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eridani

(51,907 posts)
Thu Nov 28, 2013, 03:39 PM Nov 2013

Solving Kennedy's Murder: A Modest Proposal for Progress

http://readersupportednews.org/opinion2/277-75/20637-solving-kennedys-murder-a-modest-proposal-for-progress

There is no doubt that any bullet fragments remaining in Connally's body represent highly relevant forensic evidence that has been denied to all investigators for half a century. There is no way to know what that evidence would show, but it's possible it could provide ballistic proof of a second shooter. At a minimum there are numerous bullet fragments in Connally. One unconfirmed (and unlikely) report has it that Connally's body contains bullet fragments estimated to weigh more than the remains of the three bullets already in evidence. There has long been circumstantial evidence that Connally was hit by bullets shot from two different guns.

In Connally's obituary, the L.A. Times reported erroneously that "Connally always went along with the Warren Commission finding that Lee Harvey Oswald was the assassin, working alone." While that may be technically correct - that Connally "went along" with the official story - it evades the reality that Connally consistently said he heard the first shot and was hit by the second. If Connally's clear recollection is correct, then the so-called "Magic Bullet Theory" falls apart and the Warren Commission is left with no basis for concluding that Oswald was the only shooter.

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As the old saying has it, "you can't take it with you." But in this case, Connally has taken it with him, and what it is, perhaps, is evidence that might resolve one of the more vexing mysteries in American history. The Connally family's response in 1993, while understandable in human terms, also raises ambiguities about the evidence. The family's statement asserts that the fragments in Connally "were from one of the two bullets that hit the President." But that's not good for the official story, which holds together only if the first shot hitting Kennedy also hit Connally. The family offered no evidence in support of its statement.

The questions about the bullet fragments in Connally's body are a mystery for only one reason: investigators have had no access to them. We know where the evidence is, we know how to secure it, we know its potential to solve a mystery that the nation needs solved. It's long past time for some responsible authority to act in the public interest.
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Solving Kennedy's Murder: A Modest Proposal for Progress (Original Post) eridani Nov 2013 OP
I wasn't aware that we were in agreement that something needed solving.... brooklynite Nov 2013 #1
Were you the only one the OP was posting to? former9thward Nov 2013 #4
F.B.I. Backs Plan to Remove Connally Bullet Fragments (NYT | 18 June 1993) struggle4progress Nov 2013 #2
Fishing in a long dead body alcibiades_mystery Nov 2013 #3
Exhuming "long dead body" happens all the time in crime investigations. former9thward Nov 2013 #6
It is a good idea. former9thward Nov 2013 #5
It's solved. Spider Jerusalem Nov 2013 #7
Uh oh. I bet you'll claim next that no aliens landed at Roswell or that the Trilateral Commission struggle4progress Nov 2013 #8

struggle4progress

(118,320 posts)
2. F.B.I. Backs Plan to Remove Connally Bullet Fragments (NYT | 18 June 1993)
Thu Nov 28, 2013, 04:12 PM
Nov 2013

By DAVID JOHNSTON
The F.B.I. today endorsed the idea of removing bullet fragments from John B. Connally, the former Texas Governor who died Tuesday ... Mr. Connally, who was buried today at a state cemetery near Austin, Tex., was wounded .. while riding with Kennedy in a Dallas motorcade ... Officials of the Federal Bureau of Investigation here and in Dallas said they favored exhuming the body and trying to recover the fragments if the Connally family consented ... <A> House panel found in 1978 that fragments taken from Mr. Connally's wrist at Parkland hospital in 1963 matched the bullet .. believed to have dropped out of Governor's thigh ...
http://www.nytimes.com/1993/06/18/us/fbi-backs-plan-to-remove-connally-bullet-fragments.html

Family Bars Exhuming of Connally
By SAM HOWE VERHOVEK
Published: June 19, 1993
The family of .. John B. Connally today .. rejected requests .. that his body be exhumed in a .. search for evidence about the assassination of .. Kennedy ... Mr. Connally's family said through a spokesman today that most, and probably all, bullet fragments that had lodged in him were removed soon after he was shot and .. clearly showed .. that they were from one of the two bullets that hit the President. "Beyond that," .. Mr. Connally had been available for 30 years .. "for any legitimate research request," and "in all that time no such request has been made by any responsible authority." The statement said the family would "resist vigorously any efforts to disturb the body of John Connally" ... Mr. Connally often said he believed that he and the President had been hit by separate bullets. But he rejected the notion that anybody other than Oswald had fired them.
http://www.nytimes.com/1993/06/19/us/family-bars-exhuming-of-connally.html

former9thward

(32,064 posts)
6. Exhuming "long dead body" happens all the time in crime investigations.
Thu Nov 28, 2013, 04:39 PM
Nov 2013

Are you opposed to the principle? Or just in this case?

 

Spider Jerusalem

(21,786 posts)
7. It's solved.
Thu Nov 28, 2013, 04:50 PM
Nov 2013


There is no evidence of any second shooter. The single bullet trajectory not only works but is the only possibilty. We have photos of Kennedy and Connally showing their relative positions in the car, from more than one angle. There have been detailed, computer-modelled reconstructions of those relative positions and of the trajectory of a bullet entering Kennedy's back, where it did, and exiting his throat, where it did, and the bullet path goes on to strike Connally, in the right back near the armpit...where it, in fact, did. The bullet wound on Connally's back was ovoid, not round, which means the bullet was tumbling (as a Carcano bullet in fact does after having passed through soft tissue...such as Kennedy's body...and exiting). See this testimony before the HSCA:

Dr. PETTY. Yes, sir, I believe that they were struck by the same bullet and I have so previously stated in the preliminary report of the panel.

Mr. PREYER. Would you summarize briefly your reasons why you believe this to be the case?

Dr. PETTY. Yes, sir, I will be very glad to, Mr. Preyer. I think it is necessary at this point to sum up, in a sense, the flight of the bullet and its effect on those it struck. The bullet that struck the late President in the upper right back area and then went on to penetrate the soft structures of the neck and to exit in the front of the neck was, as has been indicated already, traveling in a somewhat upward direction anatomically speaking.

Anatomists many years ago decided--the better to understand each other--to place a body in a specific position and to relate all of the descriptions of the landmarks of the body to the body in that position. That position actually is a person standing erect facing forward with both palms turned forward. This is the anatomic position and in tracing the in-shoot wound on the back of the late President and connecting it with a more-or-less straight line with the out-shoot wound on the front of the neck, the bullet will have followed a slightly upward direction. But the President was not upright at the time he was shot, he was certainly not in the anatomic position, and this explains, I believe, the objection that Dr. Wecht had and his argument that he could not understand how the bullet pursued a downward track from where it was discharged, then an upward track in the President and then a downward track into Mr. Connally.

A second point that must be mentioned: The bullet that penetrated the back of the President exited the front, struck no bone. If it did strike any bone, the bone that it struck was fragile and certainly not markedly disrupted. It did not go through his spinal column. It did not go through bone that was solid and hard and offered great resistance to passage. In effect; it went through several inches of very soft tissue.

There is no evidence on the X-rays that the bullet broke up in passing from the back to the front. There was no deformity, in my opinion, of the bullet as it went through the President.

Now, the second object that this single bullet struck was Mr. Connally sitting somewhere in front of the President, and this is another point that Dr. Wecht has brought up repeatedly, and that is that there was no way to join by means of a straight line the bullet existing from the President and striking the Governor. Indeed, there was one diagram yesterday that was showing the bullet making more-or-less right angle turns, which I am certain did not happen. As a matter of fact, I would suggest that from looking at the films taken of the actual assassination that the apparent relative positions of the President and the Governor are somewhat misleading, that is, that one cannot determine by looking at a flat two dimensional view of one side of the limousine and the contained individuals precisely what relationship they had one to another.

Next, the bullet in striking Mr. Connally did not penetrate the chest in the usual sense of the word. The bullet did indeed enter the back and side of the chest near the armpit, and it did follow the course of the rib on its lateral or outer aspect, and it did indeed exit beneath the right nipple, but there is no evidence that that bullet actually penetrated the rib. Indeed, one of the surgeons who cared for the Governor, Dr. Shaw, stated to me that the bullet did not penetrate the lung but that the rib was shattered, and it is my opinion that this bullet in slapping against the rib shattered it in a place that the rib is quite vulnerable, and then proceeded to follow rather closely the slope of the rib and then finally to exit in the front of the chest.

The X-rays fail to show any evidence of particles of metal in the chest. Therefore, in my opinion, the bullet was not significantly deformed during its passage in the chest of the Governor.

Next, The bullet did indeed enter the wrist, and although the reports are somewhat difficult to understand, it apparently entered more on the back of the wrist and then exited more on the front of the wrist, and again as in the chest wound, this was a tangentially placed shot which shattered the bone--there is no question of that--it shattered and caused a comminuted fracture of the radius, and then went on to exit.

Here for the first time, fragments of bullet substance are found, and it is here, in my opinion, that the bullet first significantly deformed.

Then having exhausted itself, and at a very low velocity, it continued on to bounce in and out of the thigh of the Governor.

Now, let me recapitulate this. The bullet penetrated one individual without deformity, leaving none of its metal behind. In the second person it penetrated the chest, slapping in a tangential manner against the rib, fracturing the rib, and damaging incidentally the underlying lung, because the rib was thrown against the lung, and then went on again without leaving any of its substance so as to enter the wrist where it finally left off a portion of it substance, not much, but some.

There is nothing here that is unusual or spectacular or unexpected. This is the behavior of a full metal jacketed bullet, a bullet covered in all areas except the base by means of the firm, hard, tough, not easy to deform jacket.

http://jfkassassination.net/russ/jfkinfo/petty.htm


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struggle4progress

(118,320 posts)
8. Uh oh. I bet you'll claim next that no aliens landed at Roswell or that the Trilateral Commission
Thu Nov 28, 2013, 07:56 PM
Nov 2013

really wasn't spreading satanism among US daycare workers in the late 80s and early 90s

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