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GreenPartyVoter

(72,381 posts)
Wed Oct 30, 2013, 11:41 PM Oct 2013

Obamacare Poll at Yahoo about buying insurance or taking the penalty.

Down on right-hand side of page. http://finance.yahoo.com/blogs/the-exchange/obama-overlooked-10-million-americans-could-lose-health-185034418.html

"If you're 26 or older and your health insurance is about to double because you're not insured through your job, what would you do?"

Take the penalty.

Buy insurance now anyway.

Wait until I got sick to buy.

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Obamacare Poll at Yahoo about buying insurance or taking the penalty. (Original Post) GreenPartyVoter Oct 2013 OP
interesting gopiscrap Oct 2013 #1
I saw the results, shame on them! NYC_SKP Oct 2013 #2
The only ones I would forgive for not buying now are the people who honestly can't afford it. I GreenPartyVoter Oct 2013 #7
there is something I am not understanding ProdigalJunkMail Oct 2013 #3
I believe so. If you choose not to purchase ACA or take the penalty and get sick. NYC_SKP Oct 2013 #4
that's what I thought ProdigalJunkMail Oct 2013 #5
I was also thinking the same thing. GreenPartyVoter Oct 2013 #6
Compassion, and the lack thereof seveneyes Oct 2013 #20
Yahoo finance is pretty right wing johnd83 Oct 2013 #8
I've noticed most of the news is pretty RW there now. GreenPartyVoter Oct 2013 #17
Since it's a lot less than cobra... Lifelong Dem Oct 2013 #9
Being Yahoo, it makes perfect sense to frame it that way. They've been sliding GreenPartyVoter Oct 2013 #14
Leading, but interesting question... Demo_Chris Oct 2013 #10
Yep. GreenPartyVoter Oct 2013 #16
simply this DonCoquixote Oct 2013 #11
This is very true. I wonder, though, how many participants are actually 26. GreenPartyVoter Oct 2013 #15
Most younger adults don't want massive amounts of expensive (to them) coverage. Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2013 #18
Anyone who's insurance cost will double is making far more than most 26 year olds. Motown_Johnny Oct 2013 #12
It's Yahoo. What else can we expect? GreenPartyVoter Oct 2013 #13
It more a question of Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2013 #19
ACA cannot change behavior Puzzledtraveller Oct 2013 #21
 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
2. I saw the results, shame on them!
Wed Oct 30, 2013, 11:43 PM
Oct 2013
POLL

If you're 26 or older and your health insurance is about to double because you're not insured through your job, what would you do?

Take the penalty (40710)
46%

Buy insurance now anyway (15380) - your vote
17%

Wait until I got sick to buy (31951)
37%

GreenPartyVoter

(72,381 posts)
7. The only ones I would forgive for not buying now are the people who honestly can't afford it. I
Thu Oct 31, 2013, 12:38 AM
Oct 2013

hope that is not very many of them.

ProdigalJunkMail

(12,017 posts)
3. there is something I am not understanding
Wed Oct 30, 2013, 11:46 PM
Oct 2013

isn't there a standard 'open enrollment' period like with any other health insurance? I mean, if you opt NOT to buy coverage and go for the penalty and then you're diagnosed with some significant illness in JAN or FEB, you cannot go onto the exchange and buy a policy until the next 'open enrollment' period???

maybe i have misunderstood...

sP

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
4. I believe so. If you choose not to purchase ACA or take the penalty and get sick.
Wed Oct 30, 2013, 11:52 PM
Oct 2013

You will, and you should, go into debt and be held responsible for the all of the costs.

ProdigalJunkMail

(12,017 posts)
5. that's what I thought
Thu Oct 31, 2013, 12:02 AM
Oct 2013

though I have seen no confirmation of this (no, I haven't read the whole ACA). but the people saying 'i'll wait til i get sick' are really making a terribly stupid decision... hopefully someone explains the dangers to them...

sP

 

seveneyes

(4,631 posts)
20. Compassion, and the lack thereof
Thu Oct 31, 2013, 08:40 AM
Oct 2013

It's not like the ACA has a legacy yet to declare it the holy grail of salvation. I wonder what other edicts deserve such cold, hard knocks in life? Drugs? Bad luck? Riding a bike sans helmet? If you choose/deny "X", you get what's coming to you?

The ACA is too new to be the shibboleth some are proclaiming it to be.

 

Lifelong Dem

(344 posts)
9. Since it's a lot less than cobra...
Thu Oct 31, 2013, 02:35 AM
Oct 2013

Lousy framing. If you're 26 or older and your health insurance is about to double because you're not insured through your job, but this insurance is less than half of what you would pay for cobra, what would you do?

GreenPartyVoter

(72,381 posts)
14. Being Yahoo, it makes perfect sense to frame it that way. They've been sliding
Thu Oct 31, 2013, 07:10 AM
Oct 2013

further and further into the RW realm for a while now.

DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
11. simply this
Thu Oct 31, 2013, 04:24 AM
Oct 2013

a bunch of people think "that'll never happen to a good person like me."

Famous last words, and the graveyards are full of people who thought they were immortal in their 20's.

Nuclear Unicorn

(19,497 posts)
18. Most younger adults don't want massive amounts of expensive (to them) coverage.
Thu Oct 31, 2013, 07:44 AM
Oct 2013

And statistically speaking they're safe with just catastrophic coverage. The ACA admits as much because it relies on them to pay premiums for services they overwhelmingly won't utilize so more money will be in the pool for the older and/or sicker members.

The penalty being as low as it is in comparison to substantially higher insurance costs acts as an incentive to effectively become a tax protester. Except now insurance companies won't even collect for catastrophic plans and the (very little ) amount collected from the penalty will go to the IRS. The loss of revenue will be shifted to current policy holders...which will push more people out of the market. It could become a death spiral for insurance and the GOP will be waiting with their ad campaign to exploit it.

 

Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)
12. Anyone who's insurance cost will double is making far more than most 26 year olds.
Thu Oct 31, 2013, 06:47 AM
Oct 2013

It is a crap poll.

Maybe:, "If you are unmarried with no children making over $50,000.00 a year and your health insurance cost is about to double...."


Nuclear Unicorn

(19,497 posts)
19. It more a question of
Thu Oct 31, 2013, 07:52 AM
Oct 2013

What are my odds of getting sick vs. the cost of a policy with or without a subsidy vs. the cost of the.tax penalty. Is it gambling? Yeah, but Las Vegas makes billions every year offering substantially crappier odds. People will take the gamble and the policy holders will have to make up the difference.

Puzzledtraveller

(5,937 posts)
21. ACA cannot change behavior
Thu Oct 31, 2013, 08:51 AM
Oct 2013

and that is the real problem. It may encourage some people to finally take action for themselves and get covered but I honestly believe a lot of people just cannot be bothered.

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