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Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
Fri Jan 17, 2014, 04:12 PM Jan 2014

Refrigerator discovered to be sending out spam emails


A fridge has been discovered sending out spam after a web attack managed to compromise smart gadgets. The fridge was one of more than 100,000 devices used to take part in the spam campaign.

Uncovered by security firm Proofpoint the attack compromised computers, home routers, media PCs and smart TV sets. The attack is believed to be one of the first to exploit the lax security on devices that are part of the "internet of things".

The spam attack took place between 23 December 2013 and 6 January this year, said Proofpoint in a statement. In total, it said, about 750,000 messages were sent as part of the junk mail campaign. The emails were routed through the compromised gadgets.

About 25% of the messages seen by Proofpoint researchers did not pass through laptops, desktops or smartphones, it said. Instead, the malware managed to get itself installed on other smart devices such as kitchen appliances, the home media systems on which people store copied DVDs and web-connected televisions.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-25780908



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Refrigerator discovered to be sending out spam emails (Original Post) Nye Bevan Jan 2014 OP
the 'Internet of Things' Sentath Jan 2014 #1
I talk to my toaster Baclava Jan 2014 #2
Ok, I have to ask. William769 Jan 2014 #4
I don't understand electrical talk Baclava Jan 2014 #20
It is out on dvd now. One of the weirdest kid movies my kid saw. I didn't know uppityperson Jan 2014 #50
the book was written in 1986 - Disch wrote a lot of sci fi, lots of it dark - he was one of my favs Baclava Jan 2014 #61
My small appliance always need encouragment. yourout Jan 2014 #9
Of course. How else are they going to learn? randome Jan 2014 #17
I'm very happy with my 'dumb' appliances!!! elleng Jan 2014 #3
I hear ya! Shandris Jan 2014 #36
My terlet signed me up for like 17 mailing lists. PeaceNikki Jan 2014 #5
Yeah, but it was well-paid for ratting you out. Jackpine Radical Jan 2014 #21
Openned a can of Spam. Of course it is in a refrigerator... PowerToThePeople Jan 2014 #6
Now I have to be afraid of a refrigerator?!?! Wounded Bear Jan 2014 #7
Not surprising the washing machine stopped working then. dipsydoodle Jan 2014 #8
Is this psycho the same actor? Brother Buzz Jan 2014 #16
Yes - Alan Ford dipsydoodle Jan 2014 #19
Yes - Snatch Brother Buzz Jan 2014 #32
I've never seen that dipsydoodle Jan 2014 #35
They caught the culprit but are unsure if charges will be pressed. randome Jan 2014 #10
I'm calling bullshit here. RC Jan 2014 #11
This one runs winodws. 'nuff said. X_Digger Jan 2014 #13
If it does, in fact run Windoze RoccoR5955 Jan 2014 #18
OMG, the Blue Screen of Thaw-- Jackpine Radical Jan 2014 #23
XP Embedded runs in a LOT of kiosks, unfortunately. X_Digger Jan 2014 #28
Yeah, fast for XP RoccoR5955 Jan 2014 #33
XP Embedded is actually quite fast. Boot in 30-40 seconds from CF. X_Digger Jan 2014 #37
Gonna call BS on that. Glassunion Jan 2014 #42
Well, my experience is 6+ years old ;) I'm sure things have gotten faster since then. X_Digger Jan 2014 #43
Solid state has come a long way, but is still a bit expensive. Glassunion Jan 2014 #44
I tried an SSD primary disk a while back, but never got much speed gain. X_Digger Jan 2014 #45
With the SSDs today the R/W is amazing. Glassunion Jan 2014 #51
The compressor can also fail, not just RAM Duer 157099 Jan 2014 #54
Uh, from what I have observed RoccoR5955 Jan 2014 #56
Uhhhhh jeff47 Jan 2014 #15
More than enough. One of the unfortunate side effects of microsoftism is the widespread belief Egalitarian Thug Jan 2014 #26
Some info to perhaps call unbullshit Glassunion Jan 2014 #40
In that case why would anyone want something like that, if they already had a computer? RC Jan 2014 #47
Not everyone has laptops or tablets to take into their kitchen. Glassunion Jan 2014 #49
Wonderful. When everything is connected, everything will send spam. MineralMan Jan 2014 #12
Google just bought an interactive thermostat company. onehandle Jan 2014 #14
Daughter: "Dad, can we turn up the heat?" randome Jan 2014 #22
HAL: I'm sorry, Dave. I'm afraid I can't do that. underpants Jan 2014 #38
How'd you know my name was...never mind. randome Jan 2014 #57
Yeah, my "smart" coffee pot had to be sent back RoccoR5955 Jan 2014 #24
But it's nice, cold SPAM, right? DirkGently Jan 2014 #25
LOL! Egalitarian Thug Jan 2014 #27
Hey, lay off the national dish of Hawaii!!! Shrike47 Jan 2014 #30
One of those appliances that are supposed to interact with the smart phones. haele Jan 2014 #29
I want something that can text RoccoR5955 Jan 2014 #34
Fear not the changes, least they run you over. Glassunion Jan 2014 #46
Although wildly unnecessary, I think it's kind of cool - I'd love to be able petronius Jan 2014 #41
princealbert@inacan.com Warren DeMontague Jan 2014 #31
The water/ice dispenser had two rather odd porn choices underpants Jan 2014 #39
I'd like to operate a coffee machine across the room from the keyboard, etc. Coyotl Jan 2014 #48
reminds me of some movie or TV show I saw a while back dlwickham Jan 2014 #52
IIRC there was a Toshiba TV that sent out a Search and Rescue Satellite distress call. Glassunion Jan 2014 #53
"Help! They watch American Idol every @#$%in' week!" (n/t) klook Jan 2014 #58
send the offending fridge to the cooler dembotoz Jan 2014 #55
"Hey, anybody know how all this Nigerian food got in here?" (n/t) klook Jan 2014 #59
The only Spam in my refrigerator is the canned variety. Beacool Jan 2014 #60
 

randome

(34,845 posts)
17. Of course. How else are they going to learn?
Fri Jan 17, 2014, 04:50 PM
Jan 2014

[hr][font color="blue"][center]All things in moderation, including moderation.[/center][/font][hr]
 

Shandris

(3,447 posts)
36. I hear ya!
Fri Jan 17, 2014, 05:39 PM
Jan 2014

I don't think my toaster needs a Facebook account or to check stock quotes. With that in mind, I think I'll just keep it 'dumb'.

I mean yah, it would be nice to be able to make some hot cocoa on the way home from the store, but...its just not worth all the invasive risk for the convenience of saving four minutes.

dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
19. Yes - Alan Ford
Fri Jan 17, 2014, 04:53 PM
Jan 2014

aka East End Thug in that comedy show. He's a good actor. The link you posted was where he played Brick Top in Snatch.

Brother Buzz

(36,421 posts)
32. Yes - Snatch
Fri Jan 17, 2014, 05:25 PM
Jan 2014

And also I've seen him in Snuff Box.

Thanks for the heads up on The Armando Iannucci Shows . Fun

dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
35. I've never seen that
Fri Jan 17, 2014, 05:39 PM
Jan 2014

in fact I wasn't even aware of it which is odd because I'm UK.

I'll check it out.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
10. They caught the culprit but are unsure if charges will be pressed.
Fri Jan 17, 2014, 04:34 PM
Jan 2014


After all, he's the loneliest repairman in the world and he only wanted to reach out.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]Precision and concision. That's the game.[/center][/font][hr]
 

RC

(25,592 posts)
11. I'm calling bullshit here.
Fri Jan 17, 2014, 04:35 PM
Jan 2014

For one, is there even enough memory to store a spam program in an Internet connected refrigerator? Let alone being able to run a program residing in memory? Web connected kitchen appliances are rather specialized devices, so why have full blown computers in them, which is needed to blast out spam? You can install Microsoft Outlook on your computer? Who knew?

X_Digger

(18,585 posts)
13. This one runs winodws. 'nuff said.
Fri Jan 17, 2014, 04:37 PM
Jan 2014

There's one I saw at Fry's with a BSOD up on it. Not sure if it was XP, XP Embedded, or some variation of win7.

As for how much it requires to send email- opening a socket and sending spam isn't difficult. socket libraries are small; I've seen them as small as 2k of text, pre-compile. Or you could just use the built-in inet.dll and have access to all kinds of services.

 

RoccoR5955

(12,471 posts)
18. If it does, in fact run Windoze
Fri Jan 17, 2014, 04:52 PM
Jan 2014

It probably needs to be restarted each and every day, and has to do updates once a month.
What will the reefer do when Windoze crashes, as it normally does, at least a couple of times a year?

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
23. OMG, the Blue Screen of Thaw--
Fri Jan 17, 2014, 05:03 PM
Jan 2014

There is a sickly green ichor in the bottom of the veggie drawer, the mushrooms have grown fungi of their own, and the beer is warm.

X_Digger

(18,585 posts)
28. XP Embedded runs in a LOT of kiosks, unfortunately.
Fri Jan 17, 2014, 05:17 PM
Jan 2014

Usually they're set up to restart on fault, and have the image on a CF card, so reboots are quite fast.

 

RoccoR5955

(12,471 posts)
33. Yeah, fast for XP
Fri Jan 17, 2014, 05:34 PM
Jan 2014

is ten minutes.
Not too long for your ice cream to defrost, but what happens when the RAM fails, and you get a BSOD?

X_Digger

(18,585 posts)
37. XP Embedded is actually quite fast. Boot in 30-40 seconds from CF.
Fri Jan 17, 2014, 05:43 PM
Jan 2014

Imagine XP without all the crap that microsoft includes with a base install. Only the drivers you need, no extra programs, services, or subsystems that you'll never use (I'm looking at you, IPX).

Glassunion

(10,201 posts)
42. Gonna call BS on that.
Fri Jan 17, 2014, 06:01 PM
Jan 2014

We have 100% solid state XPE boxes that boot in less than 15 seconds. This includes the BIOS post, OS start, log in, and kiosk app start.

Glassunion

(10,201 posts)
44. Solid state has come a long way, but is still a bit expensive.
Fri Jan 17, 2014, 06:22 PM
Jan 2014

You cannot get a reasonably sized drive without spending a fortune. But man they are fast.

We have kiosk PCs with 0 moving parts. No Disk Drives, no fans, nothing. We can run them in very hot and very cold environments without issue. All of this and it runs using less than 1/3 of the electricity of a regular PC.

X_Digger

(18,585 posts)
45. I tried an SSD primary disk a while back, but never got much speed gain.
Fri Jan 17, 2014, 06:26 PM
Jan 2014

Of course this was before SATA-3 or whatever the latest standard is, so I don't take it as representative.

I've also got a fanless atom box that I use for microscopy capture / streaming- quite a nice little box.

Glassunion

(10,201 posts)
51. With the SSDs today the R/W is amazing.
Fri Jan 17, 2014, 06:57 PM
Jan 2014

There was one benchmark test I read about, where they got the latest Apple OS X to boot on a MacBook Pro in 9 seconds using SSD drives.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
15. Uhhhhh
Fri Jan 17, 2014, 04:47 PM
Jan 2014
Let alone being able to run a program residing in memory?

Uh, yeah. The fridge has to run software in order to be "smart".

Web connected kitchen appliances are rather specialized devices, so why have full blown computers in them, which is needed to blast out spam?

You don't need a "full blown" computer to send email. SMTP is very easy, and you're talking about transmitting about 1K of text over and over again.

You don't need a heavy client like Outlook. After all, the fridge won't be displaying or otherwise organizing the email.

Consider this: Computers in the 1960s were sending and receiving email. They had about 1/10th the computing power of a modern calculator.
 

Egalitarian Thug

(12,448 posts)
26. More than enough. One of the unfortunate side effects of microsoftism is the widespread belief
Fri Jan 17, 2014, 05:12 PM
Jan 2014

that computer apps have to be huge, bloated, slow, and stupid.

Glassunion

(10,201 posts)
40. Some info to perhaps call unbullshit
Fri Jan 17, 2014, 05:58 PM
Jan 2014

There is enough memory. Samsung models in particular you can store photo albums, download apps, and even have their own e-mail client built in. Others like Electrolux run on Linux, while others run on Windows. The internet enabled units tend have a decent amount of storage for the user to download apps like Pandora, twitter, etc...

You don't need a full blown computer to blast out spam. Bots can be very small in size, and can flow through spam quite easily. All you need is memory space for the program to run, and a connection to the internet.

Glassunion

(10,201 posts)
49. Not everyone has laptops or tablets to take into their kitchen.
Fri Jan 17, 2014, 06:50 PM
Jan 2014

Growing up, my mom and dad had a small under the counter TV in the kitchen. This is the same concept, but now you can pop on a show from Netflix, or cook right along with a Julia Child video. It would not work in my kitchen as once I'm in my kitchen, in either my prep or cooking areas, I cannot see the front of my fridge.

I no longer have paper recipes. I scanned all of our family's recipes and use my laptop to display them while I'm cooking. Other times, I'll cook right along with a YouTube video. It is handy. The downside, is that I cannot microwave while I have the laptop in the kitchen as it will block it.

The neat thing I can see about a smart fridge, is that you already have a fridge in the kitchen, and if you can add a device without taking up any additional space that would be a plus. Currently the smartest device I have in my kitchen is an old smartphone I use to play Pandora radio. I have a small speaker that I plug it into, then sit it on top of my fridge while I'm cooking. So on a technicality, my fridge has internet radio.

MineralMan

(146,288 posts)
12. Wonderful. When everything is connected, everything will send spam.
Fri Jan 17, 2014, 04:35 PM
Jan 2014

If it's on the Internet, there is spam of it. A new rule.

onehandle

(51,122 posts)
14. Google just bought an interactive thermostat company.
Fri Jan 17, 2014, 04:43 PM
Jan 2014

The age of devices delivering spam is about to go crazy.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
22. Daughter: "Dad, can we turn up the heat?"
Fri Jan 17, 2014, 05:01 PM
Jan 2014

Thermostat: "You touch me and you'll be in a world of hurt, young man!"

Dad: "Maybe later."
[hr][font color="blue"][center]"If you're bored then you're boring." -Harvey Danger[/center][/font][hr]

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
57. How'd you know my name was...never mind.
Fri Jan 17, 2014, 10:43 PM
Jan 2014

[hr][font color="blue"][center]Treat your body like a machine. Your mind like a castle.[/center][/font][hr]
 

RoccoR5955

(12,471 posts)
24. Yeah, my "smart" coffee pot had to be sent back
Fri Jan 17, 2014, 05:07 PM
Jan 2014

The coffee tasted disgusting. Some sort of meat flavor. Maybe it was spam as well!

haele

(12,649 posts)
29. One of those appliances that are supposed to interact with the smart phones.
Fri Jan 17, 2014, 05:19 PM
Jan 2014

The latest and greatest for the "internet home", where you can supposedly text your oven to begin the meals or text your fridge to monitor and maintain special drawers for items you may want kept "just below frozen", or kept cold during the morning but brought at room temperature by the time you get home. Same with security or environmental control units.

If you can use e-mail or text to it, or wirelessly control it through an app, it can spam. That's just the nature of "smart" gadgets that can also communicate over the 'net.

Haele

 

RoccoR5955

(12,471 posts)
34. I want something that can text
Fri Jan 17, 2014, 05:36 PM
Jan 2014

my bung hole to know when to flush the toilet too.
This is just getting too unreal!
Why are people getting so damn lazy?
They will forget how to do things when this garbage fails.
I see it every day, as a computer support tech/network guy.
The more problems these bozos have, the more they think that they can throw technology at it to make it better.
Never mind that they can't even spell computers, they just want more.

petronius

(26,602 posts)
41. Although wildly unnecessary, I think it's kind of cool - I'd love to be able
Fri Jan 17, 2014, 05:59 PM
Jan 2014

to email my fridge before leaving work:

"Hey fridge, are there any beers left?"
"Hey fridge, is that chicken defrosted yet?"
"Hey fridge, which roommate nicked my last Fudgesicle (and can you please spoil their milk in revenge)?"

 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
48. I'd like to operate a coffee machine across the room from the keyboard, etc.
Fri Jan 17, 2014, 06:48 PM
Jan 2014

Wireless appliance networking has some real pluses, like remote controlling sound systems.

dlwickham

(3,316 posts)
52. reminds me of some movie or TV show I saw a while back
Fri Jan 17, 2014, 07:01 PM
Jan 2014

I think it was a phone line that hadn't been fully disconnected and was automatically calling this one number and the person whose number it was called the cops because she thought it was someone harassing her and the person who lived at the address where phone line was didn't even know that there was a phone line in his basement

wish I could remember the name of the show

Glassunion

(10,201 posts)
53. IIRC there was a Toshiba TV that sent out a Search and Rescue Satellite distress call.
Fri Jan 17, 2014, 07:09 PM
Jan 2014

I think it was in Oregon if my memory is correct.

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