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alp227

(32,023 posts)
Mon Jan 13, 2014, 04:44 PM Jan 2014

"Octomom" Nadya Suleman Charged With Felony Welfare Fraud

Nadya Suleman, the California mother of 14 children known as “Octomom,” has been charged with welfare fraud for allegedly filing for public assistance payments while failing to report that she earned nearly $30,000 via public appearances and video residuals.

The 38-year-old Suleman has been named in a criminal complaint accusing her of “one count of aid by misrepresentation and two counts of perjury by false application for aid.”

According to Los Angeles prosecutors, Suleman illegally pocketed $16,481 in welfare benefits, including nearly $10,000 in Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP) payments.

full: http://www.thesmokinggun.com/buster/octomom-welfare-fraud-675432

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"Octomom" Nadya Suleman Charged With Felony Welfare Fraud (Original Post) alp227 Jan 2014 OP
Stupid is as stupid does... nt COLGATE4 Jan 2014 #1
what happened to the doctor who helped her have all those kids ? JI7 Jan 2014 #2
that's not illegal leftyohiolib Jan 2014 #4
i'm not talking about legal issues, but one of ethics JI7 Jan 2014 #5
He lost his license. ScreamingMeemie Jan 2014 #7
Fire up the Welfare/Cadillac whines from the all-knowing Right. Shandris Jan 2014 #3
Yeah, and yet, they can't be bothered to look at the AMOUNT kdmorris Jan 2014 #6
They don't. She didn't report 30K of income so she would still be eligible SomethingFishy Jan 2014 #12
That was not the point I was trying to make kdmorris Jan 2014 #20
Everything we need to know about being rich on $16,000 per year... Shandris Jan 2014 #14
Well thanks to people like her they can. SomethingFishy Jan 2014 #8
The children still need to eat, wear clothes, sleep inside, etc REP Jan 2014 #15
Not pegging my outrage meter REP Jan 2014 #9
Agree get the red out Jan 2014 #13
I agree. closeupready Jan 2014 #16
Totally agree. nt laundry_queen Jan 2014 #36
I figured she made a lot more than that from octocelebrity-- snooper2 Jan 2014 #10
Two hours of sleep per night? treestar Jan 2014 #25
What the hell? infoviro Jan 2014 #27
How are the kids doing? (n/t) Retrograde Jan 2014 #11
Pic at: jsr Jan 2014 #17
Awww. I'm sorry, but no matter what you think, those kids are adorable. closeupready Jan 2014 #19
I haven't thought of this woman in ages Control-Z Jan 2014 #24
i don't care about the welfare thing but i'm still turned off by her having all those kids JI7 Jan 2014 #18
If she. Wants to have all those kids that's her business bigdarryl Jan 2014 #21
i didn't say it should be illegal, but especially when people like her and duggars JI7 Jan 2014 #22
Bullshit. It's society's business infoviro Jan 2014 #29
Even when society has to pay for all these kids? LisaL Jan 2014 #35
Not if she expects the tax payers to support her Boudica the Lyoness Jan 2014 #37
This message was self-deleted by its author yeoman6987 Jan 2014 #26
I agree, her case in particular is different from the general cases you hear people crying davidpdx Jan 2014 #33
Not only that, but remember she did it for the SOLE purpose Blue_Tires Jan 2014 #34
She needs to take the factory plastic off the mattresses. madaboutharry Jan 2014 #23
Those poor kids. mama is messed up irisblue Jan 2014 #28
Who paid for her plastic surgery? Glassunion Jan 2014 #30
I hope those kids grow up to do great things. nt goldent Jan 2014 #31
Like their mum did Boudica the Lyoness Jan 2014 #38
wow she never really struck me as a maker of poor choices nt arely staircase Jan 2014 #32

kdmorris

(5,649 posts)
6. Yeah, and yet, they can't be bothered to look at the AMOUNT
Mon Jan 13, 2014, 05:10 PM
Jan 2014

So, this woman has 14 children - so household of 15 people. From the article, that part that hit me in the face:


Investigators allege that Suleman filed for public assistance last January and “failed to disclose that she was also getting checks for personal appearances and residuals from videos.” If convicted of the charges, Suleman could face nearly six months in prison.

According to Los Angeles prosecutors, Suleman illegally pocketed $16,481 in welfare benefits, including nearly $10,000 in Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP) payments.


How the fuck do they think that 15 people are going to "make it rich" on $16,000 a year?????

SomethingFishy

(4,876 posts)
12. They don't. She didn't report 30K of income so she would still be eligible
Mon Jan 13, 2014, 05:16 PM
Jan 2014

for welfare. She left off the 30K from her yearly so she would qualify. The 30K is not all she made, just the money that would put her over the top for qualifying for welfare.

kdmorris

(5,649 posts)
20. That was not the point I was trying to make
Mon Jan 13, 2014, 05:38 PM
Jan 2014

I realize that, FOR HER, she actually made more than $45,000.

BUT, most of the right wing idiots out there say that people (mostly women) get rich by living on welfare and having babies. That amount of money is what she collected while on welfare.

For the average person out there that is living JUST on welfare and food stamps, there is no way to get rich living off that pittance. The whole "welfare queen" myth came from those same sources that explain that people should not be allowed to get welfare because it encourages them to not get jobs and to 'get rich and drive Cadillacs" by collecting welfare and food stamps.

My point was that there is no way for anyone to live off of that, much less get rich.



 

Shandris

(3,447 posts)
14. Everything we need to know about being rich on $16,000 per year...
Mon Jan 13, 2014, 05:17 PM
Jan 2014

...we learned from Dick Cheney -- the first man to inform me that I was, in fact, a lucky ducky with my staggering $12,000/yr income. I didn't have to know the -horrors- of losing 7% of my total income to taxes that I, as a lucky ducky, don't have to pay. I'll never know just how -hard- it is to have 2.2 million dollars left over after a veritable gutting at the hands of the evil tax man. Lucky me!



And not only that, but taking away the mother of these children for something that could be rectified with a friggin' FINE (if that) is unconscionable.

SomethingFishy

(4,876 posts)
8. Well thanks to people like her they can.
Mon Jan 13, 2014, 05:11 PM
Jan 2014

She gets no sympathy from me. There is a thing called birth control and if you have 6 kids and can't afford them, bringing another 8 into the world is irresponsible at best, In her case I believe she did it to be famous, not because she had some void that her original six kids couldn't fill.

REP

(21,691 posts)
15. The children still need to eat, wear clothes, sleep inside, etc
Mon Jan 13, 2014, 05:19 PM
Jan 2014

I disagree with this woman's decisions probably more than you do, but her children shouldn't suffer because she's a moron. $46K doesn't go far for a family of four - for a family of 14 children, that's just barely scraping by.

Helping keep her kids fed and healthy is cheaper to us as a society.

REP

(21,691 posts)
9. Not pegging my outrage meter
Mon Jan 13, 2014, 05:13 PM
Jan 2014

As much as I think she has made some terrible decisions, the welfare money plus the $30K won't go far in feeding, clothing and all the other things 14 children need. If she's using that money to provide care for her children, I have zero outrage. Her children don't need to suffer because she's a moron, and if public money is what it takes, so be it. Better than another fighter plane the military doesn't even want.

 

snooper2

(30,151 posts)
10. I figured she made a lot more than that from octocelebrity--
Mon Jan 13, 2014, 05:14 PM
Jan 2014

Here she is showing her new house last year-






Oprah still tries to milk her LOL... I love how the lady says "Go to Church and PRAY like you never had before" Like that would do something



 

infoviro

(59 posts)
27. What the hell?
Mon Jan 13, 2014, 07:35 PM
Jan 2014

Why do some of her kids look Irish while some look Hispanic and yet others look Asian?

Control-Z

(15,682 posts)
24. I haven't thought of this woman in ages
Mon Jan 13, 2014, 07:00 PM
Jan 2014

so I looked around a little and ran into this pic of Jonah, one of the octuplets, who was born with cleft lip. I read that Nadya waited longer than she should have, but the surgery went beautifully once finally performed.

Look at this beautiful little boy! Isn't he gorgeous (before and after)?

JI7

(89,249 posts)
18. i don't care about the welfare thing but i'm still turned off by her having all those kids
Mon Jan 13, 2014, 05:35 PM
Jan 2014

i feel the same way about anyone regardless of how much money they have.

unless they are adopting it just starts to seem selfish to me. and usually the older kids have to end up doing a lot of caring for the kids. more than the usual amount that older kids do in smaller families.

the duggars are another case where even after the mother had trouble with later pregnancies and the last baby born had serious health complications they are still talking about having more kids.

in her case it was strange. she almost seemed to have the mentality of a teenager wanting to have a lot of babies because they are cute when they are born. and not really fully getting that those babies grow up and they will be with you for at least the next 18 years. and that means not being able to do a lot of other things that young adults do as they get freedom .

JI7

(89,249 posts)
22. i didn't say it should be illegal, but especially when people like her and duggars
Mon Jan 13, 2014, 05:45 PM
Jan 2014

go public and even make money based on having a lot of kids people are going to comment . including disagree with what they do.

Response to JI7 (Reply #18)

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
33. I agree, her case in particular is different from the general cases you hear people crying
Mon Jan 13, 2014, 08:51 PM
Jan 2014

about welfare. She and her doctor essentially conspired to make sure she'd have multiple children, despite she already had a few. Both acted unethically and yes one has to wonder about her state of mind. She became essentially a baby incubator by caring that many children at the same time.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
34. Not only that, but remember she did it for the SOLE purpose
Mon Jan 13, 2014, 09:05 PM
Jan 2014

of hitching a ride on that reality TV gravy train (I'm also betting one of the main reasons the doctor even went along is because he had some celebrity dreams, too)...How cynical, fame-hungry and outright insane does someone have to be to follow through on this??

madaboutharry

(40,211 posts)
23. She needs to take the factory plastic off the mattresses.
Mon Jan 13, 2014, 06:40 PM
Jan 2014

She can go to Target or Bed Bath and Beyond and buy plastic sheets that are intended to be slept on. It is not healthy for the kids because that type of plastic doesn't "breathe," also it can rip and pose a suffocation hazard.

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