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Playinghardball

(11,665 posts)
Thu Jan 23, 2014, 02:57 PM Jan 2014

Don’t want to be hassled by creationist teacher? Give up Buddhism, Louisiana public school says



A public school in Louisiana allegedly advised a Buddhist family to change their beliefs if they didn’t want their child to face harassment from zealous teachers.

The American Civil Liberties Union and the ACLU of Louisiana on Wednesday filed a federal lawsuit against Negreet High School in Sabine Parish on behalf of two parents, Scott and Sharon Lane, and their son, “C.C.” The lawsuit claims the school has “a longstanding custom, policy, and practice of promoting and inculcating Christian beliefs,” including the teaching of creationism.

Sixth-grade teacher Rita Roark has told her students that the universe was created by God about 6,000 years ago, and taught that both the Big Bang theory and evolution are false, according to the lawsuit. She told her students that “if evolution was real, it would still be happening: Apes would be turning into humans today.”

One test she gave to students asked: “ISN’T IT AMAZING WHAT THE _____________ HAS MADE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!” The correct answer was “Lord,” but C.C. wrote in something else. Roark responded by scolding the boy in front of the entire class.

When informed that C.C. was a Buddhist and therefore didn’t believe in God, Roark allegedly responded, “you’re stupid if you don’t believe in God.”

On another accusation, she allegedly described both Buddhism and Hinduism as “stupid.”

When the outraged parents confronted Sabine Parish Superintendent Sara Ebarb about the incidents, she allegedly told them “this is the Bible belt” and that they “shouldn’t be offended” to “see God here.” Ebarb advised that C.C. should either change his faith or be transferred to another District school where “there are more Asians.”

More at: http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/01/23/dont-want-to-be-hassled-by-creationist-teacher-give-up-buddhism-louisiana-public-school-says/
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Don’t want to be hassled by creationist teacher? Give up Buddhism, Louisiana public school says (Original Post) Playinghardball Jan 2014 OP
Hoo! Win this lawsuit and send your kid to an expensive private school so he Nay Jan 2014 #1
I don't know about today... TroglodyteScholar Jan 2014 #44
I grow weary SamKnause Jan 2014 #2
I'm old enough to remember when this wasn't the case. Growing old surrounded by nutjobs is hell. n/t freshwest Jan 2014 #5
Public School? Fire said teacher. Done. n/t PowerToThePeople Jan 2014 #3
Agree SamKnause Jan 2014 #4
The rot goes deeper than one teacher unfortunately el_bryanto Jan 2014 #6
They all can hit the road. n/t PowerToThePeople Jan 2014 #7
No argument here - i'm religious myself, but that kind of nasty intolerance has no place in public el_bryanto Jan 2014 #9
+1 sakabatou Jan 2014 #41
"ISN'T IT AMAZING WHAT THE _______ HAS MADE!!!" is a *question* on a sixth grade test? nyquil_man Jan 2014 #8
Apparently your answer is wrong hootinholler Jan 2014 #10
"Current President" demwing Jan 2014 #17
"Xerox Machine"? Warren DeMontague Jan 2014 #27
The correct answer is, of course, "Flying Spaghetti Monster." chrisa Jan 2014 #52
If this is a public school they are in serious deep doo-doo...... Swede Atlanta Jan 2014 #11
It's Louisiana, so they are not in deep doo-doo at all, even if it is a public school. AlinPA Jan 2014 #12
You're wrong... Wounded Bear Jan 2014 #23
WTF? Even Private Parochial Schools are not this stupid Xyzse Jan 2014 #13
You know, I went to a Catholic High School & never......... mrmpa Jan 2014 #14
Also went to a Catholic girls HS but in the 60's. marew Jan 2014 #47
I also haven't been a Catholic either, for decades........ mrmpa Jan 2014 #53
So true! marew Jan 2014 #56
Separation Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2014 #15
Bless this man. TroglodyteScholar Jan 2014 #45
Feel the same on all counts. nt DeschutesRiver Jan 2014 #57
Well, the unemployment line needs to get at least 2 people longer. AtheistCrusader Jan 2014 #16
Agreed! perdita9 Jan 2014 #34
Yeah, the country doesn't need more teachers spreading this crap in schools Warpy Jan 2014 #37
An unbelievable ass shenmue Jan 2014 #18
Creationist teacher is an oxymoron. n/t Egalitarian Thug Jan 2014 #19
Holy Crap. The ACLU needs to burn that f*$%ing place to the ground in court! nt Adrahil Jan 2014 #20
Silly teacher Buddhism doesn't exist. grantcart Jan 2014 #21
I remember our public school had a 'Bible Teacher' on staff Bonx Jan 2014 #22
These people are an insult to education. W.J. McCabe Jan 2014 #24
Time to cut another check to Americans United. Warren DeMontague Jan 2014 #25
thanks so much for the link.... mike_c Jan 2014 #42
"Apes would be turning into humans today!" Fuzzy on the concept a bit? Beartracks Jan 2014 #26
Should have asked her to explain antibiotic resistant bacteria perdita9 Jan 2014 #32
Rita Roark is too fucking stupid to teach elementary school RainDog Jan 2014 #28
Sad but true. TroglodyteScholar Jan 2014 #46
glad to hear the school is being sued. liberal_at_heart Jan 2014 #29
"Three things cannot be long hidden: Alkene Jan 2014 #30
My son's Biology teacher had Bible verses posted in her class perdita9 Jan 2014 #31
This asshole teacher should lose her job immediately. Enthusiast Jan 2014 #33
Funny how the Right claimed the Commies were infiltrating everywhere when it was them. Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2014 #35
Oh, the ACLU is going to love fighting this one. Warpy Jan 2014 #36
Quite the broad brush you used there... Lost_Count Jan 2014 #38
Oh really? Warpy Jan 2014 #39
Is it as broad as the one used in that classroom? (NT) Heywood J Jan 2014 #50
G-d, this school is stupid Gothmog Jan 2014 #40
Sue them all, let God sort them out. flvegan Jan 2014 #43
Wow. Just wow. progressoid Jan 2014 #48
Who would send their kid to such a horrible place? What a lousy education they must be getting. El_Johns Jan 2014 #49
"Apes would be turning into humans today" - This is a teacher!? chrisa Jan 2014 #51
These people are dumb as rocks Oilwellian Jan 2014 #54
This is going to be one heck of a lawsuit. nt TBF Jan 2014 #55

Nay

(12,051 posts)
1. Hoo! Win this lawsuit and send your kid to an expensive private school so he
Thu Jan 23, 2014, 03:05 PM
Jan 2014

can get a decent education.

TroglodyteScholar

(5,477 posts)
44. I don't know about today...
Thu Jan 23, 2014, 10:31 PM
Jan 2014

...but I went to one of the better private schools in north LA about 25 years ago, and it was still as bible-thumping as they come. As of the 1980's, there was nothing but people who were going to drive religion into you. I guess the difference at my school was that there actually were Christians teaching there who believed in a lot of science that wasn't controversial then, but somehow is now.

SamKnause

(13,106 posts)
2. I grow weary
Thu Jan 23, 2014, 03:05 PM
Jan 2014

of these religious fucknuts.

Creationism in public schools, using out tax dollars.

What a kick in the sack.

We need to up the intelligence factor, not continue on our terrifyingly quick descent.

SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE should be strictly adhered to in this country.

Unfortunately that shipped sailed long ago as have many others.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
5. I'm old enough to remember when this wasn't the case. Growing old surrounded by nutjobs is hell. n/t
Thu Jan 23, 2014, 03:36 PM
Jan 2014

el_bryanto

(11,804 posts)
6. The rot goes deeper than one teacher unfortunately
Thu Jan 23, 2014, 03:38 PM
Jan 2014

It's multiple teachers the principal and the schoolboard.

Bryant

el_bryanto

(11,804 posts)
9. No argument here - i'm religious myself, but that kind of nasty intolerance has no place in public
Thu Jan 23, 2014, 04:22 PM
Jan 2014

schools.

Bryant

hootinholler

(26,449 posts)
10. Apparently your answer is wrong
Thu Jan 23, 2014, 04:32 PM
Jan 2014

Mine was Bell Laboratories, which according to the teacher is also wrong.

 

demwing

(16,916 posts)
17. "Current President"
Thu Jan 23, 2014, 05:06 PM
Jan 2014

"ISN'T IT AMAZING WHAT THE Current President HAS MADE!!!"

Apparently, the teacher is a big Obamacare fan

chrisa

(4,524 posts)
52. The correct answer is, of course, "Flying Spaghetti Monster."
Fri Jan 24, 2014, 10:15 AM
Jan 2014

"Cthulu" would also be an acceptable answer.

 

Swede Atlanta

(3,596 posts)
11. If this is a public school they are in serious deep doo-doo......
Thu Jan 23, 2014, 04:35 PM
Jan 2014

The very question on the test "Isn't it amazing what the _____ has made" is a form of establishment of religion. It pre-supposes that there is a existential being that created something. That conflicts with the rights of atheists and agnostics. And the student's answer of Lord Buddha is an honest answer based on his faith tradition. It is no more right or wrong than "God", Jehovah, Bal or whatever.

And the superintendent's comments that this is the Bible belt is no defense. Just because you hold those beliefs does not entitle you to force them on a student who has a constitutional right to be free of government establishment or as the SCOTUS has repeatedly stated promotes or is perceived as promoting a religion.

mrmpa

(4,033 posts)
14. You know, I went to a Catholic High School & never.........
Thu Jan 23, 2014, 04:51 PM
Jan 2014

was taught creationism in my biology classes. Neither was I inundated by with pro-life BS. It was an all female school in the '70's. My Bio teacher was an African-American Nun from Louisiana, I wonder if she's still around and what she thinks about the goings on in her state.

In religion class, just once that I can recall, the Roe v Wade case was the subject of discussion. I offered my view that it was a good decision and I didn't see it as a problem. I was never chastised for this view, nor were my parents called. I was allowed to "think" and speak my "views".

Those days seem to be gone.

marew

(1,588 posts)
47. Also went to a Catholic girls HS but in the 60's.
Fri Jan 24, 2014, 01:20 AM
Jan 2014

Also never heard about 'creationism' and non-Catholics attended but were never hassled. Haven't been a Catholic for decades but have to credit where it is due.

mrmpa

(4,033 posts)
53. I also haven't been a Catholic either, for decades........
Fri Jan 24, 2014, 11:00 AM
Jan 2014

I attended Catholic grade school, high school and college. One of my biggest problem with the Catholic Church is that they can educate through the Ph.D, Medical, and legal level, but when it comes to faith they treat adherents as children.

marew

(1,588 posts)
56. So true!
Fri Jan 24, 2014, 12:31 PM
Jan 2014

Did basically the same. Went to a small Jesuit college my freshman year but transferred to an excellent state university for the rest of my college career and was so glad I did. I do not disparage the Jesuit college at all- it was just time for me to "spread my wings" so to speak.

TroglodyteScholar

(5,477 posts)
45. Bless this man.
Thu Jan 23, 2014, 10:35 PM
Jan 2014

So very intelligent, and so good at making his point in a way that hits home without being over-the-top.

I hope he lives forever.

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
16. Well, the unemployment line needs to get at least 2 people longer.
Thu Jan 23, 2014, 04:54 PM
Jan 2014

Sorry, but... that's the truth. They should be seeking gainful employment somewhere else, not entrusted with the wellbeing/education of our children.

Warpy

(111,261 posts)
37. Yeah, the country doesn't need more teachers spreading this crap in schools
Thu Jan 23, 2014, 06:17 PM
Jan 2014

The kids have to put up with enough of it at home.

Beartracks

(12,814 posts)
26. "Apes would be turning into humans today!" Fuzzy on the concept a bit?
Thu Jan 23, 2014, 05:32 PM
Jan 2014

They fear what they don't understand. And this teacher CLEARLY does not even begin to understand what evolution is.

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perdita9

(1,144 posts)
32. Should have asked her to explain antibiotic resistant bacteria
Thu Jan 23, 2014, 05:57 PM
Jan 2014

Bet Ms. Bible Belt would have blamed MRSA on Satan.

RainDog

(28,784 posts)
28. Rita Roark is too fucking stupid to teach elementary school
Thu Jan 23, 2014, 05:43 PM
Jan 2014

I hope she is fired.

I hope the school district is sued and, as part of the settlement, they have to hire teachers who actually understand science.

If you want to understand why so many people in the south vote for Republicans - this is why.

Because they are TOO FUCKING STUPID.

TroglodyteScholar

(5,477 posts)
46. Sad but true.
Thu Jan 23, 2014, 10:39 PM
Jan 2014

On top of that, in my 25 years down south I encountered a lot of otherwise very intelligent people who still nevertheless maintained some of the more nonsensical views generally associated with dumb hicks.

perdita9

(1,144 posts)
31. My son's Biology teacher had Bible verses posted in her class
Thu Jan 23, 2014, 05:56 PM
Jan 2014

When the topic of evolution came up, he defended it and the religious fanatic the district hired to teach Biology, not Theology, argued against it.

I had a meeting with the principal and asked just how seriously they took the standards based testing the district kept crowing about.

Conclusion: the district made her take down the bible verses and told her she was inviting a lawsuit with her positions in the classroom. Still, I'm angry my son's experience with Biology was ruined by an out and out crank.

Warpy

(111,261 posts)
36. Oh, the ACLU is going to love fighting this one.
Thu Jan 23, 2014, 06:15 PM
Jan 2014

I agree with Gandhi, Christ was mostly an OK fellow but many of his followers are pure poison, especially in the south.

flvegan

(64,408 posts)
43. Sue them all, let God sort them out.
Thu Jan 23, 2014, 10:23 PM
Jan 2014

BTW, for stupid, Buddhism and Hinduism been 'round longer. Just sayin'...

And some, if not many, Buddhists believe in God. It's easier to live Christ's teachings as a Buddhist, sorry.

chrisa

(4,524 posts)
51. "Apes would be turning into humans today" - This is a teacher!?
Fri Jan 24, 2014, 10:13 AM
Jan 2014

If you're going to attack evolution, at least don't totally fail in describing it correctly. Geez...

Oilwellian

(12,647 posts)
54. These people are dumb as rocks
Fri Jan 24, 2014, 11:01 AM
Jan 2014

I recently attended a funeral with a Baptist fundy preacher leading the service. At one point he said our cells totally regenerate every seven years, yet scientists can't explain why we grow old and die.

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