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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsFox’s Brit Hume shocks female panelist: ‘Feminized atmosphere’ made Christie a ‘bully’
I have to say that in this sort of feminized atmosphere in which we exist today, guys who are masculine and muscular like that in their private conduct and are kind of old-fashioned tough guys run some risks, Hume opined.
Feminized! Fox News contributor Lauren Ashburn gasped.
Atmosphere, Hume nodded. By which I mean that men today have learned the lesson the hard way that if you act like kind of an old-fashioned guys guy, youre in constant danger of slipping out and saying something thats going to get you in trouble and make you look like a sexist or make you look like you seem thuggish or whatever. Thats the atmosphere in which we operate.
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/01/12/foxs-brit-hume-shocks-female-panelist-feminized-atmosphere-made-christie-a-bully/
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Brits head is so far up his ass
Cha
(297,188 posts)the women made him a bully according to fox idiot hume.
surrealAmerican
(11,360 posts)How much more public could this "conduct" have been?
lpbk2713
(42,757 posts)I've got to laugh.
This clown is just unfuggenbelievable.
Matariki
(18,775 posts)It's like he read this recent article, but took something different away from it: http://jezebel.com/men-killed-masculinity-all-by-their-big-strong-selves-1498667600?utm_campaign=socialflow_jezebel_facebook&utm_source=jezebel_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow
Most likely he reads Forbes though - which the Jezebel article is based on: http://www.forbes.com/sites/realspin/2014/01/10/the-american-economy-not-feminism-is-whats-ruining-masculinity/
...feminists aren't to blame for this economic shift. After all, it was men who invented the Internet, who created and sold mass-produced computers, who shipped jobs overseas and who even fashioned social media. To blame women for the change in the male labor market is to feign ignorance of the realities of history. And in the West's new creative economy, physical labor is, quite simply, less valuable.
Like most wars, Suzanne Venker/James Taranto/ Camile Paglia/Christina Hoff Summers' WAR ON MEN was fought mostly by.... men. Specifically, post World War II men. Another reason to hate your parents, Generations X and Y, if you see the dearth of jobs requiring upper body strength as a bad thing.
As Burger points out, jobs available to American workers now are more likely to place a premium on compromise, communication, networking, and other skills women and girls are socialized to value more than men and boys. If parents want to groom men to succeed in a communication and service-based economy, argues Burger, then yeah they're going to have to socialize them to act more like "socially intelligent" girls. Because otherwise they'll get their wall-punching asses fired. You can't golf your way up the corporate ladder anymore.
redqueen
(115,103 posts)And it's interesting to consider the implications of Burger's argument as it relates to conservative nostalgia for the swaggering cowboy as embodied in such silly struggles as the fight against anti-bullying rules. If the economy has evolved into one that rewards "girly" qualities like social intelligence and collaboration, then conservatives who insist on making little cowboys out of their sons are literally setting them up to fail. And then get really angry about it.
loudsue
(14,087 posts)I love it!!
closeupready
(29,503 posts)Number23
(24,544 posts)I need to send this to my husband.
Jamastiene
(38,187 posts)I especially like the fact that the Forbes article had a phrase in it that I have never heard before; woman up. We have heard "man up" forever. But, that is the first time I have ever heard "woman up."
Honestly, it is nice that people are recognizing that women have had to fight and work our way to any kind of success in this world. Feminism and the fight for equal rights could only take us so far. The rest was up to us and an awful lot of women are still struggling.
Of course, in this post manufacturing, post physical labor economy, most people, regardless of gender, are struggling.
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)FatBuddy
(376 posts)okaawhatever
(9,461 posts)fleur-de-lisa
(14,624 posts)that's the last adjective I would use to describe Christie.
Though I have to say I hate the "fat shaming" that's been going on in the media. I loathe Christie, but the fat jokes are way over the line.
anasv
(225 posts)that he's lost weight. He had one of those operations, why isn't it working. Not that I am criticizing him for being fat, it's just I enjoy seeing people who've really managed to lose a lot of weight.
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)do you think he would hesitate to "fat shame" someone else? I don't think he would.
LeftyMom
(49,212 posts)Politicalboi
(15,189 posts)So men should STFU.
LadyHawkAZ
(6,199 posts)Derp derp derp derp derp a-derp.
LumosMaxima
(585 posts)youre in constant danger of slipping out and saying something thats going to get you in trouble and make you look like a sexist . . . "
Well, yeah. Because an "old-fashioned guy's guy" IS sexist.
And then the dolt digs the hole deeper by linking "thuggish" behavior to traditional sex roles, which essentially means that a "feminized atmosphere" is necessary to make men behave like civilized human beings.
Not really doing much to make men as a group look good there, Brit.
loudsue
(14,087 posts)with the same ideas you're talking about here.
They are a different breed of humanoid.
spanone
(135,830 posts)KitSileya
(4,035 posts)And can the inappropriate stuff when he's in mixed company. I learned that here on DU.
loudsue
(14,087 posts)What an asshat.
Zorra
(27,670 posts)FatBuddy
(376 posts)Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)Being, an "old fashioned guy's guy" he managed to do that himself.
ashling
(25,771 posts)"I'm going to tell the men in the room something that they probably don't know. Feminists are your best friends. We are the only group that really believes in your humanity. The feminists are the only group that believes that you are not born rapists, you are not born johns, you are not born pimps or batterers. In fact we believe you are born with the full human capacity that women are born with. And we believe, unlike the pornographers, that you are not life support systems for erect penises."
~ Gail Dines
[follow this link to find a short video, which explores popular misconceptions about feminists: http://www.thesociologicalcinema.com/1/post/2010/12/feminism-survey-men-on-the-street.html]
Squinch
(50,949 posts)whathehell
(29,067 posts)I thought I remembered seeing that somewhere.
Douglas Carpenter
(20,226 posts)Marr
(20,317 posts)They have a view of it that's not unlike that of a 15 year old boy.
Being a bully isn't masculine. Being an asshole isn't masculine. Go back to your yacht and your golf, "Brit".
El Shaman
(583 posts)showing their 'dick-headidness !!!
weissmam
(905 posts)MrScorpio
(73,631 posts)It won't be pretty at all.
bearssoapbox
(1,408 posts)progressoid
(49,988 posts)AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)...and the rest of the country are feminized wimps, thus they perceive his normalcy as bullying...
Jaysus flaming Christ on a crutch...
Dirty Socialist
(3,252 posts)To protect the overdog. What a butt kisser.
rocktivity
(44,576 posts)Last edited Mon Jan 13, 2014, 03:39 PM - Edit history (2)
And Christie doesn't SEEM thuggish, Brit -- he IS thuggish!
rocktivity
P.S. The Eleventh Annual "You Call This NEWS?" Awards have been posted.
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)behind only Sen. Rand Paul.
SomethingFishy
(4,876 posts)if you gave him instructions, a road map, and a giant dick to carry around with him.
Seriously.. I'm supposed to listen to "old fashioned tough guy" advice from a guy with a $300 haircut, a manicure, a face full of makeup and a 3 piece suit?
Nice try Brit.
Oh and BTW it figures that Fox news would mistake being an asshole for being a "tough guy"...
Major Nikon
(36,827 posts)Good to know.
MineralMan
(146,288 posts)That sounds like the definition of a word I'm trying to think of....
Ah, I remember the word now: Asshole.
Helen Borg
(3,963 posts)Around his andomen!
deutsey
(20,166 posts)VA_Jill
(9,966 posts)is Jack Anderson tearing his hair out in the Great Beyond for having unleashed Brit on the rest of us. I wish he'd come back and whip Brit's ass.
shenmue
(38,506 posts)Asshole.
BlueMTexpat
(15,368 posts)whatever," you ARE.
Bullying in Christie-style is not at all "kind of like an old-fashioned guy's guy" in my book. The genuine "old-fashioned guy's guys" I know are nothing like him. Or you. And they never have been - except in some sort of weird alternative world fantasy where you project your own thuggishness onto them.
Kingofalldems
(38,454 posts)ashling
(25,771 posts)HockeyMom
(14,337 posts)I am not talking about his physical size either, but just his ATTITUDE. I am a Native New Yorker amd know about NY, NJ Metro Attitude, but this guy goes way beyond that. As a female, he would get MY attitude. Goodbye, Chris.