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Lost_Count

(555 posts)
Wed Jan 22, 2014, 09:19 PM Jan 2014

Map Shows Which States Americans Are Moving To And Leaving



United Van Lines recently published its inbound and outbound moving data for the U.S. (This is different from the map from Atlas Van Lines we published last week, which actually shows slightly different data).

Seth Kadish at Vizual Statistix has compiled the data into a spectacular map that captures the migration flows.

It looks at which states had the greatest share of inbound moves as a percent of total moves.

http://www.businessinsider.com/2013-moving-map-2014-1

Looks like everyone is moving south and west...

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Map Shows Which States Americans Are Moving To And Leaving (Original Post) Lost_Count Jan 2014 OP
We moved from Southeast to Northeast. onehandle Jan 2014 #1
I did the same thing about a decade ago. NutmegYankee Jan 2014 #6
Good luck getting a job in OR 1000words Jan 2014 #2
Most of the people who 'move' to MA don't do so in a United Van Lines truck... MADem Jan 2014 #3
I agree with you. Massachusetts is becoming more concentrated with highly educated, bluestate10 Jan 2014 #25
I believe Atlas Van Lines GP6971 Jan 2014 #4
I recall the same thing.. TX, SC, and FL were the top destinations, iirc. X_Digger Jan 2014 #24
If only U Haul GP6971 Jan 2014 #33
I used u-haul.. once.. for a cross country move. X_Digger Jan 2014 #34
Thank you X Digger for the links GP6971 Jan 2014 #27
De nada! I hate trying to copy/paste on tablets, too. n/t X_Digger Jan 2014 #30
What is it with moving to Control-Z Jan 2014 #5
As far as NC goes Lex Jan 2014 #9
North Carolina has concentrated technology areas within the state and Charlotte is the bluestate10 Jan 2014 #26
Well, my sister-in-law and her husband GP6971 Jan 2014 #31
We moved to NC--Chapel Hill--in 2000 and I love Chapel Hill. mnhtnbb Jan 2014 #47
South Dakota? Sheldon Cooper Jan 2014 #7
I take it you haven't heard of the South Dakota oil boom. WillowTree Jan 2014 #16
That's North Dakota. But South Dakota has low costs and low unemployment. Comrade Grumpy Jan 2014 #23
Duh!.......I need to get more rest............... WillowTree Jan 2014 #44
Many people leaving the SE. Vashta Nerada Jan 2014 #8
per that map? Lex Jan 2014 #10
Looks like they're fleeing the NE to me. n/t Skip Intro Jan 2014 #18
Perhaps you have misread the map. Hosnon Jan 2014 #22
what about the people who used Uhaul or Ryder? NightWatcher Jan 2014 #11
Only a small percentage of people use a big indie9197 Jan 2014 #12
lots of people moving to colorado, hmmm Oscarmonster13 Jan 2014 #13
We will all be moving back when the roody Jan 2014 #14
Aging population moving south. FSogol Jan 2014 #15
Looks like MI is running out of people to emigrate. RandySF Jan 2014 #17
Gov. Chris Christie is the most fleed governor in America = traffic jambs have consequences. Coyotl Jan 2014 #19
Before I'd even consider it as a viable chart I would have to ask this LynneSin Jan 2014 #20
See post #24. Atlas and u-haul report similar trends. n/t X_Digger Jan 2014 #28
United Van Lines is either Top Corporate or Retirees who still have Money KoKo Jan 2014 #21
The baby boomers are retiring. JaneyVee Jan 2014 #29
Either the Carolinas are the new Florida for retirement... Barack_America Jan 2014 #37
What's this say that the Census doesn't? Gidney N Cloyd Jan 2014 #32
Glad to see some in the most populous states can still retire to warmer climates. Barack_America Jan 2014 #35
Not surprised that Oregon is among the top places to move davidpdx Jan 2014 #36
What about Alaska & Hawaii?? KauaiK Jan 2014 #38
We always get left out. Blue_In_AK Jan 2014 #45
moved from queens, NY to phoenix, az DesertFlower Jan 2014 #39
it feels to me like everyone is moving mackerel Jan 2014 #41
i'm terrified of earthquakes. even though DesertFlower Jan 2014 #43
I think So. Carolina & No. Carolina are Historic NY Jan 2014 #40
on a Facebook page for my old hometown in Northwestern PA overwhelmingly people have moved South and Douglas Carpenter Jan 2014 #42
Utah is one of the fastest growing states in the country and is one of the worst performing here... Drunken Irishman Jan 2014 #46

NutmegYankee

(16,225 posts)
6. I did the same thing about a decade ago.
Wed Jan 22, 2014, 09:26 PM
Jan 2014

Didn't like the politics of the south, but also really hated the summers.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
3. Most of the people who 'move' to MA don't do so in a United Van Lines truck...
Wed Jan 22, 2014, 09:24 PM
Jan 2014

They come, with their parents, with all their shit stuffed in the back of the family SUV/minivan. They unpack and they start classes. They stay for four years (five if they're on a co-op plan), they acquire stuff, and they sometimes go on to grad school. The ones who leave sell their junk to underclassmen and take a plane home. The ones who stay keep acquiring more stuff and stay in the city!

bluestate10

(10,942 posts)
25. I agree with you. Massachusetts is becoming more concentrated with highly educated,
Wed Jan 22, 2014, 11:18 PM
Jan 2014

relatively young and high paid people. Boston is becoming a younger and younger city.

GP6971

(31,365 posts)
4. I believe Atlas Van Lines
Wed Jan 22, 2014, 09:25 PM
Jan 2014

came up with basically the same conclusions.........sorry unable to find the link right now

GP6971

(31,365 posts)
33. If only U Haul
Wed Jan 22, 2014, 11:39 PM
Jan 2014

kept their equipment in better shape. Part of my job is corporate relocations......many of the younger, more mobile employees want to do it themselves. If they're renting trucks, I try to steer them to Budget and Penske. I have 9 U Haul locations within 10 miles of me.......local rentals fine, one way across the country, not so much. Their equipment looks old and fragile.

X_Digger

(18,585 posts)
34. I used u-haul.. once.. for a cross country move.
Wed Jan 22, 2014, 11:51 PM
Jan 2014

Their car dolly/trailer broke on I-20 in bumfuck, Lousiana. Luckily I was stopped for gas and noticed the hitch hanging almost loose, and there was a local center who brought us a new trailer.

I can only imagine the havoc had it broken all the way through and was only being held by the safety chains.

GP6971

(31,365 posts)
27. Thank you X Digger for the links
Wed Jan 22, 2014, 11:23 PM
Jan 2014

Still trying how to figure out to copy and paste with the iPad

bluestate10

(10,942 posts)
26. North Carolina has concentrated technology areas within the state and Charlotte is the
Wed Jan 22, 2014, 11:23 PM
Jan 2014

biggest banking hub outside of New York City. The reason why President Obama barely won North Carolina in 2008 and barely lost it in 2012 is because of the voters in the advanced part of the state canceling out rural voters. The population shift is why I see North Carolina becoming blue, the people moving in or getting college educations there and staying are educated and more liberal than old line residents.

GP6971

(31,365 posts)
31. Well, my sister-in-law and her husband
Wed Jan 22, 2014, 11:27 PM
Jan 2014

Just bought a retirement home in NC in a gated community. And they're both democrats!!!! Go figure....I asked her what they were thinking when they did this!!!! No answer

mnhtnbb

(31,492 posts)
47. We moved to NC--Chapel Hill--in 2000 and I love Chapel Hill.
Thu Jan 23, 2014, 06:41 AM
Jan 2014

Oldest son was in high school when we moved and he's stayed here--now 27--
and working for a young, hip, very successful software company that designs apps
for smart phones.

I don't know where your SIL and her hubby bought, but if they are in the Triangle
area or Asheville, or even parts of Mecklenburg county (Charlotte) they will be surrounded
by fellow dems--even if it is a gated community.

On edit: we left California in 1988: lived in MO for 6 years and NE for 6 years
before moving to NC. You couldn't PAY me to go back to CA.

 

Comrade Grumpy

(13,184 posts)
23. That's North Dakota. But South Dakota has low costs and low unemployment.
Wed Jan 22, 2014, 11:14 PM
Jan 2014

And low wages.

And it's -20 there right now.

On edit: Someone down thread mentioned that United Van Lines caters to affluent retirees, among others. Just off hand, I know several couples who left SD as young adults, had their kids, retired, and are now selling their expensive homes on the Coasts and moving back to SD to buy equivalent homes at much less cost and having nice nest eggs left over.

WillowTree

(5,325 posts)
44. Duh!.......I need to get more rest...............
Thu Jan 23, 2014, 01:45 AM
Jan 2014

You're right, of course. Don't know where my head was.

Maybe South Dakota..........

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
11. what about the people who used Uhaul or Ryder?
Wed Jan 22, 2014, 09:37 PM
Jan 2014

Maybe Atlas isn't as popular in some states. I've moved a few times and never used them. I have used Uhaul twice, Ryder once, Penske once, my own truck a couple of times.

indie9197

(509 posts)
12. Only a small percentage of people use a big
Wed Jan 22, 2014, 09:59 PM
Jan 2014

moving company. Mostly wealthy people and those who have their relocation expenses paid for by their employer.

 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
19. Gov. Chris Christie is the most fleed governor in America = traffic jambs have consequences.
Wed Jan 22, 2014, 11:02 PM
Jan 2014
Handy fact.

LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
20. Before I'd even consider it as a viable chart I would have to ask this
Wed Jan 22, 2014, 11:04 PM
Jan 2014

What about other moving lines and their patterns. Or people who move themselves (when I moved from PA to DE I moved it all by myself). I'd also like to know who the top 3 moving companies are on a state by state business.

I expect next week for Faux News to regard this as scientific fact even though it hardly isn't based one one particular moving line.

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
21. United Van Lines is either Top Corporate or Retirees who still have Money
Wed Jan 22, 2014, 11:08 PM
Jan 2014

Moving to those states.

I'm hearing that NC is midway between kids who live in other parts of East Coast and good Air Transport to kids who are scattered across Midwest and CA with Texas thrown in as one of the easy states to get to.

Map seems to show that it's NC, NJ...Northeast folks following kids.. Those folks would have most money to use United Van Lines along with a scattering of Top Line Job transfers who qualify for large Moving Van Line.

Barack_America

(28,876 posts)
37. Either the Carolinas are the new Florida for retirement...
Thu Jan 23, 2014, 12:05 AM
Jan 2014

...or there's enough people fleeing the batshit crazy state to somewhat balance out the retirees.

Oregon is interesting too. I'd consider retiring there too. Legal physician-assisted suicide.

Gidney N Cloyd

(19,847 posts)
32. What's this say that the Census doesn't?
Wed Jan 22, 2014, 11:36 PM
Jan 2014

On edit, I know this is 2013 but we've kind of seen these patterns in place for a while.

Barack_America

(28,876 posts)
35. Glad to see some in the most populous states can still retire to warmer climates.
Wed Jan 22, 2014, 11:57 PM
Jan 2014

That's pretty much what I see here.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
36. Not surprised that Oregon is among the top places to move
Thu Jan 23, 2014, 12:05 AM
Jan 2014

Most of them are Californians. Toss'em back across the boarder.

DesertFlower

(11,649 posts)
39. moved from queens, NY to phoenix, az
Thu Jan 23, 2014, 12:37 AM
Jan 2014

in late '89. one of the best things we ever did, but i do hate the politics here.

DesertFlower

(11,649 posts)
43. i'm terrified of earthquakes. even though
Thu Jan 23, 2014, 01:11 AM
Jan 2014

i love the ocean after super storm sandy i don't want to be anywhere near water. california is expensive too. many people who live here come from california.

Historic NY

(37,490 posts)
40. I think So. Carolina & No. Carolina are
Thu Jan 23, 2014, 12:56 AM
Jan 2014

mostly some what snowbirds... My buddies daughter dragged her family down there 6 months ago with promises of work home physical therapy. The company never got her license as promised and the salary was less than here in NY. She is moving back.

Douglas Carpenter

(20,226 posts)
42. on a Facebook page for my old hometown in Northwestern PA overwhelmingly people have moved South and
Thu Jan 23, 2014, 01:01 AM
Jan 2014

West - The reasons they site are almost always the weather and better job opportunities

 

Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
46. Utah is one of the fastest growing states in the country and is one of the worst performing here...
Thu Jan 23, 2014, 03:30 AM
Jan 2014

This has been a common problem for Utah and why, compared to other western states, it continues to lag behind others. A great deal of our growth is totally internal - Mormons having Mormon babies (and a lot of 'em). I wouldn't be surprised if most of the growth we've experienced over the years comes from children. This list pretty much shows that not many people are moving to Utah - at least, not at the level to make up for those leaving.

So, who's leaving Utah? Is it the Mormons or the non-Mormons?

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