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n2doc

(47,953 posts)
Sun Oct 20, 2013, 04:12 PM Oct 2013

Tea Party Spoiling for a Bigger Fight

By ALBERT R. HUNT | BLOOMBERG VIEW
Published: October 20, 2013

WASHINGTON — In the aftermath of the U.S. government shutdown and a close call with default, there is a political consensus among Democrats, many Republicans, establishment conservatives, business leaders and the inside-the-Beltway commentariat: Senator Ted Cruz of Texas and Tea Party members in the House have done grievous harm to themselves and their brand.

They caused economic and political wreckage and got nothing for it. The silver lining, critics say, is that these right-wingers may now be chastened, and Mr. Cruz’s national ambitions have been dealt a lethal setback.

That, however, isn’t the way Deedee Vaughters and Bob Vander Plaats see things.

“We’re winning this argument and now have to go back at Obamacare and getting our fiscal house in order,” says Ms. Vaughters, a Tea Party activist in Aiken, South Carolina. Mr. Vander Plaats, who heads an influential family-values group in Iowa, agrees: “Ted Cruz is a rock star sucking all the energy in the conservative movement. He’s making all the right enemies with the Republican establishment, which is taking him to unprecedented heights.” The reaction of these grass-roots activists may undercut hopes of mainstream party leaders that the Cruz-led shutdown — for which most Americans blamed Republicans — would have a sobering effect on the right wing and avoid such mayhem in the future. Yet the showdown may have only whetted the appetite for more confrontation, starting with the budget and debt battles early next year and stretching through the 2014 midterm elections and the 2016 presidential contest.

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http://www.nytimes.com/2013/10/21/us/politics/tea-party-spoiling-for-a-bigger-fight.html?_r=0

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Tea Party Spoiling for a Bigger Fight (Original Post) n2doc Oct 2013 OP
Let them come. dawg Oct 2013 #1
"Ted Cruz is sucking" DJ13 Oct 2013 #2
Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again Gothmog Oct 2013 #3
Cool. Popcorn time. n/t Laelth Oct 2013 #4
Hey teabillies, here's some more rope for ya. Scuba Oct 2013 #5
Tea control to Major Kong, take your rockstar pills and put your helmet on JHB Oct 2013 #6
Dr. Strangelove! WinstonSmith4740 Oct 2013 #11
One minature bible, one issue of prophylactics... pangaia Oct 2013 #12
Six pair of nylon stockings SnowCritter Oct 2013 #13
Love that film pangaia Oct 2013 #14
Proceed, Teabaggers Mr.Bill Oct 2013 #7
Please proceed teanuts. :) nt TBF Oct 2013 #8
Conflict = money for Ted Cruz jsr Oct 2013 #9
Also, conflict = ratings for MSM. Beartracks Oct 2013 #10
crazy never sleeps nt arely staircase Oct 2013 #15
The Black Night's got another limb ready to lop off Blue Owl Oct 2013 #16

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
4. Cool. Popcorn time. n/t
Sun Oct 20, 2013, 04:22 PM
Oct 2013

Sun Tzu: The supreme art of war is to subdue the enemy without fighting.

Napoleon: Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake.



-Laelth

WinstonSmith4740

(3,059 posts)
11. Dr. Strangelove!
Sun Oct 20, 2013, 06:26 PM
Oct 2013

One of the all time greats...it was just on TCM yesterday. Next time you watch it, check out the Russian Ambassador when Strangelove gets going against his hand...he's barely holding it together.

SnowCritter

(810 posts)
13. Six pair of nylon stockings
Sun Oct 20, 2013, 06:54 PM
Oct 2013

Shoot! Fellah could have a pretty nice weekend in Las Vegas!

(Or something like that)

Beartracks

(12,821 posts)
10. Also, conflict = ratings for MSM.
Sun Oct 20, 2013, 05:33 PM
Oct 2013

Specifically, the APPEARANCE of conflict equals ratings, which is why the MSM will manufacture conflict, or frame things in a conflict-driven narrative, when necessary -- and that's why they use the false-equivalency approach so much.

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