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ashling

(25,771 posts)
Sun Jan 12, 2014, 04:28 PM Jan 2014

Fox’s Brit Hume shocks female panelist: ‘Feminized atmosphere’ made Christie a ‘bully’

During a panel discussion on the Fox News show Media Buzz, host Howard Kurtz asked if Christie’s “bully image” was hurting him after his administration was accused for closing part of the busiest bridge in the world to hurt his political opponents.

“I have to say that in this sort of feminized atmosphere in which we exist today, guys who are masculine and muscular like that in their private conduct and are kind of old-fashioned tough guys run some risks,” Hume opined.


“Feminized!” Fox News contributor Lauren Ashburn gasped.

“Atmosphere,” Hume nodded. “By which I mean that men today have learned the lesson the hard way that if you act like kind of an old-fashioned guy’s guy, you’re in constant danger of slipping out and saying something that’s going to get you in trouble and make you look like a sexist or make you look like you seem thuggish or whatever. That’s the atmosphere in which we operate.”





http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/01/12/foxs-brit-hume-shocks-female-panelist-feminized-atmosphere-made-christie-a-bully/

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Brits head is so far up his ass








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Fox’s Brit Hume shocks female panelist: ‘Feminized atmosphere’ made Christie a ‘bully’ (Original Post) ashling Jan 2014 OP
OMFG! Poor poor sad Chris Christie.. Cha Jan 2014 #1
Since when is closing a bridge "private conduct"? surrealAmerican Jan 2014 #2
Unfuggenbelievable. lpbk2713 Jan 2014 #3
Does Brit Hume troll Jezebel, I wonder? Matariki Jan 2014 #4
Thanks for that. I really liked this part of the Jezebel piece. redqueen Jan 2014 #12
Brilliant!! Does she nail it, or what? loudsue Jan 2014 #15
Yes, that bit is brutally honest. closeupready Jan 2014 #45
That is a fabulous article. Thanks for posting it Number23 Jan 2014 #23
Wow, great articles. Jamastiene Jan 2014 #33
Excellent post. JDPriestly Jan 2014 #49
since when is christie "muscular?" FatBuddy Jan 2014 #5
Amen to that. I also wouldn't call him masculine. Bullying is not being manly, the exact opposite.nt okaawhatever Jan 2014 #14
That word jumped out at me too . . . fleur-de-lisa Jan 2014 #17
I've been hoping to read anasv Jan 2014 #36
True, but on the other hand, if Christie were thin or even of average weight, JDPriestly Jan 2014 #50
I wonder what his DU name is? LeftyMom Jan 2014 #6
^^^^ Squinch Jan 2014 #21
He's right Politicalboi Jan 2014 #7
What does the Faux say? LadyHawkAZ Jan 2014 #8
lol! Matariki Jan 2014 #26
"[I]f you act like kind of an old-fashioned guy’s guy, . . . LumosMaxima Jan 2014 #9
Unfortunately, faux news listeners aren't really critical thinkers, so they won't come away loudsue Jan 2014 #19
brit thinks evil women made him do it...i suspected that all along spanone Jan 2014 #10
Yeah, Christie should definitely keep that guy's guy act for when he's with the guys. KitSileya Jan 2014 #11
This is really over the top. We have to call and complain about this....loudly. loudsue Jan 2014 #13
Oh, lawdie lawd, only a pompous, insecure little weenbag would say something like that. Zorra Jan 2014 #16
SIMPERING, pompous, insecure, little weenbag FatBuddy Jan 2014 #18
Thankfully, the "Feminized Atmosphere" didn't cause Brit to look like an idiot. Tierra_y_Libertad Jan 2014 #20
Just thought I would throw this out there ashling Jan 2014 #46
Wow. "Christie shuts down the bridge. It's the feminists fault." What a moron. Squinch Jan 2014 #22
Didn't Dubya once tell Brit Hume -- on the air -- that he "had a beautiful face"? whathehell Jan 2014 #24
sounds like something Brit Hume would say in one of his more "intellectual" moments Douglas Carpenter Jan 2014 #25
I find it laughable whenever rich daddy's boys in $5k suits talk about masculinity. Marr Jan 2014 #27
Fox boys- El Shaman Jan 2014 #28
so I guess according to Brit killing someone is OK weissmam Jan 2014 #29
Don't get me started MrScorpio Jan 2014 #30
Hey Brit bearssoapbox Jan 2014 #31
What the fu....??? progressoid Jan 2014 #32
So, he was just being normal... AgingAmerican Jan 2014 #34
Anything Dirty Socialist Jan 2014 #35
You hear that, Bridget Kelley? You're about to be served up as the fall guy! rocktivity Jan 2014 #37
Fox's Brit Hume has the second-ugliest rug in the repuke party KamaAina Jan 2014 #38
Brit Hume wouldn't know what a "Old Fashioned Tough Guy" was SomethingFishy Jan 2014 #39
So it's not really CC's fault he's a complete asshole Major Nikon Jan 2014 #40
'An old fashioned guys' guy?' MineralMan Jan 2014 #41
Muscular? He has lotS of flabby "muscles" Helen Borg Jan 2014 #42
And the crazy train keeps chugging along. deutsey Jan 2014 #43
That ripping sound you hear VA_Jill Jan 2014 #44
Fuck you, Brit Hume shenmue Jan 2014 #47
Brit: you not only "seem thuggish or BlueMTexpat Jan 2014 #48
Brit Hume is a chicken hawk. Kingofalldems Jan 2014 #51
Chicken Shit! ashling Jan 2014 #53
What female would want him as lover or husband? HockeyMom Jan 2014 #52
Faux Nooz. Nuff said. blkmusclmachine Jan 2014 #54
"Muscular" would be the last word I'd use to describe Christie. Vashta Nerada Jan 2014 #55

Matariki

(18,775 posts)
4. Does Brit Hume troll Jezebel, I wonder?
Sun Jan 12, 2014, 04:40 PM
Jan 2014

It's like he read this recent article, but took something different away from it: http://jezebel.com/men-killed-masculinity-all-by-their-big-strong-selves-1498667600?utm_campaign=socialflow_jezebel_facebook&utm_source=jezebel_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow

Most likely he reads Forbes though - which the Jezebel article is based on: http://www.forbes.com/sites/realspin/2014/01/10/the-american-economy-not-feminism-is-whats-ruining-masculinity/

Via Forbes, libertarian thinker and blogger Rachel Burger makes the compelling argument that the reason boys have fallen behind girls at almost every level of education, and the reason that young childless urban women with college degrees outearn their male counterparts, and the reason that MEN ARE ENDING isn't because big mean feminists used all the power they stole from men in the 1970's to hairy armpit and henpeck them into fey submission. It's because we live in a capitalist society, and the capitalist economy that men of the twentieth century built and profited from also profited from shipping jobs that require traditionally "masculine" qualities overseas. She writes,

...feminists aren't to blame for this economic shift. After all, it was men who invented the Internet, who created and sold mass-produced computers, who shipped jobs overseas and who even fashioned social media. To blame women for the change in the male labor market is to feign ignorance of the realities of history. And in the West's new creative economy, physical labor is, quite simply, less valuable.

Like most wars, Suzanne Venker/James Taranto/ Camile Paglia/Christina Hoff Summers' WAR ON MEN was fought mostly by.... men. Specifically, post World War II men. Another reason to hate your parents, Generations X and Y, if you see the dearth of jobs requiring upper body strength as a bad thing.

As Burger points out, jobs available to American workers now are more likely to place a premium on compromise, communication, networking, and other skills women and girls are socialized to value more than men and boys. If parents want to groom men to succeed in a communication and service-based economy, argues Burger, then yeah they're going to have to socialize them to act more like "socially intelligent" girls. Because otherwise they'll get their wall-punching asses fired. You can't golf your way up the corporate ladder anymore.

redqueen

(115,103 posts)
12. Thanks for that. I really liked this part of the Jezebel piece.
Sun Jan 12, 2014, 05:05 PM
Jan 2014
Burger's piece adopts a bit of a *shrug* get used to it! tone, which I suppose applies to the changing nature of high-paying, corporate jobs that pay a living wage, but seems a little callous when applied to jobs on the lower end of the economic spectrum; the high paying, high skilled manual labor jobs that captains of industry went ahead and outsourced are being replaced by jobs in the service and health care industry that pay a hell of a lot less, pushing workers with lower levels of education even further down the economic ladder and opening up a precipitous gap between rich and poor. From this perspective, it makes more sense to call this aspect of the economic "war on men" what it actually is: a war on the working poor.

And it's interesting to consider the implications of Burger's argument as it relates to conservative nostalgia for the swaggering cowboy as embodied in such silly struggles as the fight against anti-bullying rules. If the economy has evolved into one that rewards "girly" qualities like social intelligence and collaboration, then conservatives who insist on making little cowboys out of their sons are literally setting them up to fail. And then get really angry about it.

Number23

(24,544 posts)
23. That is a fabulous article. Thanks for posting it
Sun Jan 12, 2014, 06:09 PM
Jan 2014
If parents want to groom men to succeed in a communication and service-based economy, argues Burger, then yeah they're going to have to socialize them to act more like "socially intelligent" girls. Because otherwise they'll get their wall-punching asses fired. You can't golf your way up the corporate ladder anymore.

I need to send this to my husband.

Jamastiene

(38,187 posts)
33. Wow, great articles.
Sun Jan 12, 2014, 07:46 PM
Jan 2014

I especially like the fact that the Forbes article had a phrase in it that I have never heard before; woman up. We have heard "man up" forever. But, that is the first time I have ever heard "woman up."

Honestly, it is nice that people are recognizing that women have had to fight and work our way to any kind of success in this world. Feminism and the fight for equal rights could only take us so far. The rest was up to us and an awful lot of women are still struggling.

Of course, in this post manufacturing, post physical labor economy, most people, regardless of gender, are struggling.

fleur-de-lisa

(14,624 posts)
17. That word jumped out at me too . . .
Sun Jan 12, 2014, 05:13 PM
Jan 2014

that's the last adjective I would use to describe Christie.

Though I have to say I hate the "fat shaming" that's been going on in the media. I loathe Christie, but the fat jokes are way over the line.

 

anasv

(225 posts)
36. I've been hoping to read
Mon Jan 13, 2014, 01:28 PM
Jan 2014

that he's lost weight. He had one of those operations, why isn't it working. Not that I am criticizing him for being fat, it's just I enjoy seeing people who've really managed to lose a lot of weight.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
50. True, but on the other hand, if Christie were thin or even of average weight,
Mon Jan 13, 2014, 06:04 PM
Jan 2014

do you think he would hesitate to "fat shame" someone else? I don't think he would.

LumosMaxima

(585 posts)
9. "[I]f you act like kind of an old-fashioned guy’s guy, . . .
Sun Jan 12, 2014, 04:50 PM
Jan 2014

you’re in constant danger of slipping out and saying something that’s going to get you in trouble and make you look like a sexist . . . "

Well, yeah. Because an "old-fashioned guy's guy" IS sexist.

And then the dolt digs the hole deeper by linking "thuggish" behavior to traditional sex roles, which essentially means that a "feminized atmosphere" is necessary to make men behave like civilized human beings.

Not really doing much to make men as a group look good there, Brit.

loudsue

(14,087 posts)
19. Unfortunately, faux news listeners aren't really critical thinkers, so they won't come away
Sun Jan 12, 2014, 05:19 PM
Jan 2014

with the same ideas you're talking about here.

They are a different breed of humanoid.

KitSileya

(4,035 posts)
11. Yeah, Christie should definitely keep that guy's guy act for when he's with the guys.
Sun Jan 12, 2014, 05:00 PM
Jan 2014

And can the inappropriate stuff when he's in mixed company. I learned that here on DU.

 

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
20. Thankfully, the "Feminized Atmosphere" didn't cause Brit to look like an idiot.
Sun Jan 12, 2014, 05:40 PM
Jan 2014

Being, an "old fashioned guy's guy" he managed to do that himself.

ashling

(25,771 posts)
46. Just thought I would throw this out there
Mon Jan 13, 2014, 03:14 PM
Jan 2014

"I'm going to tell the men in the room something that they probably don't know. Feminists are your best friends. We are the only group that really believes in your humanity. The feminists are the only group that believes that you are not born rapists, you are not born johns, you are not born pimps or batterers. In fact we believe you are born with the full human capacity that women are born with. And we believe, unlike the pornographers, that you are not life support systems for erect penises."

~ Gail Dines

[follow this link to find a short video, which explores popular misconceptions about feminists: http://www.thesociologicalcinema.com/1/post/2010/12/feminism-survey-men-on-the-street.html]

whathehell

(29,067 posts)
24. Didn't Dubya once tell Brit Hume -- on the air -- that he "had a beautiful face"?
Sun Jan 12, 2014, 06:17 PM
Jan 2014

I thought I remembered seeing that somewhere.

 

Marr

(20,317 posts)
27. I find it laughable whenever rich daddy's boys in $5k suits talk about masculinity.
Sun Jan 12, 2014, 06:57 PM
Jan 2014

They have a view of it that's not unlike that of a 15 year old boy.

Being a bully isn't masculine. Being an asshole isn't masculine. Go back to your yacht and your golf, "Brit".

 

AgingAmerican

(12,958 posts)
34. So, he was just being normal...
Sun Jan 12, 2014, 07:49 PM
Jan 2014

...and the rest of the country are feminized wimps, thus they perceive his normalcy as bullying...

Jaysus flaming Christ on a crutch...

rocktivity

(44,576 posts)
37. You hear that, Bridget Kelley? You're about to be served up as the fall guy!
Mon Jan 13, 2014, 02:36 PM
Jan 2014

Last edited Mon Jan 13, 2014, 03:39 PM - Edit history (2)

And Christie doesn't SEEM thuggish, Brit -- he IS thuggish!


rocktivity

P.S. The Eleventh Annual "You Call This NEWS?" Awards have been posted.

SomethingFishy

(4,876 posts)
39. Brit Hume wouldn't know what a "Old Fashioned Tough Guy" was
Mon Jan 13, 2014, 02:42 PM
Jan 2014

if you gave him instructions, a road map, and a giant dick to carry around with him.

Seriously.. I'm supposed to listen to "old fashioned tough guy" advice from a guy with a $300 haircut, a manicure, a face full of makeup and a 3 piece suit?



Nice try Brit.

Oh and BTW it figures that Fox news would mistake being an asshole for being a "tough guy"...

MineralMan

(146,288 posts)
41. 'An old fashioned guys' guy?'
Mon Jan 13, 2014, 02:46 PM
Jan 2014

That sounds like the definition of a word I'm trying to think of....

Ah, I remember the word now: Asshole.

VA_Jill

(9,966 posts)
44. That ripping sound you hear
Mon Jan 13, 2014, 03:02 PM
Jan 2014

is Jack Anderson tearing his hair out in the Great Beyond for having unleashed Brit on the rest of us. I wish he'd come back and whip Brit's ass.

BlueMTexpat

(15,368 posts)
48. Brit: you not only "seem thuggish or
Mon Jan 13, 2014, 05:20 PM
Jan 2014

whatever," you ARE.

Bullying in Christie-style is not at all "kind of like an old-fashioned guy's guy" in my book. The genuine "old-fashioned guy's guys" I know are nothing like him. Or you. And they never have been - except in some sort of weird alternative world fantasy where you project your own thuggishness onto them.

 

HockeyMom

(14,337 posts)
52. What female would want him as lover or husband?
Mon Jan 13, 2014, 06:43 PM
Jan 2014

I am not talking about his physical size either, but just his ATTITUDE. I am a Native New Yorker amd know about NY, NJ Metro Attitude, but this guy goes way beyond that. As a female, he would get MY attitude. Goodbye, Chris.

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