the Black Woman was Shot in the BACK of her Head ?

[JI7]

Renisha McBride the 19 year old who had a car accident and whose phone was not working so she went to get help . does anyone have info on this ?

from the article

"Family members say that McBride had gone to the home after her cell phone died following a car accident. They say McBride was shot in the back of the head when she turned to leave."

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-57611296-504083/renisha-mcbride-detroit-woman-shot-to-death-while-seeking-help-after-a-car-accident-family-says/

[AnotherMcIntosh]

1. In Michigan, it is not self-defense to shoot a non-threatening person in the back of the head

even if they are an unwelcomed vistor on a porch or the other side of a exterior door.

"780.972 Use of deadly force by individual not engaged in commission of crime; conditions.

"Sec. 2.

&quot 1) An individual who has not or is not engaged in the commission of a crime at the time he or she uses deadly force may use deadly force against another individual anywhere he or she has the legal right to be with no duty to retreat if either of the following applies:

&quot a) The individual honestly and reasonably believes that the use of deadly force is necessary to prevent the imminent death of or imminent great bodily harm to himself or herself or to another individual.

&quot b) The individual honestly and reasonably believes that the use of deadly force is necessary to prevent the imminent sexual assault of himself or herself or of another individual.

&quot 2) An individual who has not or is not engaged in the commission of a crime at the time he or she uses force other than deadly force may use force other than deadly force against another individual anywhere he or she has the legal right to be with no duty to retreat if he or she honestly and reasonably believes that the use of that force is necessary to defend himself or herself or another individual from the imminent unlawful use of force by another individual."

http://www.legislature.mi.gov/(S(kymjvl3cypoc4f45c3lr21ep))/mileg.aspx?page=getObject&objectName=mcl-780-972

[JI7]

2. so why has no arrest been made ? why do they only say htey are considering

charging the shooter ?

[kcr]

4. Seriously. I really hope they make an arrest soon. I'll feel better then.

It will be a travesty if they get away with it.

[AnotherMcIntosh]

5. Are we sure that no arrest has been made at this time?

[JI7]

7. last i remember , maybe something changed in the last few hours ?

[AnotherMcIntosh]

11. The source document is an old one which was simply republished.

Here's a later story:

Police Seek Charges in Shooting of 19-Year-Old Detroit Woman
http://nation.time.com/2013/11/06/police-seek-charges-in-shooting-of-19-year-old-detroit-woman/

[HereSince1628]

10. Do you suppose that hinges on "honestly", "reasonably", or "AND" surely it can't be

on something as unchallengeable as "believes".

[AnotherMcIntosh]

12. No. The phrase "honestly and reasonably" is a limitation on a self-serving use "believes".

[Cali_Democrat]

3. Why hasn't this asshole been arrested yet?

[AnotherMcIntosh]

6. How do we know that he hasn't been AT THIS TIME?

[Cali_Democrat]

8. Because an arrest is public information

assuming he's an adult.

[AnotherMcIntosh]

9. Not all arrests are. Of course, if someone wants to give him a call, ...

[K.O. Stradivarius]

13. "Shot in the BACK of the head" is what the family members claim.

What does the medical examiner claim?

[AnotherMcIntosh]

14. "Shot in the BACK of the head."

Google can be your friend.
http://rt.com/usa/detroit-woman-killed-seeking-help-337/

[K.O. Stradivarius]

16. Yes, it can be.

"Google can be your friend".

Serwatowski also said the 19-year-old McBride was not shot in the back of the head, as her family has stated. The family said she had gone to the house seeking help after being involved in a car accident several blocks away.

“This girl was not shot in the back of the head while leaving the porch,” Serwatowski said “I don’t know where the family is getting this. She was shot in the front of the face, near the mouth

Bernita Spinks, an aunt of the woman killed, told the Free Press she’s going to view her niece’s body today at a funeral home in Detroit.

“I’m tired,” she said.

Asked about whether her niece was shot in the back of her head, she said: “I don’t know. I really don’t know.”

http://www.freep.com/article/20131107/NEWS05/311070119/Renisha-McBride-shot-in-face-not-back-of-head-Dearborn-Heights


I'm in no way defending what happened, but what might seem like a minor point to some (shot in the back of the head or shot in the face), will play an important role in deciding if charges are filed (and subsequent trial).

[AnotherMcIntosh]

17. "Dearborn Heights police ... asked the ... Prosecutor’s Office to file charges against the shooter."

http://rt.com/usa/detroit-woman-killed-seeking-help-337/

[noiretextatique]

18. Police initially told McBride’s family her body was “dumped” and found near the house she approached

Police have since changed their account of events, saying McBride died on the resident’s front porch, according to Fox 2 in Detroit. Police added she was supposedly believed to have been an intruder and shot in self-defense.

that's interesting...

[noiretextatique]

15. same thing

and of course, we know the police and medical examiners are always professional and unbaised from the Trayvon Martin case.

[Kennah]

19. By saying the shotgun went off accidentally, the shooter is effectively confessing to manslaughter

Police are disputing that she was shot in the back of the head, but that doesn't appear to be all the relevant at this point.

One just gets numb to all these tragedies wondering what if anything will change.

[JI7]

20. true, there was no justification for shooting her anywhere

[Sheldon Cooper]

21. Who shoots someone in the face, with a shotgun?

What kind of manly man aims a shotgun at a woman's face and pulls the trigger?