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KoKo

(84,711 posts)
Sun Jan 19, 2014, 04:20 PM Jan 2014

Going the Distance--On and off the road with Barack Obama (David Remnick/New Yorker)

Last edited Sun Jan 19, 2014, 05:59 PM - Edit history (1)

(This is a retrospective piece on PBO's accomplishments in first term and what he hopes to accomplish in his second. Remnick travels with and interviews PBO and others in an 18 Page article leading up to the Inaugural Address. I thought it an interesting read describing Obama's careful and thoughtful decision making reflecting his pragmatic view of the world and the role of the US President in it. The article doesn't really question the policies that have resulted in none of the Wall Street Criminals doing any jail time. Nor the Bankers who got off with Golden Parachutes. But, it has a comforting view of his foreign policy which is far different from Bush/Cheney.

But, I'm posting the snips from the article/interview mentioning Democrats on the "Progressive Left" which seem to verify why some of us on the Left have been so impatient with him.) I think many DU'ers would enjoy reading the whole article although there are not many new revelations, it's a little more insight into his philosophy of governance.)


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Going the Distance
On and off the road with Barack Obama.
by David Remnick January 27, 2014


Johnson’s Great Society will be fifty years old in 2014, but no Republican wants a repeat of that scale of government ambition. Obama acknowledges this, saying, “The appetite for tax-and-transfer strategies, even among Democrats, much less among independents or Republicans, is probably somewhat limited, because people are seeing their incomes haven’t gone up, their wages haven’t gone up. It’s natural for them to think any new taxes may be going to somebody else, I’m not confident in terms of how it’s going to be spent, I’d much rather hang on to what I’ve got.” He will try to do things like set up partnerships with selected cities and citizens’ groups, sign some executive orders, but a “Marshall Plan for the inner city is not going to get through Congress anytime soon.”

Indeed, Obama is quick to show a measure of sympathy with the Reagan-era conservative analysis of government. “This is where sometimes progressives get frustrated with me,” he said, “because I actually think there was a legitimate critique of the welfare state getting bloated, and relying too much on command and control, top-down government programs to address it back in the seventies. It’s also why it’s ironic when I’m accused of being this raging socialist who wants to amass more and more power for their own government. . . . But I do think that some of the anti-government rhetoric, anti-tax rhetoric, anti-spending rhetoric that began before Reagan but fully flowered with the Reagan Presidency accelerated trends that were already existing, or at least robbed us of some tools to deal with the downsides of globalization and technology, and that with just some modest modification we could grow this economy faster and benefit more people and provide more opportunity.

“After we did all that, there would still be poverty and there would still be some inequality and there would still be a lot of work to do for the forty-fifth through fiftieth Presidents,” he went on, “but I’d like to give voice to an impression I think a lot of Americans have, which is it’s harder to make it now if you are just the average citizen who’s willing to work hard and has good values, and wasn’t born with huge advantages or having enjoyed extraordinary luck—that the ground is less secure under your feet.”

In the White House, advisers are resigned by now to the idea that some liberal voters, dismayed by a range of issues—drones, the N.S.A., the half measures of health care and financial reform—have turned away from Obama and to newer figures like Elizabeth Warren or Bill de Blasio. “Well, look, we live in a very fast-moving culture,” Obama said. “And, by definition, the President of the United States is overexposed, and it is natural, after six, seven years of me being on the national stage, that people start wanting to see . . .”

“Other flavors?”

“Yes,” he said. “ ‘Is there somebody else out there who can give me that spark of inspiration or excitement?’ I don’t spend too much time worrying about that. I think the things that are exciting people are the same things that excite me and excited me back then. I might have given fresh voice to them, but the values are essentially the same.”


http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2014/01/27/140127fa_fact_remnick?currentPage=all
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Going the Distance--On and off the road with Barack Obama (David Remnick/New Yorker) (Original Post) KoKo Jan 2014 OP
It's a really good piece. cali Jan 2014 #1
There's this one disturbing paragraph that I couldn't fit in.. KoKo Jan 2014 #4
How dare he admit from decades of empirical data Pretzel_Warrior Jan 2014 #13
Who is POB? Pretzel_Warrior Jan 2014 #2
Another of the paid corporate chattering class Pretzel_Warrior Jan 2014 #3
I would bet you don't have a clue. and I would bet you didn't even read it cali Jan 2014 #9
No. I read it. His smarmy approach I am more used to seeing in Rolling Stone celeb Pretzel_Warrior Jan 2014 #11
This is a wonderful lengthy article steve2470 Jan 2014 #5
kick for visibility nt steve2470 Jan 2014 #6
Darn ... 1000words Jan 2014 #7
Well...if you care beyond a "Shirtless Beach Picture"...then READ IT! KoKo Jan 2014 #8
Yep RobertEarl Jan 2014 #10
I'm glad you enjoyed it. Nor am I surprised. Pretzel_Warrior Jan 2014 #12
BTW...David Remnick has a enterview with Charlie Rose about his Piece in New Yorker. KoKo Jan 2014 #14

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
4. There's this one disturbing paragraph that I couldn't fit in..
Sun Jan 19, 2014, 04:46 PM
Jan 2014

(I found this disturbing because it was the only program he could find that he thought was worthwhile that government had been able to do...and that he seems to still find Reagan such an admirable president)

---------Snip from Page 18---------

One of the things that I’ve learned to appreciate more as President is you are essentially a relay swimmer in a river full of rapids, and that river is history,” he later told me. “You don’t start with a clean slate, and the things you start may not come to full fruition on your timetable. But you can move things forward. And sometimes the things that start small may turn out to be fairly significant. I suspect that Ronald Reagan, if you’d asked him, would not have considered the earned-income-tax-credit provision in tax reform to be at the top of his list of accomplishments. On the other hand, what the E.I.T.C. has done, starting with him, being added to by Clinton, being used by me during the Recovery Act, has probably kept more people out of poverty than a whole lot of other government programs that are currently in place.”
 

Pretzel_Warrior

(8,361 posts)
13. How dare he admit from decades of empirical data
Mon Jan 20, 2014, 12:54 PM
Jan 2014

That Ronald Reagan's policies weren't 100% evil! Sounds like a guy who doesn't view the world through partisan lens and who doesn't ever have to run in an election ever again.

It is cracking me up watching the usual detractors glom onto this pathetic piece of writing.

 

Pretzel_Warrior

(8,361 posts)
3. Another of the paid corporate chattering class
Sun Jan 19, 2014, 04:41 PM
Jan 2014

I would bet most of his framing about Obama's demeanor and tone during the interview are pure bullshit.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
9. I would bet you don't have a clue. and I would bet you didn't even read it
Mon Jan 20, 2014, 05:00 AM
Jan 2014

all you're interested in is fawning slobbering adoration.

Disturbing. You.

 

Pretzel_Warrior

(8,361 posts)
11. No. I read it. His smarmy approach I am more used to seeing in Rolling Stone celeb
Mon Jan 20, 2014, 12:49 PM
Jan 2014

Interviews where the reader is led toward certain perceptions by the writer that are not objective at all.

This guy wants to paint Obama as testy and bothered about his presidency. H paints him as somehow weak and inconsistent because he chews nicotine gum.

Pretty shallow tripe.

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
8. Well...if you care beyond a "Shirtless Beach Picture"...then READ IT!
Sun Jan 19, 2014, 09:02 PM
Jan 2014

It's quite a revealing article about our President.

He's leaving it "Up to Congress."

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
10. Yep
Mon Jan 20, 2014, 05:20 AM
Jan 2014

He has given up.

"It is what it is man" says Obama. And he's just the president, not like he has any power. Except to drone away and repeat the failed pruneface's religion of lower taxes on the rich means they can trickle down on all you peons easier.

He should just retire. But really, pardon bush first. That would show them.

 

Pretzel_Warrior

(8,361 posts)
12. I'm glad you enjoyed it. Nor am I surprised.
Mon Jan 20, 2014, 12:50 PM
Jan 2014

The president's opponents would be thrilled by such a petty hit piece.

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
14. BTW...David Remnick has a enterview with Charlie Rose about his Piece in New Yorker.
Thu Jan 23, 2014, 07:36 PM
Jan 2014

Those of you who are Charlie Rose Watchers know where to find the video.

What was fascinating is that Remnick doesn't mention Obama's influence of Reagan on his policies...but that is IN his ARTICEL at the LINK.

That PBO holds Reagan in his highest Esteem and not Lyndon Johnson is and was quite interesting. My Post above gives the Snips from the Article which Charlie Rose Ignored in his interview and Remnick didn't Push.

But, the interview was "Tortured" but interesting. If anyone wants to post it.

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