robert Pittenger (R-NC); Rep. Mike Quigley (D-IL); Rep. Tom Reed (R-NY); Rep. Reid Ribble (R-WI); Rep. Matt Salmon (R-AZ); Rep. Kurt Schrader (D-OR); Rep. Krysten Sinema (D-AZ); Rep. Steve Stivers (R-OH); Rep. GT Thompson (R-PA); Rep. David Valadao (R-CA); Rep. Todd Young (R-IN)



Now that we have some idea of who these people are, we can cuss them, discuss them, cast invective, or write them and tell them what we think.

Is your Congressman on the list?

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Agnosticsherbet Oct 2013 OP
NRaleighLiberal Oct 2013 #1
Agnosticsherbet Oct 2013 #2
nadinbrzezinski Oct 2013 #7
sweetloukillbot Oct 2013 #3
ChazII Oct 2013 #4
TheKentuckian Oct 2013 #5
Agnosticsherbet Oct 2013 #6
hedda_foil Oct 2013 #8
nadinbrzezinski Oct 2013 #10
DevonRex Oct 2013 #9

Response to Agnosticsherbet (Original post)

Thu Oct 10, 2013, 11:05 PM

1. the name that stands out for me is Griffin (quite the asshole for many reasons)....

the only NC name (my state) is McIntyre - who is a DINO in a quite red part of NC - one of the most socially conservative of congressional Dems.

Based on those two alone, my hopes are not high for anything good...but we shall see, I suppose.

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Response to NRaleighLiberal (Reply #1)

Thu Oct 10, 2013, 11:08 PM

2. Scott Peters is also to the right of the party.

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Response to Agnosticsherbet (Reply #2)

Fri Oct 11, 2013, 01:42 AM

7. Tell me about it

 

He's my rep

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Response to Agnosticsherbet (Original post)

Thu Oct 10, 2013, 11:32 PM

3. Kyrsten Sinema really frustrates me.

She was a strong liberal voice in AZ until she went to Congress. I proudly canvassed and voted for her. But in the shutdown fight she's consitently voted with the Republicans to protect her right flank in a tightly contested district here. She only won because a Libertarian split the Republican vote, and the AZ Legislature has made it impossible for 3rd party candidates to get on the ballot for next year, so she's tacking right to protect herself.
She's not a centrist, but she's voting with the Republicans out of fear of attack ads next year. And it may lead to her getting primaried from the left and losing her seat.
At least that's what I assume - she may have just been immediately corrupted by Washington, or been a DINO in disguise. But I think it's all gamesmanship for 2014.

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Response to sweetloukillbot (Reply #3)

Thu Oct 10, 2013, 11:38 PM

4. She is my rep as well

and won my vote. However, your observations are right on as her opposition will be another female. Four of AZ reps are listed.

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Response to Agnosticsherbet (Original post)

Thu Oct 10, 2013, 11:47 PM

5. The invective is tossed because folks know who these motherfuckers are and what they are about.

I hate the coy bullshit trying to fig leaf these Republicans doing their trojan horse routine under rolling names as people catch on to them blended in with some open pukes that need to maintain a "reasonable" facade in swingable districts.

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Response to TheKentuckian (Reply #5)

Fri Oct 11, 2013, 01:36 AM

6. I agree that many of them deserve a bit of invective.

But I wanted to know who this group was that formed and what their agenda might be. It appears to be some form of austerity.

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Response to Agnosticsherbet (Original post)

Fri Oct 11, 2013, 01:48 AM

8. Who's up for tracing their funders?

There are too damn many of them and their TV ads aren't cheap. Where's their money coming from? '

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Response to hedda_foil (Reply #8)

Fri Oct 11, 2013, 01:56 AM

10. Oh peters, self financed

 

http://www.sandiegoreader.com/weblogs/news-ticker/2013/jan/16/two-san-diego-pols-reported-among-top-richest-in-c/

Look into the wife in the article though. While he's running as a blue dog, she's a top donor for Ronmey

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Response to Agnosticsherbet (Original post)

Fri Oct 11, 2013, 01:55 AM

9. fucking mike Coffman (R) CO.

No labels my ass. I'll smack a label on him that he earned. He's a retired Marine who was too gutless to stand up to the tea party. So he joined them. Wouldn't even disavow Birther bullshit. Stuck his foot in his mouth big time over it and then got caught on camera running away from reporters asking him to clarify his remarks. Not such a tough Marine now, eh Mike?

He's an embarrassment to to the Corps, to the House of Representatives and to Colorado. We almost threw him out last time. This time we will. He's been hiding under a rock during the shutdown. What a useless POS.

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