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Bunnahabhain

(857 posts)
Mon Oct 14, 2013, 10:04 AM Oct 2013

Home Cooking

This topic comes up in threads on a regular basis. It seems to be the feeling that the average person living in the US does not do much home cooking and I thought it would be interesting to get some feedback. As this topic often gets tied to SES I'll toss that in also by using only two categories (< 100k family annual income, > 100k family annual income).

So, do you on average cook your own dinner five or more nights a week? Is your annual household income less than 100k or more than 100k?

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Home Cooking (Original Post) Bunnahabhain Oct 2013 OP
Yes and No frazzled Oct 2013 #1
You have that power? Bunnahabhain Oct 2013 #2
We don't use processed fredamae Oct 2013 #3
Maybe and maybe. lonestarnot Oct 2013 #4
Ditto pinboy3niner Oct 2013 #7
Snort. lonestarnot Oct 2013 #8
Back atcha pinboy3niner Oct 2013 #10
OK. I'm on food stamps cali Oct 2013 #5
Bookmarking thread for this recipe! IdaBriggs Oct 2013 #14
I love, love, love my crockpot. cali Oct 2013 #17
Here's a great site with recipes for the crockpot: xfundy Oct 2013 #70
I do the blended bean thing too Bunnahabhain Oct 2013 #15
more details on the curried cauliflower/peas/tomatoes please. please. please. KittyWampus Oct 2013 #76
you bet. cali Oct 2013 #84
Thank you for the recipes..am bookmarking. nenagh Oct 2013 #101
Don't you care if the upper classes cook at home? leftstreet Oct 2013 #6
Should I have created more demarcs? Bunnahabhain Oct 2013 #9
Who even cares? leftstreet Oct 2013 #11
Really? Bunnahabhain Oct 2013 #16
Links? leftstreet Oct 2013 #18
I am not an insect to be ordered around by you. Bunnahabhain Oct 2013 #19
LOL leftstreet Oct 2013 #22
One last time... Bunnahabhain Oct 2013 #23
I certainly don't want to 'threadjack' leftstreet Oct 2013 #26
Okay, now I know where to put you. Bunnahabhain Oct 2013 #31
I pay my cook over 100k leftstreet Oct 2013 #36
Does that come with benefits and vacation? Bunnahabhain Oct 2013 #39
You don't know cooking, this thread is crap snooper2 Oct 2013 #63
unrec. SammyWinstonJack Oct 2013 #12
Yes and No... yuiyoshida Oct 2013 #13
Crab is my weakness Aerows Oct 2013 #59
I wish I could get King or Snow Crab here in the City.. yuiyoshida Oct 2013 #80
Well Aerows Oct 2013 #87
Unless you are in Alaska, the only way you are going to Jenoch Oct 2013 #122
I had it fresh while visiting yuiyoshida Oct 2013 #123
I try. Especially because I am on a very special diet for health reasons. Denninmi Oct 2013 #20
What does 'seems to be the feeling' mean? Do you have any support for your Bluenorthwest Oct 2013 #21
Every time I talk about people cooking at home Bunnahabhain Oct 2013 #24
Gallup's data, not mine, and what it says is that most Americans cook at home Bluenorthwest Oct 2013 #25
My assertion is people can cook at home. Bunnahabhain Oct 2013 #27
Your OP is not clear. No biggie. Bluenorthwest Oct 2013 #30
My OP expresses what I have surmised is the opinion of folks here Bunnahabhain Oct 2013 #32
Yes, I cook almost every day and no on the income level. klyon Oct 2013 #28
Good luck with your data collection efforts ... TBF Oct 2013 #29
I cook whenever the stove is hot! nolabels Oct 2013 #41
I love home cooking. I love to cook. :) LaydeeBug Oct 2013 #33
On average five+ nights, takeout one night, eat out mostly when traveling or special occasions. FarCenter Oct 2013 #34
home cooking nothing to do with income mainer Oct 2013 #35
I agree with all of this Bunnahabhain Oct 2013 #40
then you would be wrong. Look, I should fucking know cali Oct 2013 #58
Please educate me. Bunnahabhain Oct 2013 #66
I just explained precisely why. cali Oct 2013 #71
But your explanation Bunnahabhain Oct 2013 #72
bzzzt. another fail from you. let me explain this very simply just for you cali Oct 2013 #77
Ah, so you're one of them Bunnahabhain Oct 2013 #81
oh for pity's sake. of course most people in this country don't know how to cook cali Oct 2013 #85
I never said you can afford chuck roast Bunnahabhain Oct 2013 #90
your arrogance, lack of empathy, and obdurate cali Oct 2013 #104
Your obvious 1% upbringing has forever slanted your world view Bunnahabhain Oct 2013 #114
bzzzzzzzzt! aaaah, so you're one of THEM Scout Oct 2013 #91
LOL, lame. Very lame. Bunnahabhain Oct 2013 #92
see post #84 Scout Oct 2013 #95
LOL Bunnahabhain Oct 2013 #98
the cluelessness exhibiteed by the OP is impressive cali Oct 2013 #103
Love you too! Bunnahabhain Oct 2013 #115
yes it does. I love to cook. I'm a really good cook, but cali Oct 2013 #49
so low income doesn't cook and eats out? mainer Oct 2013 #64
no, it's not what I'm saying. I'm saying a lot of people cali Oct 2013 #88
What kind of fish are you trying to cook? Why/how are you 'failing?' I'd be happy msanthrope Oct 2013 #93
it's never as good as a restaurant's mainer Oct 2013 #102
Have you tried pancrisping on one side and then baking? With fish at home, you msanthrope Oct 2013 #111
Thanks! mainer Oct 2013 #119
I cook all my meals. Puzzledtraveller Oct 2013 #37
I cook at home and occasionally go out. Refraining from stating my income level. I love LiberalLoner Oct 2013 #38
I suck at baking, too Aerows Oct 2013 #62
I cook at home most nights SharkLasers Oct 2013 #42
What are you drinking? Bunnahabhain Oct 2013 #46
Mostly cheap beer SharkLasers Oct 2013 #47
Welcome to DU gopiscrap Oct 2013 #48
I cook most nights - fresh quick meatless meals. Avalux Oct 2013 #43
Fresh pesto Bunnahabhain Oct 2013 #44
I LOVE making fresh pesto! eissa Oct 2013 #67
yes every meal, and more loli phabay Oct 2013 #45
I am against home cooking - kids don't get enough social interaction The Straight Story Oct 2013 #50
Yes, I cook my own dinner. My income has nothing to do with it. Restaurants do not deserve to RB TexLa Oct 2013 #51
100% agree! Bunnahabhain Oct 2013 #52
I believe you. This place is strangely medieval at times, closeupready Oct 2013 #61
I believe the past fights were over reasons why the poor often don't cook from scratch. xmas74 Oct 2013 #96
you are correct .... Scout Oct 2013 #97
I replied to you downthread about the same thing. xmas74 Oct 2013 #100
We hardly ever eat out, never have even before we retired. Shrike47 Oct 2013 #53
I cook for my family almost every night. Jenoch Oct 2013 #54
Costco "Simply Delicious" series is an excellent companion for home cooks. ScreamingMeemie Oct 2013 #55
Yep we cook at least three nights a week malaise Oct 2013 #56
I make cabbage all the time Aerows Oct 2013 #57
I cook almost every meal myself. I enjoy it, and closeupready Oct 2013 #60
yes and Yes srican69 Oct 2013 #65
I love cooking and do it almost every night eissa Oct 2013 #68
annual income less than 100,000 and yes, i cook most of our dinners and make our breakfasts La Lioness Priyanka Oct 2013 #69
This afternoon I am making new batches of homemade pasta sauce and Hatch green chile sauce Zorra Oct 2013 #73
Nice! Bunnahabhain Oct 2013 #74
Cooking and Baking forum? Quantess Oct 2013 #75
I do cook, all the time lillypaddle Oct 2013 #78
we cook every meal except Friday dinner and the occasional Saturday lunch CBGLuthier Oct 2013 #79
Yes, typically all 7 nights/week - much less than 100K NRaleighLiberal Oct 2013 #82
define "cooking" Scout Oct 2013 #83
I referred to that book somewhere upthread xmas74 Oct 2013 #99
Home Cooking Polly Hennessey Oct 2013 #86
Oops! Polly Hennessey Oct 2013 #89
I cheat-cooked the past 3 days in a row ecstatic Oct 2013 #94
I'm average, or below agerage, or perhaps above average, but that would all depend Glassunion Oct 2013 #105
I cook 2-3x per week and eat leftovers most other days. taught_me_patience Oct 2013 #106
Yes, we cook at least 5 nights a week distantearlywarning Oct 2013 #107
less than 100,000 and dana_b Oct 2013 #108
More and more Link Speed Oct 2013 #109
Agreed Bunnahabhain Oct 2013 #110
We eat at home more often than not WCIL Oct 2013 #112
If by "cook", you mean "apply heat," I do "cook." alarimer Oct 2013 #113
Yes and less than Cadfael Oct 2013 #116
Yes, I cook every day and income <$100k Ruby the Liberal Oct 2013 #117
Sounds tasty! Bunnahabhain Oct 2013 #118
Yes, and I decline to answer. nolabear Oct 2013 #120
Home cooking goes in cycles, has to do with work and time rather than economy. haele Oct 2013 #121
Do sandwiches count as "cooking"? How about raw food? Is the question eat out or not or what? uppityperson Oct 2013 #124

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
1. Yes and No
Mon Oct 14, 2013, 10:07 AM
Oct 2013

Yes, I cook dinner five or more nights a week (from scratch); and No, there's no way I'm letting you use this thread as a gauge of people's incomes here.

fredamae

(4,458 posts)
3. We don't use processed
Mon Oct 14, 2013, 10:15 AM
Oct 2013

foods-don't eat out (too high a risk-sick workers, poor food quality and Disease/Toxins/Pesticides from inadequate inspections) we cook from scratch-7 days a week.
No more seafood due to ocean contamination/Fukushima and again, Lack of minimal monitoring/inspections...(we're kinda "on our own as per the head of the State Dept of Food Safety)
Income: Less

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
5. OK. I'm on food stamps
Mon Oct 14, 2013, 10:17 AM
Oct 2013

I cook meals 5-7 nights a week. What do I cook?

have a few recipes:

Chipotle black beans over rice

soak beans by other the long method or short one. Cook 2 cups of beans in 8 cups of water with a coarsely chopped carrot, and an onion cut in half until very tender. filch out the onion and carrot and discard. whir half the beans and liquid in food processor.. Saute 2 carrots and a large onion finely chopped in a bit of olive oil. Add beans, salt and 2 tbs finely chopped chipotle pepper with a tbs or so of adobe sauce. Serve over cooked rice with a dollop of sour cream, chopped onion and grated sharp cheddar. Serve with a green salad with lime cumin dressing.

Healthy and delicious.

Other meals I rely on that are cheap, healthy and delicious:

Omelets filled with- whatever strikes your fancy. I'm fond of mushroom duxelles flavored with tarragon. Add garlic bread and a green salad

Curried cauliflower, peas and tomatoes over rice

A meatless bolognese pasta sauce. Sure it's not really bolognese but it's delicious- winey and creamy with a bit of nutmeg

Dessert: It's apple time: Apple crisp, apple turnovers, apple tart, baked apple

 

IdaBriggs

(10,559 posts)
14. Bookmarking thread for this recipe!
Mon Oct 14, 2013, 10:30 AM
Oct 2013

As for the thread, I have six-year old twins, and play chauffeur for activities while working a full-time job + volunteer work. The crock pot is my life saver, but yes, we have been known to hit drive-thru places as needed when hungry children/my poor planning require. This usually screws up our budget.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
17. I love, love, love my crockpot.
Mon Oct 14, 2013, 10:33 AM
Oct 2013

it's great for child friendly recipes as well- like chicken or turkey tetrazzini, spaghetti sauces, meatballs, etc.

 

Bunnahabhain

(857 posts)
15. I do the blended bean thing too
Mon Oct 14, 2013, 10:30 AM
Oct 2013

Really makes the broth hearty. Here's a favorite of mine:

Several sprigs bunch of rosemary chopped
One bunch parsley chopped
Several cloves garlic chopped

Quickly saute in an excess of olive oil. Once the garlic starts to brown add one can cheap tomato sauce. Continue cooking for a few minutes to start the Maillard reaction. Add a few cups of water or homemade chicken broth (made from carcasses of chicken you freeze until time to make broth). Have two cups of dried garbanzo beans precooked. Food process 1/2 cup of beans and add to soup, add other beans to soup, simmer for 30 minutes.

Can serve with or without pasta in it.

The garlic and rosemary in the saute will make the kitchen smell wonderful.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
84. you bet.
Mon Oct 14, 2013, 03:56 PM
Oct 2013

(kitty, I'm a cheater. I use a good quality hot curry paste)

1 medium head cauliflower, separated into florets
1 large potato, in large dice
1 large onion, diced
1 cup frozen peas
2 tomatoes, chopped
vegetable broth
2 tbs vegetable oil
2 tbs (or to taste) fresh ginger, chopped finely


heat the vegetable oil in a large deep frying pan or a wok on medium heat. Throw in the cauliflower and potato and cook stirring occasionally, for about 10 minutes. Toss in onion and cook for another 3 minutes or so. Add chopped tomatoes, ginger and 1-2 tbsp curry paste along with 1/2- to 3/4 cup vegetable broth. Cook for another 10 minutes. Add peas, salt to taste and cook another 3 minutes. I like to top it with greek yogurt and toasted unsweetened coconut.

Enjoy.

nenagh

(1,925 posts)
101. Thank you for the recipes..am bookmarking.
Mon Oct 14, 2013, 04:34 PM
Oct 2013

i love Irish Soda bread..particularly the brown soda bread.

The ingredients are simple: brown flour & self raising flour (if you have it)Buttermilk or milk soured c lemon juice or something else. Baking soda, little salt. That's it.

The dough was formed into a circle and partially cut into quarters on top or made into scones.

Partway through cooking take the bread out, listen to the bottom of the bread and if it crackles, put it back in the oven upside down.

Magic! Inexpensive. Because it dries out quite quickly, freeze portions for future use.



 

Bunnahabhain

(857 posts)
9. Should I have created more demarcs?
Mon Oct 14, 2013, 10:25 AM
Oct 2013

I can revise the OP with your suggested demarcs if you want. I thought here on DU 100k was a good demarc. I stand open to input from you.

 

Bunnahabhain

(857 posts)
19. I am not an insect to be ordered around by you.
Mon Oct 14, 2013, 10:38 AM
Oct 2013

But I'll do your homework for you at the 50% level. Go check out the thread on Zanger's. You'll have to put some skin in the game to find the other one yourself.

leftstreet

(36,107 posts)
22. LOL
Mon Oct 14, 2013, 10:41 AM
Oct 2013

??

It was a request, not an 'order'

But seriously, why aren't you concerned about whether or not the upper classes are cooking at home? And, for that matter, what about the food habits of people who don't have homes? This just seems so exclusionary

 

Bunnahabhain

(857 posts)
23. One last time...
Mon Oct 14, 2013, 10:41 AM
Oct 2013

I offered to revise the OP to include YOUR demarcs. You instead decided to thread jack and play games.

*yawn*

leftstreet

(36,107 posts)
26. I certainly don't want to 'threadjack'
Mon Oct 14, 2013, 10:46 AM
Oct 2013

I will leave you to the task (unwittingly I'm sure) of putting working class people on the defensive

I look forward to a DU compilation of exciting recipes based on dried beans and grayed chicken carcasses flavored with $500 worth of interesting herbs purchased at Costco

 

Bunnahabhain

(857 posts)
31. Okay, now I know where to put you.
Mon Oct 14, 2013, 11:00 AM
Oct 2013

Does not cook at home five or more nights a week, under 100k.

Thanks for participating!

 

Bunnahabhain

(857 posts)
39. Does that come with benefits and vacation?
Mon Oct 14, 2013, 11:15 AM
Oct 2013

Is it in a nice part of the country? If so I would like to apply.

 

snooper2

(30,151 posts)
63. You don't know cooking, this thread is crap
Mon Oct 14, 2013, 01:06 PM
Oct 2013

Real cooking involves meat, lots of it...and lots of fucking bacon!

Income doesn't matter, steal the shit if you have to.

It's Epic Meal Time MO FO! You can't handle it!


Shepherd's Thai

yuiyoshida

(41,831 posts)
13. Yes and No...
Mon Oct 14, 2013, 10:29 AM
Oct 2013

I get paid once a month. For the first couple of DAYS...I like to have food delivered. Stuff like Sashimi, Peking Duck, dungeness crab dinner, Korean BBQ Chicken Wings, Falafals, Turkey Sub Sandwiches, and after that... I go shopping at Safeway, and bring home stuff I can make for the rest of the month, like ground Turkey..potatoes, rice, onions, Brussels sprouts, Tortilla shells, beans, and a bunch of other stuff. (Note, this includes Cat Litter, Cat food Dry and Wet, and Cat Cookies, which he loves.)

Been doing okay with this so far.. the first week I eat well, and the rest of the month, I eat what I make. Sometimes there are left overs so I will make a Crab Bisque, or freeze the remainder of the BBQ Wings to eat them later.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
59. Crab is my weakness
Mon Oct 14, 2013, 12:33 PM
Oct 2013

I LOVE it in all forms - Dungeness, King, Snow and Blue. It's all good to me!

yuiyoshida

(41,831 posts)
80. I wish I could get King or Snow Crab here in the City..
Mon Oct 14, 2013, 03:50 PM
Oct 2013

I have seen frozen Snow Crab legs on the shelf, but it does not interest me. You know, there was a time in this city you could even
have a whole lobster. Not any more. Lobster tails only. I also love steamed clams. The local Japanese restaurant used to make those, but they have stopped. They said they refuse to order them now... and have never given me a reason. I guess if I want that, I have to go down to Fisherman's Wharf and find a place, but of course...its a tourists trap, which means very high prices. The Dungeness crab I have delivered to me locally, by a Chinese place is at least 5 to 9 dollars cheaper than priced at Fisherman's Wharf.

Something is happening to our Seafood, its becoming non available all year round.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
87. Well
Mon Oct 14, 2013, 04:00 PM
Oct 2013

between the disaster we had here, with the oil spill that decimated our oyster beds and messed up our crab industry due to Horizon, then you have Fukushima and radioactive fish, I do not know how we will continue on eating seafood.

 

Jenoch

(7,720 posts)
122. Unless you are in Alaska, the only way you are going to
Mon Oct 14, 2013, 06:50 PM
Oct 2013

get snow crab or king crab is either frozen or previously frozen.

yuiyoshida

(41,831 posts)
123. I had it fresh while visiting
Mon Oct 14, 2013, 06:52 PM
Oct 2013

Vancouver British Columbia. I guess we are too far south, to get it at all.

Denninmi

(6,581 posts)
20. I try. Especially because I am on a very special diet for health reasons.
Mon Oct 14, 2013, 10:39 AM
Oct 2013

However, we do also do some carry out, and some frozen meals (Lean Cuisine, Healthy Choice). I try not to, because both are hard to get that meet all of my requirements. But time factors and lifestyle factors dictate that there are times it's that or nothing unless I just want to have a meal of cottage cheese or yogurt.

Significantly over 100k, alas, I am by far the smallest contributor to that figure.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
21. What does 'seems to be the feeling' mean? Do you have any support for your
Mon Oct 14, 2013, 10:40 AM
Oct 2013

assertion other than saying it 'seems to be the feeling'? Gallup polling on the subject finds that large majorities of Americans eat at home, last poll was 2012 but the stats are similar to those from the past.
"Large majorities of men and women and Americans of all ages and income levels report that they ate dinner at home. But young adults and those with middle and higher incomes are slightly more likely to say they ate out than are older adults and those who have lower incomes."

http://www.gallup.com/poll/156416/americans-spend-151-week-food-high-income-180.aspx

 

Bunnahabhain

(857 posts)
24. Every time I talk about people cooking at home
Mon Oct 14, 2013, 10:42 AM
Oct 2013

I get told how people lack the time/knowledge/etc. Thought I would reality test this. Your data would support my position so thank you for providing it.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
25. Gallup's data, not mine, and what it says is that most Americans cook at home
Mon Oct 14, 2013, 10:45 AM
Oct 2013

and that the differences among income groups are slight. This does not support your assertions at all, in fact quite the opposite.

 

Bunnahabhain

(857 posts)
27. My assertion is people can cook at home.
Mon Oct 14, 2013, 10:49 AM
Oct 2013

Let me repeat as apparently I was less than clear.

I am a big advocate of home cooking.

I have advocated that on more than one occasion here to be told at length why people cannot home cook.

You have provided a link to data that I will use next time I am told on DU people do not/cannot cook at home.

To be crystal clear: you have provided data to show the majority of people cook at home. I am a huge proponent of home cooking.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
30. Your OP is not clear. No biggie.
Mon Oct 14, 2013, 11:00 AM
Oct 2013

I see and hear people criticize the assumed habits of others here but I don't see people claiming that they personally don't cook or don't know how. It's just a variation on the 'Americans are idiots,except for me and thee' theme.

 

Bunnahabhain

(857 posts)
32. My OP expresses what I have surmised is the opinion of folks here
Mon Oct 14, 2013, 11:02 AM
Oct 2013

based on my interactions with them. I think your point of lowered expectations for others is well put.

klyon

(1,697 posts)
28. Yes, I cook almost every day and no on the income level.
Mon Oct 14, 2013, 10:53 AM
Oct 2013

Can not afford to dine out much. I like to cook and control what I eat.

 

LaydeeBug

(10,291 posts)
33. I love home cooking. I love to cook. :)
Mon Oct 14, 2013, 11:03 AM
Oct 2013

I absolutely FORCE myself to go out to eat at least every other week to try and keep up with what's going on...

 

FarCenter

(19,429 posts)
34. On average five+ nights, takeout one night, eat out mostly when traveling or special occasions.
Mon Oct 14, 2013, 11:06 AM
Oct 2013

You omitted the important takeout category -- what do you have against pizza and Chinese food?

There's also the grocery deli + starch and veg made at home category.

mainer

(12,022 posts)
35. home cooking nothing to do with income
Mon Oct 14, 2013, 11:12 AM
Oct 2013

I can afford to eat out 7 days a week, but I like my own cooking best so we tend to eat at home. I don't understand people who refuse to cook. It's a joy and you get the best meals!

(Except for fish. I always fail with cooking fish.)

 

Bunnahabhain

(857 posts)
40. I agree with all of this
Mon Oct 14, 2013, 11:16 AM
Oct 2013

But get into arguments here when I propose income does not stand in the way of home cooking. Thanks for the support!

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
58. then you would be wrong. Look, I should fucking know
Mon Oct 14, 2013, 12:31 PM
Oct 2013

I've been well off to where I didn't have to think about what anything cost in the grocery store or specialty food shops and now I'm on food stamps. I am keenly aware of food prices. and man, have they been going up. I'm an excellent cook. I've cooked professionally. I grew up with a mother who is the best home cook I've ever met.

It is ever so much harder to cook well without access to quality ingredients. It takes far more planning and far more creativity.'

You clearly haven't a clue.

furthermore the whole foodie thing is a luxury and poor people generally don't have the time or the education to engage in it.

 

Bunnahabhain

(857 posts)
66. Please educate me.
Mon Oct 14, 2013, 01:45 PM
Oct 2013

And be precise. What have I said to indicate I "clearly" do not have a clue? Please, quote me where this would seem to be something remotely applicable.

 

Bunnahabhain

(857 posts)
72. But your explanation
Mon Oct 14, 2013, 03:39 PM
Oct 2013

was full of all kinds of shit I did not say. The only thing I said was that income does not get in the way of home cooking. Hell, you went on at length on how you do a ton of home cooking on food stamps. I think that's great but at this point you are arguing against yourself.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
77. bzzzt. another fail from you. let me explain this very simply just for you
Mon Oct 14, 2013, 03:47 PM
Oct 2013

Yes, I do a ton of cooking on food stamps but I explained to you how labor intensive it is and how it takes education and experience. I have the time. I'm retired/disabled. I have the nutritional and cooking background. I don't have kids to cook for. Do you actually think that most people who are poor or working class have the time and the background that I do? They do not. duh. And that's hardly their fault.

 

Bunnahabhain

(857 posts)
81. Ah, so you're one of them
Mon Oct 14, 2013, 03:54 PM
Oct 2013

Those that attack someone for saying most everyone can home cook a majority of their meals. Well, someone else has linked us data showing you're wrong and I'm right.

Btw, slow =! labour intensive. Brown chuck roast and then stick it in the crock pot with onions and toss in some potatoes when you first get home from work. One example of your incorrectness. Kids will eat that like it's going out of style so wrong yet again. And I think you are expressing the height of liberal elite thinking talking about "education" needed. Here's a clue for someone raised with a silver spoon in her mouth: normal people learn to fucking cook from their parents when they are kids.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
85. oh for pity's sake. of course most people in this country don't know how to cook
Mon Oct 14, 2013, 03:59 PM
Oct 2013

that's hardly news.

oh and if you think I can afford chuck roast, think again.

your ignorance is sad and staggering.

 

Bunnahabhain

(857 posts)
90. I never said you can afford chuck roast
Mon Oct 14, 2013, 04:01 PM
Oct 2013

Your desire to paint me as something I am not is very hateful. I can understand you are probably not a happy person but it really is clouding your ability to be cogent here. FYI, home cooking =! Escoffier. That silver spoon is going to choke you yet.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
104. your arrogance, lack of empathy, and obdurate
Mon Oct 14, 2013, 04:44 PM
Oct 2013

refusal to try and grasp the reality for poor people is sick and sickening.




 

Bunnahabhain

(857 posts)
114. Your obvious 1% upbringing has forever slanted your world view
Mon Oct 14, 2013, 05:53 PM
Oct 2013

and your condescending attitude towards people that grew up with less modest means is demeaning to all of us that grew up that way.

Scout

(8,624 posts)
91. bzzzzzzzzt! aaaah, so you're one of THEM
Mon Oct 14, 2013, 04:03 PM
Oct 2013

who is clueless but seems full of arrogance and bluster.

you assume everyone has a crockpot, a kitchen, a stove, a refrigerator, pans, utensils. what if all i can afford is a one room efficiency with a shared bathroom down the hall, and there's NO COOKING ALLOWED in my building? i guess i'll just move!

and talk about needing a clue, no EVERYONE normal does not "learn to fucking cook from their parents when they are kids."

 

Bunnahabhain

(857 posts)
92. LOL, lame. Very lame.
Mon Oct 14, 2013, 04:09 PM
Oct 2013

Yes, every statement I make is designed to exhaustively describe 100% of all people. Inserting "EVERYONE" in front of every statement on most any topic will yield nothing but nonsense and an inability to discuss anything. But that's your goal, isn't it? Anything you disagree with must be derailed, mocked, and the poster attacked. I got your number.

Seriously, give me a fucking break.

Scout

(8,624 posts)
95. see post #84
Mon Oct 14, 2013, 04:21 PM
Oct 2013

have you even heard of Barbara Ehrenreich? bet you haven't, much less read the book.

LOL, boy, you've got my number all right :snort: 3 posts in this thread, and you knooooooow so well. "Anything you disagree with must be derailed, mocked, and the poster attacked. I got your number."

self important much?

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
103. the cluelessness exhibiteed by the OP is impressive
Mon Oct 14, 2013, 04:41 PM
Oct 2013

and so fucking entitled, arrogant and lacking in empathy that it's breathtaking.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
49. yes it does. I love to cook. I'm a really good cook, but
Mon Oct 14, 2013, 12:08 PM
Oct 2013

it's tough when you're on food stamps.

mainer

(12,022 posts)
64. so low income doesn't cook and eats out?
Mon Oct 14, 2013, 01:25 PM
Oct 2013

It sounds like that's what you're saying. That low income people don't have the means to cook.

Even when I was poor, I'd still use scraps with ramen. Or I'd cook omelets or spaghetti. I don't see that you have to be rich to want to prepare your own food.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
88. no, it's not what I'm saying. I'm saying a lot of people
Mon Oct 14, 2013, 04:00 PM
Oct 2013

buy convenience foods, junk food and don't really do much cooking. that's hardly news.

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
93. What kind of fish are you trying to cook? Why/how are you 'failing?' I'd be happy
Mon Oct 14, 2013, 04:14 PM
Oct 2013

to help with tips, or come on over to Cooking and Baking and post a thread!

mainer

(12,022 posts)
102. it's never as good as a restaurant's
Mon Oct 14, 2013, 04:36 PM
Oct 2013

Sometimes too dry. Sometimes falls apart and disintegrates. My only success is with steaming chinese style. My fave in restaurants is pan-roasted but I can't get it crisped at home.

I think I have a fish phobia!

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
111. Have you tried pancrisping on one side and then baking? With fish at home, you
Mon Oct 14, 2013, 05:24 PM
Oct 2013

never really get more than one 'pretty' side, so I usually sauté one side, flip it onto a bed of stir-fried greens and mushrooms (underdone), and let it bake in a hot oven for 10 minutes (per inch thickness) to get it cooked through. It gives me a well-browned side, and it doesn't dry out because it steams over the greens and shrooms. I've used that method for tilapia, hake, swordfish and salmon. Heck--one night I had only fish, onion, and a jar of salsa, so I baked the fish over the browned onion and salsa---worked like a charm.



Puzzledtraveller

(5,937 posts)
37. I cook all my meals.
Mon Oct 14, 2013, 11:13 AM
Oct 2013

I cannot afford to eat out anyway. I gross about 28k a year as a Medicaid and SNAP caseworker.

LiberalLoner

(9,761 posts)
38. I cook at home and occasionally go out. Refraining from stating my income level. I love
Mon Oct 14, 2013, 11:13 AM
Oct 2013

Cooking. My husband loves my cooking. I love baking my own bread, making my own desserts (nothing fancy, mostly cookies, I'm not so good at baking.)

I'm glad cooking is cool again. A decade or two ago, women laughed at me when I said I liked to cook because it was a badge of pride among middle and upper class white women at that time to never cook, not even know how to cook, etc.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
62. I suck at baking, too
Mon Oct 14, 2013, 12:39 PM
Oct 2013

but I am really good at putting some good dinner and lunch together. I couldn't bake my way out of a paper sack, though, and believe me, I've tried. I made cookies that even a dog wouldn't eat. LOL.

Elaborate main course dishes and salads? I'm all over it.

I'm not a big fan of sweets, so that could probably explain my inability to cook them.

 

SharkLasers

(14 posts)
47. Mostly cheap beer
Mon Oct 14, 2013, 11:58 AM
Oct 2013

and moonshine I make in the still out back. That's how I made my money to start with, bootleg alcohol.

Avalux

(35,015 posts)
43. I cook most nights - fresh quick meatless meals.
Mon Oct 14, 2013, 11:35 AM
Oct 2013

I also grow my own herbs and veggies, so that helps. One of my favorites is pasta mixed with fresh pesto (basil from my garden), sauteed tomatoes, spinach and red onion. Occassionally I'll throw some kale in there too.

My annual income would enable me to eat out every night if I wanted to, but I don't.

eissa

(4,238 posts)
67. I LOVE making fresh pesto!
Mon Oct 14, 2013, 01:46 PM
Oct 2013

But damn those pine nuts are expensive. I know people use walnuts or almonds as substitutes (not much cheaper, really) but pine nuts really make it. The kids would eat this every day, but I limit it to maybe once a month.

The Straight Story

(48,121 posts)
50. I am against home cooking - kids don't get enough social interaction
Mon Oct 14, 2013, 12:10 PM
Oct 2013

Only fundies cook at home, all sitting around praying before dinner, etc. Very controlling.

If more people ate out we would be more of a community, more jobs, and less usage of utilities (fewer leftovers, more centralized cooking means less use of natural resources, less house fires, etc).

 

RB TexLa

(17,003 posts)
51. Yes, I cook my own dinner. My income has nothing to do with it. Restaurants do not deserve to
Mon Oct 14, 2013, 12:11 PM
Oct 2013

have my money.

It takes less of my money to buy the food from grocery stores. If I made or had more money that would be even more reason restaurants would not deserve my money.

 

Bunnahabhain

(857 posts)
52. 100% agree!
Mon Oct 14, 2013, 12:13 PM
Oct 2013

It takes less money to cook at home and income has nothing to do with it! Last time I said that I was drowned in attack posts.

 

closeupready

(29,503 posts)
61. I believe you. This place is strangely medieval at times,
Mon Oct 14, 2013, 12:36 PM
Oct 2013

for a forum founded for Democrats and other liberals to discuss current events. You got flamed on an 'up is down' day, I guess, lol.

xmas74

(29,674 posts)
96. I believe the past fights were over reasons why the poor often don't cook from scratch.
Mon Oct 14, 2013, 04:22 PM
Oct 2013

One of the biggest reasons is lack of time. If you have someone who is working poor running between two and three jobs they just don't have the time, no matter how much they wish. Another reason is food deserts. Yet another is they don't have the facilities. (If you've ever read Nickled and Dimed she really goes into that part. The author thought that she would be able to make filling meals out of beans, rice, veggies and cheap cuts of meat, until she discovered that the places she could afford to rent didn't offer any type of cooking facilities, not even a hot plate.) Yet another reason is that some were never taught how to cook.

I believe that's what the arguments were about with cooking.

xmas74

(29,674 posts)
100. I replied to you downthread about the same thing.
Mon Oct 14, 2013, 04:32 PM
Oct 2013

I read it years ago and then reread it three years ago with a women's group at church. That book really opened some eyes at church! Shortly after the book I saw an "appliance drive" where the group asked for old working crockpots, electric fryers, etc. They realized that having something to cook the food in was just as important having the food.

Shrike47

(6,913 posts)
53. We hardly ever eat out, never have even before we retired.
Mon Oct 14, 2013, 12:19 PM
Oct 2013

In fact, both husband and I came home for lunch for years.

 

Jenoch

(7,720 posts)
54. I cook for my family almost every night.
Mon Oct 14, 2013, 12:23 PM
Oct 2013

We go out only occasionally, usually when traveling. I do know of a lot of families who rely on a lot of convenience foods, such as frozen meals, frozen pizza, grilled burgers and brats all summer and other foods that don't need all that much time to prepare. That's a lot of salt and food additives. I don't think income level is as much a factor in home cooking as is lifestyle and the desire, or the lack of desire, to cook at home.

ScreamingMeemie

(68,918 posts)
55. Costco "Simply Delicious" series is an excellent companion for home cooks.
Mon Oct 14, 2013, 12:25 PM
Oct 2013

And that's all you're getting from me.

malaise

(268,968 posts)
56. Yep we cook at least three nights a week
Mon Oct 14, 2013, 12:26 PM
Oct 2013

We make it easier by cutting up and seasoning both seafood, bird and vegetables when we buy them. We freeze the meat and remove it from the freezer into the fridge before we leave for work.

Truthfully we love our own cooking more than most restaurants.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
57. I make cabbage all the time
Mon Oct 14, 2013, 12:28 PM
Oct 2013

It's simple, it is fulfilling and it is full of vitamins.

I also make tender chuck steak meals. Cheap, but delicious. Ham is your friend, as is turkey. Dried beans are easy, and rice and boxed potatoes can finish out a meal better than you ever dreamed. Stuffing is quick and easy too.

Breakfast? Look no further than a Southern favorite - grits. Cheaper than dog food, and so delicious you might eat the leftovers for lunch.

 

closeupready

(29,503 posts)
60. I cook almost every meal myself. I enjoy it, and
Mon Oct 14, 2013, 12:33 PM
Oct 2013

I know what's going in to my meals. It's also economical.

I cook a few basic things all the time - oatmeal, omelettes, soups, curried eggplant, chili, chicken, lentils/rice - or I'll simply make a tuna sandwich, grilled cheese, PB&J, apples, bananas, etc.

srican69

(1,426 posts)
65. yes and Yes
Mon Oct 14, 2013, 01:35 PM
Oct 2013

My wife & I make most dinners .. and we also take lunch from home and our HHI is over 100K ( but honestly, in NY metro area - you are practically poor at that income level)

eissa

(4,238 posts)
68. I love cooking and do it almost every night
Mon Oct 14, 2013, 01:51 PM
Oct 2013

I'm not the best cook, but I do alright. Always on the lookout for creative dishes to mix things up a bit. I definitely prefer it over eating out as I try to use fresher ingredients, budget allowing (I'm under 100k.) Plus our dining options where I live are pretty limited; mainly chains which I try to avoid. We do have some great locally-owned restaurants that are really top-notch, but they can be on the pricey side, so we only go there occasionally. I'm already planning my Thanksgiving menu -- can't wait!

 

La Lioness Priyanka

(53,866 posts)
69. annual income less than 100,000 and yes, i cook most of our dinners and make our breakfasts
Mon Oct 14, 2013, 01:51 PM
Oct 2013

breakfast =homemade yogurt

lunches=we eat out at work

Dinner= homecooked at least 5 days/week

Zorra

(27,670 posts)
73. This afternoon I am making new batches of homemade pasta sauce and Hatch green chile sauce
Mon Oct 14, 2013, 03:40 PM
Oct 2013

made with chiles that I hand roast.

After the pasta sauce is done, I will use some of it for making vegetarian lasagna for dinner.

I love to cook, and would cook even if my income was over a mil.

 

Bunnahabhain

(857 posts)
74. Nice!
Mon Oct 14, 2013, 03:44 PM
Oct 2013

I feel the same way. If I had Bill Gates type of money I would still cook because I enjoy it. I love trying to recipes and new methods. I love to make my own sausage and smoked meats in particular.

lillypaddle

(9,580 posts)
78. I do cook, all the time
Mon Oct 14, 2013, 03:48 PM
Oct 2013

eat it at least 5 times a week. My income is absolutely less than $100,000 by a LOT.

CBGLuthier

(12,723 posts)
79. we cook every meal except Friday dinner and the occasional Saturday lunch
Mon Oct 14, 2013, 03:50 PM
Oct 2013

we currently earn far less than 100k but even when we did once make more than 100k we still tended to cook our own meals.

NRaleighLiberal

(60,014 posts)
82. Yes, typically all 7 nights/week - much less than 100K
Mon Oct 14, 2013, 03:56 PM
Oct 2013

We have control over our ingredients (the quality) and quantity.

We've evolved to finding nearly all restaurant meals not worth the cost, and not particularly good....using salt and fat to cover up substandard ingredients.

Scout

(8,624 posts)
83. define "cooking"
Mon Oct 14, 2013, 03:56 PM
Oct 2013

do you mean making some ramen soup on the hotplate in your efficiency/studio/single room lodging? warming up spaghetti-o's?

do i have to have a refrigerator and stove top burners and an oven? pans/utensils and a sink for washing everything?

read Barbara Ehrenreich "Nickel and Dimed" to get a look at how/why the less than $100,000 per year may not do a lot of "home cooking."

===========

personally, we are well under the $100,000, and with me working full time and him going to school full time, we have all the utensils, pan, full kitchen, but not the time and the desire to cook at home more than 3 or 4 nights a week. however, we don't have a lot of money, so "dining out" is generally along the lines of Big Boy, or local inexpensive restaurants, or pizza delivery, or fast food.

xmas74

(29,674 posts)
99. I referred to that book somewhere upthread
Mon Oct 14, 2013, 04:28 PM
Oct 2013

for the same reason you did.

Me-I cook at home most nights. I don't make much money but I do have access to a stove, fridge and oven in my home. I also bought a used crockpot at the thrift store, which works wonders. I try to cook from scratch and I freeze my leftovers for use in other meals. But I also understand how lucky I am to have what I do and how lucky I am to be able to cook from scratch. If I made just a bit less and had to live in a room there would be no way I could cook as often as I do, since many place of that type have rules against hot plates and other appliances.

Polly Hennessey

(6,794 posts)
86. Home Cooking
Mon Oct 14, 2013, 03:59 PM
Oct 2013

We have a homecooked meal each night. Last night it was Cod on a bed of tomatoes, white beans, onions and green beans after marinating the cod in an olive oil, tomato paste and lemon juice concoction for no more than 30 minutes. I sprinkled chopped kalamata olives over the top. Tonight we are having a chicken, cashew and red pepper stir-fry. I have learned to make some fairly good meals in less than 30 minutes. It can be done.

Polly

ecstatic

(32,701 posts)
94. I cheat-cooked the past 3 days in a row
Mon Oct 14, 2013, 04:15 PM
Oct 2013

Not sure I can consider it true cooking (precooked frozen jumbo shrimp and Uncle Ben's Boil 'in Bag Brown Rice). Usually I eat junk food and don't cook often.

The part that usually stops me is I don't like cleaning up a bunch of pots and pans.

I feel guilt and a little shame about how rarely I cook these days.

Glassunion

(10,201 posts)
105. I'm average, or below agerage, or perhaps above average, but that would all depend
Mon Oct 14, 2013, 04:49 PM
Oct 2013

on the perspective of the observer.

I do most of the cooking, my wife does some, sometimes I cook for the both of us, rarely I don't, yet on occasion she will cook for me, but mostly she wont, some times we cook for ourselves when the other is not around, and other times we won't, however on occasion we will eat out, but not all the time, and sometimes when when I don't cook we get delivery, but that depends on whether I will or won't cook.

As far as income goes we are in one of those two categories. So I hope this helps your study.

 

taught_me_patience

(5,477 posts)
106. I cook 2-3x per week and eat leftovers most other days.
Mon Oct 14, 2013, 04:51 PM
Oct 2013

My wife and I might go out for dinner 1-2x per week. I find restaurant food quite salty and it takes too much hassle to get there with two young kids. Income 2$50k+

distantearlywarning

(4,475 posts)
107. Yes, we cook at least 5 nights a week
Mon Oct 14, 2013, 04:54 PM
Oct 2013

We cook from scratch, using fresh ingredients (including from a small backyard garden), and after years of practice we are good at it. In fact, we don't go out to restaurants as much as we used to, because they don't make things in restaurants as good as we can now make them at home.

Currently < 100K income, although that may change soon as I am looking for a position. Also, we are in a very low COL area of the country, so even a modest salary goes a long way here.

dana_b

(11,546 posts)
108. less than 100,000 and
Mon Oct 14, 2013, 05:10 PM
Oct 2013

we cook 28 -29 days of the month. We have recently gone vegan and eating out is a little more challenging but not too bad as we live in a vegetarian/vegan friendly area (San Francisco - East Bay Area). It's the cost that keeps us at home as well as we like to cook!

 

Link Speed

(650 posts)
109. More and more
Mon Oct 14, 2013, 05:16 PM
Oct 2013

We go out for lunch almost daily, but rarely at night. I don't enjoy $200+ bar bills and would rather drink at home.

WCIL

(343 posts)
112. We eat at home more often than not
Mon Oct 14, 2013, 05:40 PM
Oct 2013

but I absolutely detest cooking. I live for the weekends when my husband (an excellent cook) fixes meals. He likes it, I don't - but I am home earlier than he is so I do the cooking. I would much rather read a book.

My mother did not teach us to cook - she did not have the patience and would not tolerate the mess, so we had to learn for ourselves when we left home. I can read a recipe and 9 times out of 10 turn out something tasty, but I get no joy from it. Cooking is also absolutely the last chore I want to think about when I come home at 5 pm, so I can understand turning to frozen pizza or Campbells.

alarimer

(16,245 posts)
113. If by "cook", you mean "apply heat," I do "cook."
Mon Oct 14, 2013, 05:51 PM
Oct 2013

I follow the directions on the back of the package or jar to the letter.

Dinner is served.

Ruby the Liberal

(26,219 posts)
117. Yes, I cook every day and income <$100k
Mon Oct 14, 2013, 06:06 PM
Oct 2013

I have a wheat allergy and can get very sick if i injest it, so went from eating out 2 meals every day to cooking every night for supper and my lunch the next day. Have learned a lot of new things and I am loving it!

Tonight, I made GF panko fried brie in olive and coconut oil and paired it with a tangy raspberry vinegar pepper deal. Made from scratch. Cooking is a hoot.

nolabear

(41,960 posts)
120. Yes, and I decline to answer.
Mon Oct 14, 2013, 06:28 PM
Oct 2013

I like to eat healthy and to know what I'm eating to the best of my ability. As to income, that's not something I discuss online.

haele

(12,650 posts)
121. Home cooking goes in cycles, has to do with work and time rather than economy.
Mon Oct 14, 2013, 06:33 PM
Oct 2013

Your question is actually rather back-wards. It also doesn't really cover the range that "Home Cooking" really consists of - what is a "home cooked meal"?

Prior to the "30 minute meal" concept and the introduction of meal kits (where the time-intensive portion was already taken care of), home cooking was pretty much for families where there was one person who could dedicate a block of time - anywhere from one to five hours a day (I've got a few "Weekend" recipes that take up to 14 hours for a Sunday meal) - to prepare and cook. Typical "Grandma's cooking" required a lot of time and effort - especially with prep, no matter how big or small the kitchen was.

So, you'll have a lot of poor families making filling meals that can stretch out over several days, using beans, rice, cheap cuts of meat or frozen veggies, and wealthy families might have a wider range of different specific entrees as meals that they can plan for over the week.
The amount of "turn on the stove" activity depends on how much prep time they have dedicated to cooking and what quantity and types of produce they have to prepare the meal with.

Back in the day, single people tended to eat out or pool together and have one person do the cooking for everyone else when they wanted a meal; otherwise, they'd eat food "on the go" - cooking at home for singles was usually left overs from one major weekly cooking effort (like a casserole or crock-pot meal), the stereotypical "beans from a can and beer", a sandwich or some other simple open a can or a package meal.
Only recently has the concept of regular home cooking for singles started taking off - and yes, I know some people will claim they made their meals regularly when they were single, but really - me and most people I know would maybe make a casserole, roast, or other main food item on Saturday or Sunday if they knew how to cook, and eat off that with maybe a side salad for the rest of the week.
As a single, there were many times it was just cereal for breakfast, a bit of fruit and sandwich for lunch, and soup, salad, and a cheesy tomato melt piece of sourdough bread for dinner - and that didn't matter if that was a year I made $15K or $85K.

I've got an old Home Ec. cookbook from the 1920's - "How to Please a Family" - that has a "year in the life" storyline about a housewife, her kids, her husband, her husband's young co-worker, and the new schoolmarm from the big city who never learned to cook, and it goes into shopping, storing, meal (and event) planning and preperation as well as the recipes.
It's interesting to read some of the side stories about how the two singles were presumed to have made due with meals and kept their households, and from what I have read from other sources, it was not too different an experience from others who lived alone household pre-appliances.

A family budget only really answers your question if there's not enough money to eat out if one feels like it or if they can fill their pantry and freezer with whatever they want.
Not if one does a lot of home cooking or not.

The amount of available time to cook actually answers your question about how much home cooking goes on in a household.

Haele

uppityperson

(115,677 posts)
124. Do sandwiches count as "cooking"? How about raw food? Is the question eat out or not or what?
Mon Oct 14, 2013, 07:00 PM
Oct 2013

What if I do not eat dinner, but a big lunch then a snack later? Sit down meals or just eating? Do you differentiate between getting all raw ingredients or can we use some processed foods?

Is this about cooking? Is this about eating out or not? What is this about?

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