JoeScum and MikaMouse have no shame

[malaise]

They are not concerned that there was attempted extortion - it's all about Zimmer's character.

[Skittles]

1. they whore for republicans

they'd be all over the extortion angle like flies on shit if Christie was a Democrat

[valerief]

65. ^^^THIS^^^

[MADem]

2. What's wrong with her character? What are they suggesting? nt

[AngryOldDem]

16. That she's an opportunist.

Joe's wondering why she waited until now to say something about the funds. He's suggesting she's just piling on for political gain. He's also baiting Kornacki.

"I'm not trying to be a bully here, I just want the facts!"

Whatever you say, Joe.

[MADem]

21. What horse shitters!

She certainly didn't sound "opportunistic" to me, she sounded like a person who is a) principled, and b) pragmatic, who was agonized by this situation. I think she felt bullied, and believed that the way she was pressed was beyond the realm of politics as usual. If it took "bridge gate" for her to realize she can speak up and not get crushed, then that's all the more proof that she felt constrained.

[AngryOldDem]

22. Exactly.

But not in the Alternate Universe of Joe Scarborough.

She raised this issue about funds weeks ago. And it's totally understandable why she felt she had to tread lightly.

Now Mika is throwing Zimmer under the bus, but also admits that there's a lot of questions that need to be answered.

I'm usually long gone by the time this show comes on -- I don't know how people can watch it on a daily basis.

[MADem]

23. And speaking of horse shit, if they persist with that argument, they'll come across as

not just spouting it, but stepping in it!

Anyone who continues to defend Christie will find themselves on the wrong side of history.

Concur with you on the show quality. I rarely watch that program, it's just dreadful!

[mtasselin]

47. exactly

I stopped watching this show about a year ago, Mika at one time had a mind of her own, but now she goes along with whatever morning asshole has to say. This show plus Meet the Press which I can't watch because of Gregory, he should go back and watch some shows of years gone bye so see what real journalism is all about.

[Dustlawyer]

42. I am sure that up to Bridgegate, she was afraid to challenge such a popular, high profile politician

Specially with his penchant for retribution!

[AngryOldDem]

56. Who wouldn't be?

Fort Lee merely connected the dots for her. It sounds like prior to that, she had her suspicions, but you can't go up against someone like Chris Christie with just a gut feel that something isn't right. Local and state politics are minefields. That goes triple in Jersey.

[Dustlawyer]

71. I agree! I saw her interview where she stated that, "Maybe I should have said something then,

but..." The thing is, she hadn't given in to the pressure yet either. She said she was between a rock and a hard place and she was. It's easy for these Monday-morning quarterbacks to say what she should have done when it wasn't their career/future involved. I think that she still thought she might talk them out of their position.
This current attack is yet another lame attempt to discredit and distract from the real issue here, Christie's people (and Christie himself) broke the law!

[RKP5637]

62. Yep, agree. She took what she thought was the appropriate

action at that time. She's dealing with a pack of bullies with big clubs to use. Equality and fairness aren't part of that crowd, rather, intimidation rules. And that crowd is unfit for political office in a supposed democracy.

[TheBlackAdder]

55. She sure is an opportunist. She waited for an opportunity when her message would be received.

In the prior environment, with an almost 70% approval rating, another prosecutor getting fired for challenging someone Christie apparently liked, and seeing how Bret Schundler (former mayor of neighboring Jersey City) was treated...

She had no alternative besides waiting, else she'd be attacked and dismissed as well.

[Katashi_itto]

3. Don't forget they are banging each other too

[bravenak]

4. I've always thought so too.

[Walk away]

59. I think it's more like she services him. nt

[dorkzilla]

5. I couldn't bring myself to watch...

So you're watching it for me, malaise! Keep us cowards appraised of the boot-licking!

[chillfactor]

6. yes they raised questions about Zimmer's "character"....

especially Mika as others have done..

but lets be fair....others explained quite clearly why Zimmer may have waited

I watched the segment..and yes Joe and Mika are scumbags but lets give an entire view of the segment and not just handout personal potshots

[polichick]

7. Steve coming up to set them straight.

[Cha]

8. mika adored the attention she got from Christie

before his reputation blew up and she doesn't want to let go. no need to explain joe tool's intentions.

They're going to get left in the dust while Rachel, Steve, Chris, and LO'D do the real reporting on the Gov Scandal that keeps growing daily. While they're sitting back trying to squash it.

Newsflash for mika and joe.. Dawn Zimmer has more character in her little toe than youse could only wish for if you cared about such things. lol

[luckykate54]

9. Mika

I think she is making a fool of herself.

[chillfactor]

11. no argument there...

she must be a disgrace to her father

[Atman]

10. They are attacking Kornacki, too. They only care about Christie.

Mika is at least pointing out the serious questions involved, even while acknowledging her personal relationship with the Christies. Joe isn't even trying to appear impartial. He is attacking anyone who dares question The Great and Powerful Christie.

[polichick]

12. Joe is a thug wannabe.

[dchill]

35. He's a creepy d**k.

Always has been, always will be. Some things never change.

[deminks]

15. They sure didn't give Kornacki much time, lol.

Joe kept trying to get Kornacki to give his opinion on the Mayor. Steve at one point said he was just here to report on the story, not give his opinion. Left Joe sputtering.

[charmay]

13. I liked the part where Mika called Dawn Z. A pushover

And Steve interjected that if she was a pushover, the Rockefeller group (and Christie) would have gotten their way.

[polichick]

17. Good on Steve.

[Cha]

18. Yay.. thanks for that, charmay. Mika sounds

very very ignorant. Like she should really brush up on the subject before she says silly things.

[dchill]

37. "brush up on the subject ..."

Not required in MSM world. Just go with the flow of what you don't know.

[Cha]

39. Yeah, it sounds like all that's required is to

have a motormouth and a steady stream of consciousness. Such a farce.

[dchill]

40. Or a steady stream of unconsciousness.

[Cha]

46. there ya go.

[malaise]

68. Mika is no journalist

She's just the daughter of another member of the political elite hence she's entitled to her cushy job.

[AngryOldDem]

19. I really didn't care for her opinion that differences between women have to end in catfights.

"You don't back down."

Uh...yeah, most mayors of small towns in states governed by powerful people will back down rather than stir shit. Zimmer was put in a tough spot, and as Kornacki pointed out, the development did not get built.

[charmay]

29. I agree. It seemed like a Fox Newsish character assassination.

[CTyankee]

32. I love the way Kornacki handed Mika her head in that exchange...

When Mika said she would taken the Sandy money, he said "then YOU would have caved."

The one thing I wish Kornacki had pointed out was that Dawn herself admitted to him that she probably should have stood up to the Lt. Governor. She is feeling remorse for not doing so, for better or worse. So I see her in a very human position, trying to do the best thing for her city.

I wish more could have been said about the fact that Dawn said that to go along with the Rocekfeller Group's project would have exposed her (and the city of Hoboken) to legal troubles down the line. Then of course the Joe and Mika's would have trooped in saying she wussed out...Dawn couldn't win...

[GeorgeGist]

43. Mika's the 'blonde bimbo'?

[beachbum bob]

14. when you ar in denial

what else do you expect the two of them to do?


All predictable behavior..

[AngryOldDem]

20. Here we go again...

Simulcasting "Morning Joe" on "Today" with Joe pontificating and running Zimmer down AGAIN.

Joe's now hand-wringing about Christie's future.

[Cha]

24. It seems to me that having a joe scar running Mayor Zimmer

down is a badge of honor!

[beachbum bob]

25. joe knows christie is toast

and his Today's segment pretty well indicates that.

On the other hand Mika is slowly coming to terms that her best friend Christie is perhaps pond scum. A problem with gravitating to the power is you lose sight of right and wrong.

[CTyankee]

33. I was amazed to hear that Christie told the FL donors that his presidential plans were "on hold."

Well, well...

[PCIntern]

26. The good news is that this weekend we all predicted EXACTLY what Joey would say!

I give us all a lot of credit here...of course, he HAS a track record in this regard.

Joe was going for the job of Press Secretary or some cabinet post in the Christie White House. Now, he could go for Admiral Bendover in the Big House.

[MoonRiver]

27. I was totally revolted by them, especially Mika.

She is an alleged Democrat, yet seems to be the most rabid defender of corrupt scum bag Christie on t.v. I doubt Hannity could out-do her. Watched about 10 minutes, then switched to CNN.

[OldHippieChick]

28. Even Mark Halperin is sounding

logical and objective in the onslaught of "Christie-love" spewing from Joe and Mika. He's actually viewing Zimmer as a reasonable person and acting in an understandable manner. Unlike Mika, he does not say anything about her gender. How dare Mika act as if a woman would pull out her claws and act unreasonably. Sometimes we are our own worst enemy. Thanks a lot Mika.

[PCIntern]

30. She's a Country Club dope

with what amounts to a passable resume in this day and age. Thirty years ago she wouldn't be allowed anywhere near the stage much less as a co-anchor...

[OldHippieChick]

36. She and Luke Russert

should just get a room somewhere and count their blessings for having skilled fathers.

[Paladin]

54. +1. (nt)

[PCIntern]

67. I need bleach for my brain on that one...

Yich.

[OldHippieChick]

69. Didn't mean to cause brain damage

LOL! It does create quite an image though. I picture them just praying to their daddy-gods - not really interacting w/ one another.

[Walk away]

64. It's nice to know that Mika managed to get out from under Joe's desk....

long enough to put in a guest appearance under Christie's.

[PearliePoo2]

31. Scar and Mika KNOW deep down their guy is toast.

Mika is troubled that her friend is looking more and more like a liar, criminal and thug. Scar gives himself away with his STUPID, cheesy grin. Scar looks like and IS a total ass.

[malaise]

38. My paternal grandma used to say

Show me your friends and I'll tell you who you are. Ah well.

[CTyankee]

41. His pontificating about standing up for what is right is pretty funny, given his weaseling

when his ass was in the grinder over the dead intern. He's got his nerve...

[Squinch]

34. Because blaming the victim is such a sign of good character.

[KrazyinKS]

44. It was Mika who said "fasten your seat belts"

She said that a few days back, before the Mayor of Hoboken came into the news. Did she know something? You can see why the mayor was reluctant to come forward. At the time Christie had a lot of support. Joe Scum really needs to take his meds.

[Mike Nelson]

45. What bugged me most...

...was Mika repeatedly advising how women should/would have handled the problem. I understand it her point - but found it bizarre for her to give it so much emphasis - to support her view (Zimmer is bad/a liar/whatever) based their both being female. This seemed to be the deal breaker or Mika - that they were two women and a good woman (like Mika) would have acted differently with a man's female subordinate. I'm not sure I would have acted like Mika wishes - I would feel myself and my city could be threatened. I would probably keep quiet and think about the situation, not blow-up at the state official and make demands.

[The Wizard]

48. Extortion is an indictable offense

Defending the extortionist should drive their ratings farther down the crapper. The people who buy the right wing propaganda will never watch Morning Jerkoff. They're infoxicated.

[catbyte]

49. I can't bring myself to watch that show, but Scarborough was on The Today Show & surprisingly

didn't really say very much to defend Christie. The upshot of the piece is that if there's even a grain of truth in Mayor Zimmer's story, 2016 is the least of Christie's worries & that he'd be lucky to survive as governor. I was actually expecting a more spirited defense of Christie. The interviewer, Savannah Guthrie, I think, asked for this reaction to Christie slamming MSNBC. Scarborough laughed & said they must not have caught his show because they were such Christie cheerleaders that they should've renamed it "Good Morning Trenton." Ugh.

[CTyankee]

57. Oh, Savannah knows Joe pretty well. She was his White House correspondent on Morning Joe

before moving to the Big Time. Savannah looks pretty sharp to me. Maybe he wouldn't pull his shit with her the way he does on Morning Joe with Mika in tow...

[catbyte]

61. I didn't know that. I've only watched "Morning Joe" twice--the 1st time was on November 5, 2008,

the 2nd on November 7, 2012, and even then I couldn't make it through the whole 2 hours...or is it 3?

[CTyankee]

63. It's 3 hours but I don't watch it all the way through. I do tune in to see who is on the show.

They have some good guests. I love it when Dr. Dean is on and when they had Paul Krugman on.

What I like to catch is just the republican talking points of the day from Joe. I often catch the drift of a story in the afternoon and have a feeling that it's going to be fodder for the pukes. And sure enough, Joe weighs in the next morning on the show...he probably gets all prepped the afternoon before and develops a narrative...I like it when his narrative gets shot down which it does pretty regularly...he's a bully and thus vulnerable to lots of people wanting to take him down...fun to watch!

[spanone]

50. they must be so embarrassed that 'their network' exposed the dawn zimmer allegations

bwahahahahahahaaaa

[Cha]

52. OTOH They have got to be so jealous

Rachel and Steve getting all the scoops and ratings! And it ain't over yet. Wonder how Kornacki feels about joe dissing him? At least that's what I thought I read happened.

[madokie]

51. Prostituting for those who have it all

Always do and I suspect always will.

[giftedgirl77]

53. He's not didn't try to throw Bengahzi into the mix every 5 seconds today?

If not I'm impressed, last week that's all he could talk about.

[CTyankee]

58. I think he doesn't because he knows the public doesn't care about the Benghazi stuff.

He tried stirring the shit, it got stirred, he came out not looking great any way...so he moves on...

[giftedgirl77]

60. I hope so, last week he was bitching about the

negative feedback he was getting on Twitter from the "far left" as he called them for his constantly trying to deflect from the Christie coverage to talk about legitimate Obama "scandals" and of course everytime Mila tried to say something he would just cut her off. Did they ever think he was running off viewers? I can't stand his ass.

[flamingdem]

66. hhmumpf, glad I was sleeping

Are they going to be the only ones sticking up for Christie when the canaries sing? How about planning ahead for that?

[Gothmog]

70. I do not understand why the GOP thinks that Mayor Zimmer's prior positive statements help them

The fact that Mayor Zimmer made positive statements about Christie in the past does not really help Christie as to these charges. These are not prior inconsistent statements and actually could help booster Mayor Zimmer's credibility .