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onehandle

(51,122 posts)
Thu Jan 23, 2014, 05:13 PM Jan 2014

Ghost ship full of cannibal rats could be about to crash into Great Britain

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There are fears a ghost ship full of diseased cannibal rats could be about to crash into the coast of Devon or Cornwall. The abandoned Lyubov Orlova has been missing since it cut adrift while being towed from Canada nearly a year ago.

The 40-year-old liner has been driven across the Atlantic by high winds and is thought close to the UK shore. Based on emergency beacons activated last year aboard the ship, it is feared the 40-year-old Yugoslavian liner registered to Russia could crash into the shore of Devon, Cornwall, Ireland or Scotland.

Those searching for the ship say there are likely to be thousands of disease-ridden rats on board with no source of food except each other, according to The Sun. Belgian-based searcher Pim de Rhoodes said: "She is floating around there somewhere. There will be a lot of rats and they eat each other."

The 4,250-ton ship built to carry 110 passengers was impounded in Canada in 2010 after being deserted by her crew in a debt row. Two years later, she was towed to the Dominican Republic to be scrapped - but abandoned when she broke free.

http://www.plymouthherald.co.uk/Ghost-ship-cannibal-rats-crash-Devon-coast/story-20487193-detail/story.html

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Ghost ship full of cannibal rats could be about to crash into Great Britain (Original Post) onehandle Jan 2014 OP
Free target practice for the British Navy, I guess... Blue_Tires Jan 2014 #1
Yep. Sink it. Warren DeMontague Jan 2014 #6
I so agree with you. RiffRandell Jan 2014 #64
Hell, YOU can have a Babylonian Sex Biscuit! Warren DeMontague Jan 2014 #72
Mmmmmmmmm ... taboo biscuit. 1000words Jan 2014 #114
That is what I'm thinking. madaboutharry Jan 2014 #22
They don't usually sink ships without first stripping them of all possible pollutants. n/t cherokeeprogressive Jan 2014 #33
Yes...you go first... PCIntern Jan 2014 #51
Not exactly true. Xithras Jan 2014 #101
A ship, or a boat? cherokeeprogressive Jan 2014 #112
The whole idea is to prevent it from getting to shore where the rats could get off. Angleae Jan 2014 #119
Helicopter... rat poison... it's not that difficult to imagine ways to kill the rats. Snakes? n/t cherokeeprogressive Jan 2014 #120
The rats are covered by being below decks, there's no guarantee you get all of them or even most. Angleae Jan 2014 #124
Boats and ships have sank for thousands of years. Xithras Jan 2014 #139
Send it to DAVY JONE'S LOCKER... AsahinaKimi Jan 2014 #66
I wonder if sharks can get rabies? demwing Jan 2014 #115
A Rabid infested Great White Shark... AsahinaKimi Jan 2014 #116
Yep, definitely a job for the British Navy. Brigid Jan 2014 #99
Send the HMS Pinafore ananda Jan 2014 #128
diseased cannibal rats? Cali_Democrat Jan 2014 #2
The cap'n is named Mickey flamingdem Jan 2014 #34
"I'm the Captain now." pinboy3niner Jan 2014 #130
I think we have them too! RNC conventions? Sounds familiar! n/t RKP5637 Jan 2014 #55
Yanno . . . Brigid Jan 2014 #100
Or the flagship band for the new Cannibal Metal genre. bluesbassman Jan 2014 #129
Now, that's a headline! 1000words Jan 2014 #3
No doubt by the Grateful Dead BarbaRosa Jan 2014 #49
Maybe, maybe not. Cannibalism is not a stable ecosystem cthulu2016 Jan 2014 #4
Quiet! onehandle Jan 2014 #7
. Xyzse Jan 2014 #13
I like what he likes ... 1000words Jan 2014 #17
sceenplay? SCantiGOP Jan 2014 #36
There's movies about flying piranhas. I think your screenplay is safe. nt Guy Whitey Corngood Jan 2014 #53
Better yet, make them zombie rats. Beacool Jan 2014 #92
When has logic or science every stopped any other Hollywood screenwriter? alarimer Jan 2014 #138
It depends on how much food they started out with Jenoch Jan 2014 #14
One thing we know is that the calories in the young cthulu2016 Jan 2014 #18
Survival Of The Fittest..... global1 Jan 2014 #32
Directed by Uwe Boll. Starring Dean Cain. chrisa Jan 2014 #5
It will probably be on SyFy Channel by next week CrawlingChaos Jan 2014 #12
They could always see if Erik Estrada is busy. This might be his type of movie. chrisa Jan 2014 #15
And Pauly Shore as ... 1000words Jan 2014 #26
Ratnado!? villager Jan 2014 #24
^^^ winner flamingdem Jan 2014 #62
That's the first thing I thought. "This is a MOVIE!" trof Jan 2014 #54
The only pair that can possibly do this justice are Trey Parker and Matt Stone jmowreader Jan 2014 #109
The next big A&E series...nt Wounded Bear Jan 2014 #8
As Judy Collins once sang: "Send in the drones." randome Jan 2014 #9
They laughed until their buboes turned black..... WinkyDink Jan 2014 #10
That is what I was thinking. This could be one of those old movies all we need is to have the ship jwirr Jan 2014 #38
I think it was "Dracula"! WinkyDink Jan 2014 #75
Ghost ships fascinate me Bonx Jan 2014 #11
When I was a kid, I thought that the 'Flying Dutchman' was probably real. onehandle Jan 2014 #16
Me too. Squinch Jan 2014 #46
Or rat ship full of cannibal ghosts... cannibal ship full of ghost rats cthulu2016 Jan 2014 #19
first one, then the other. eggplant Jan 2014 #59
Hasn't this already been done rocktivity Jan 2014 #20
It is an Ancient Mariner, and the rats are eating he. riqster Jan 2014 #21
Ghost ship with cannibal rats? Blue Idaho Jan 2014 #23
You would think someone would want to scrap it. Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2014 #25
Imagine passing her in the atlantic.. adrift.. abandoned.. empty.. X_Digger Jan 2014 #27
The GOP 2016 primary is going full speed ahead! nt geek tragedy Jan 2014 #28
... TwilightGardener Jan 2014 #80
I smell a rat flamingdem Jan 2014 #29
or strawberry tart without so much rat in it muriel_volestrangler Jan 2014 #56
Now I'm starting to feel a little peckish for some rat sorbet Art_from_Ark Jan 2014 #127
Slimy things did crawl with legs upon the slimy sea. The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2014 #30
Burn it with fire before it reaches the coast. Beacool Jan 2014 #31
This has potential 1000words Jan 2014 #35
We'll need lots of marshmallows and long sticks. Beacool Jan 2014 #37
Mmmmmmmmm .... rat S'mores 1000words Jan 2014 #39
They'll probably look like this. Beacool Jan 2014 #44
I've heard cui is tasty 1000words Jan 2014 #52
They gross me out just looking at them. Beacool Jan 2014 #90
A lot to be said for presentation 1000words Jan 2014 #94
Imagine eating this........ Beacool Jan 2014 #96
Yeah, right it's empty ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jan 2014 #40
Nosferatu!! Beacool Jan 2014 #50
Someone took me to a run-down theater in the 70s that showed silents and had an organ player. El_Johns Jan 2014 #118
Mina Murray’s Journal: muriel_volestrangler Jan 2014 #58
see, this is why DU rules. BlancheSplanchnik Jan 2014 #73
This joint has some book learned people. Beacool Jan 2014 #95
^^ for the win!! ^^ Myrina Jan 2014 #61
Did we lose the recipe for tug boats? Kelvin Mace Jan 2014 #41
How do you get rats off an island? ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jan 2014 #42
Great idea for a horror movie! Lint Head Jan 2014 #43
Cooool....n/t PasadenaTrudy Jan 2014 #45
Time to release the kraken? nt sufrommich Jan 2014 #47
So Congress is on recess? mindwalker_i Jan 2014 #48
. . . Triana Jan 2014 #65
So how IS the National Review's annual cruise going this year? JHB Jan 2014 #57
You win the thread. Maybe even the internets. muriel_volestrangler Jan 2014 #60
^^^^^ ROTFL ^^^^ alittlelark Jan 2014 #68
lulz... Jesus Malverde Jan 2014 #122
Cannibal rats, they're not just in Trenton flamingdem Jan 2014 #63
LOL n/t lordsummerisle Jan 2014 #86
Damn. Now I feel terrible for the poor rats. Arugula Latte Jan 2014 #67
I do, too. Not that I want them to go ashore, but I hate seeing any animal suffer. TwilightGardener Jan 2014 #81
Yes ... Arugula Latte Jan 2014 #145
Must be The Ted Cruz line with his passengers of Teathugs. Let it sink. kairos12 Jan 2014 #69
FEAR!!! FEAR!!! FEAR!!! Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2014 #70
well..... spanone Jan 2014 #71
You gotta love the "Hair Guy/" (n/t) spin Jan 2014 #87
The survivor rat will be the next Republican Presidential nominee... hunter Jan 2014 #74
Nor any cheese to eat. WinkyDink Jan 2014 #76
Sounds like a Libertarian paradise... Jerry442 Jan 2014 #77
tee hee! flamingdem Jan 2014 #93
"Snakes on a cruise ship", staring Samuel L Jackson ?? JoePhilly Jan 2014 #78
thundership angrychair Jan 2014 #79
huh? I should think the salvage would be considerable.... mike_c Jan 2014 #82
Must be a record for DU.. pangaia Jan 2014 #83
such a waste dembotoz Jan 2014 #84
thanks for all the comments lordsummerisle Jan 2014 #85
me too … one of the best threads in a long time. shireen Jan 2014 #123
"Pardon me, would you have any Grey Poupon? Historic NY Jan 2014 #88
Ewww, too close. Beacool Jan 2014 #91
"Cannibal rats" is a trifle harsh. "Swiftian rodents," please. nyquil_man Jan 2014 #89
Are you the PR guy for the rats? Beacool Jan 2014 #97
Someone has to speak for these stateless creatures. nyquil_man Jan 2014 #98
Ummm.. How about sending out a few ships to attach tow lines, and then SoCalDem Jan 2014 #102
That is what I was thinking. texanwitch Jan 2014 #103
IIRC there was 2naSalit Jan 2014 #104
"Ahoy, me maties!" randome Jan 2014 #105
Sounds like the Nisshin Maru, only smaller. flvegan Jan 2014 #106
one torpedo AngryAmish Jan 2014 #107
If only... krispos42 Jan 2014 #108
WTF do you think this is? 1940? onehandle Jan 2014 #111
Ah... some nostalgia krispos42 Jan 2014 #117
This is a shameless ploy to deflect attention from the Bieber story pinboy3niner Jan 2014 #110
I can see this story in another SyFy channel movie Larkspur Jan 2014 #113
Subject win of the day...nt Jesus Malverde Jan 2014 #121
Did everyone miss the part where ManiacJoe Jan 2014 #125
That's just what the ghost ship cannibal rats want us to think. nt pinboy3niner Jan 2014 #126
Not Zombie rats, right? underpants Jan 2014 #131
You just have to remember that with zombie rats you double trap. nt pinboy3niner Jan 2014 #133
Blame Canada davidpdx Jan 2014 #132
We could have overlooked the cannibal rats, but did they have... pinboy3niner Jan 2014 #134
Sounds like delayed payback for centuries of British impirialism MrScorpio Jan 2014 #135
Scotland is ready for them pinboy3niner Jan 2014 #136
Kill it with fire. WilliamPitt Jan 2014 #137
Let's shoot it into space and aim it toward the sun. cbdo2007 Jan 2014 #140
"How many times have we told you, Manuel?!" randome Jan 2014 #141
We mustn't let the rats reach land! Those creatures, alien to our fair lands, would devour all!!! lumberjack_jeff Jan 2014 #142
Sounds like a job for Gilligan Lifelong Protester Jan 2014 #143
Ghost ship full of cannibal rats FrodosPet Jan 2014 #144

RiffRandell

(5,909 posts)
64. I so agree with you.
Thu Jan 23, 2014, 07:07 PM
Jan 2014

Imagine that! Can I get a biscuit? Pretty please? Or at LEAST a pat on the head. I mean, I'm not a bitter person, just a girl that likes to laugh at funny jokes.

Xithras

(16,191 posts)
101. Not exactly true.
Thu Jan 23, 2014, 09:20 PM
Jan 2014

Ships are stripped of pollutants when they are deliberately sunk to form artificial reefs, but when ships are a hazard to safety or navigation they'll usually just send it straight to the bottom without worrying about it.

The U.S. Coast Guard just sank a ship off the coast of Alaska last year that had been adrift since the Japanese tsunami. The ship was far too dangerous to board or tow, so they sent it to the bottom with a few artillery shells.

 

cherokeeprogressive

(24,853 posts)
112. A ship, or a boat?
Thu Jan 23, 2014, 10:27 PM
Jan 2014

This thing could be towed to a dry dock, stripped, then towed back to sea and turned into an artificial reef.

As it is, it could have hundreds of thousands of gallons of fuel oil on board, thousands of pounds of asbestos considering when it was built, and who knows what else. I'd hate to say "It's just too much trouble" and sink it, thus ruining the ecosystem for dozens of miles in each direction.

Angleae

(4,484 posts)
124. The rats are covered by being below decks, there's no guarantee you get all of them or even most.
Fri Jan 24, 2014, 04:25 AM
Jan 2014

The only guaranteed way of doing it is sinking the boat out in open water.

Xithras

(16,191 posts)
139. Boats and ships have sank for thousands of years.
Fri Jan 24, 2014, 01:52 PM
Jan 2014

Asbestos is a natural substance that is harmful to air-breathing creatures with lungs. It isn't going to harm the fish. As for fuel, the ship was being towed when it was lost, so it's extremely unlikely that it had much fuel on board. The two real environmental dangers from a ship this size are going to be PCB's and lead paint, and neither of those are going to be much threat beyond the perimeter of the ship itself.

There are hundreds of thousands of boats and ships littering the worlds seafloors, including modern cargo ships and pleasure vessels, more military ships than you can count, old steamers, and ancient triremes. For as long as we've been sailing, we've been sinking. One more isn't going to ruin the seafloor.

FWIW, the thinking is NOT that it's "too much trouble". Ships are sunk when they become dangers to navigation to REDUCE the chance of adding wrecks to the seafloor. If this thing drifts into a shipping lane and strikes another vessel, there will be two wrecks on the seafloor instead of one. While "cannibal rats" makes a great headline, the real reason for wanting to sink it has to do with protecting ship traffic.

AsahinaKimi

(20,776 posts)
66. Send it to DAVY JONE'S LOCKER...
Thu Jan 23, 2014, 07:12 PM
Jan 2014

Torpedo that sucker...lets see HOW long Rats swim, and Hello Sharks! Dinner time!

 

demwing

(16,916 posts)
115. I wonder if sharks can get rabies?
Thu Jan 23, 2014, 10:56 PM
Jan 2014

Rabies only affects warm blooded (homeothermic) animals, but while most sharks are poikilothermic, or cold blooded, Makos and Great Whites are very much homeothermic.

I can't imagine much that's more frightening than a rat infested, rabid Great White.

ananda

(28,864 posts)
128. Send the HMS Pinafore
Fri Jan 24, 2014, 05:39 AM
Jan 2014

And that kind of ship so suited they
That now they are the rulers of the Queen's Navay.

cthulu2016

(10,960 posts)
4. Maybe, maybe not. Cannibalism is not a stable ecosystem
Thu Jan 23, 2014, 05:21 PM
Jan 2014

It depends how much food they started out with.

Once all food was gone except rats I would expect extinction to follow pretty rapidly.

But since it has only been a year, who knows.

That said, if there is really no other source of calories the number of rats could not be large. The population of a cannibalism ecosystem would be constantly declining.

SCantiGOP

(13,871 posts)
36. sceenplay?
Thu Jan 23, 2014, 05:54 PM
Jan 2014

Are you proposing "Rats on a Ship" as a sequel to "Snakes on a Plane?' Brilliant, let me know if you need funding (I have a $22 million check being deposited any day from Nigeria.)

Beacool

(30,249 posts)
92. Better yet, make them zombie rats.
Thu Jan 23, 2014, 09:00 PM
Jan 2014

They are dead, yet they are not.

Be afraid, be very afraid..........






alarimer

(16,245 posts)
138. When has logic or science every stopped any other Hollywood screenwriter?
Fri Jan 24, 2014, 01:24 PM
Jan 2014

Every watch the X-Files?

 

Jenoch

(7,720 posts)
14. It depends on how much food they started out with
Thu Jan 23, 2014, 05:28 PM
Jan 2014

and how many rats there were when the food ran out. The gestation period for a rat pregnancy is 22 days. I wonder how long after the litter is born before the mother eats the last of the litter?

cthulu2016

(10,960 posts)
18. One thing we know is that the calories in the young
Thu Jan 23, 2014, 05:32 PM
Jan 2014

are much less than the calories taken in by mom during the pregnancy.

Without sunlight at the bottom of the food chain there's no free lunch.

CrawlingChaos

(1,893 posts)
12. It will probably be on SyFy Channel by next week
Thu Jan 23, 2014, 05:25 PM
Jan 2014

Tara Reid can play a leading scientist.

(I like your casting idea of Dean Cain, although the project may be too classy for him)

chrisa

(4,524 posts)
15. They could always see if Erik Estrada is busy. This might be his type of movie.
Thu Jan 23, 2014, 05:28 PM
Jan 2014

This is, of course, with 'cameo' appearances by Tiffany and Steven Baldwin.

jmowreader

(50,559 posts)
109. The only pair that can possibly do this justice are Trey Parker and Matt Stone
Thu Jan 23, 2014, 10:16 PM
Jan 2014

With such wonderful songs in their repertoire as...



and



and



there's no doubt they could do justice to cannibal rats.
 

randome

(34,845 posts)
9. As Judy Collins once sang: "Send in the drones."
Thu Jan 23, 2014, 05:25 PM
Jan 2014

[hr][font color="blue"][center]"There is a crack in everything. That's how the light gets in."
Leonard Cohen, Anthem (1992)
[/center][/font][hr]

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
38. That is what I was thinking. This could be one of those old movies all we need is to have the ship
Thu Jan 23, 2014, 05:56 PM
Jan 2014

land and the rats to overrun England, a gorgeous female heroine and the brave but handsome hero. The plot has been in dozens of movies already.

onehandle

(51,122 posts)
16. When I was a kid, I thought that the 'Flying Dutchman' was probably real.
Thu Jan 23, 2014, 05:29 PM
Jan 2014

Didn't creep me out, but the Tooth Fairy did.

Blue Idaho

(5,049 posts)
23. Ghost ship with cannibal rats?
Thu Jan 23, 2014, 05:42 PM
Jan 2014

I think i saw them in concert once but I was soooooooo stoned I don't remember much.

Hassin Bin Sober

(26,330 posts)
25. You would think someone would want to scrap it.
Thu Jan 23, 2014, 05:45 PM
Jan 2014

It's free for the taking? Yes? Law of the sea and all that.

X_Digger

(18,585 posts)
27. Imagine passing her in the atlantic.. adrift.. abandoned.. empty..
Thu Jan 23, 2014, 05:47 PM
Jan 2014

And all you hear is the patter and squeak of rats..

*shiver*

Beacool

(30,249 posts)
44. They'll probably look like this.
Thu Jan 23, 2014, 06:07 PM
Jan 2014




BTW, those are "cui" (guinea pigs), eaten by people in the "Sierras" of Ecuador.

Beacool

(30,249 posts)
90. They gross me out just looking at them.
Thu Jan 23, 2014, 08:56 PM
Jan 2014

Maybe if they didn't have the head and feet, they wouldn't look so rat like.





Beacool

(30,249 posts)
50. Nosferatu!!
Thu Jan 23, 2014, 06:18 PM
Jan 2014

That would really scare the panties right off me.



In the neighboring town to mine there's a wonderful movie theater that only shows old movies. It's one of the Loew's palaces. This one was built in 1929. On Halloween in 2007 they showed the silent film "Nosferatu". When he appeared onscreen, some wag yelled out "Look, it's Giuliani". LOL!!!

 

El_Johns

(1,805 posts)
118. Someone took me to a run-down theater in the 70s that showed silents and had an organ player.
Fri Jan 24, 2014, 01:32 AM
Jan 2014

He was one of the "regulars". I wish I could remember where it was in Seattle, it was the weirdest place.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,320 posts)
58. Mina Murray’s Journal:
Thu Jan 23, 2014, 06:47 PM
Jan 2014
I was glad when the coastguard came along, with his spy-glass under his arm. He stopped to talk with me, as he always does, but all the time kept looking at a strange ship.

“I can’t make her out,” he said; “she’s a Russian, by the look of her; but she’s knocking about in the queerest way. She doesn’t know her mind a bit; she seems to see the storm coming, but can’t decide whether to run up north in the open, or to put in here. Look there again! She is steered mighty strangely, for she doesn’t mind the hand on the wheel; changes about with every puff of wind. We’ll hear more of her before this time to-morrow.”

CHAPTER VII

CUTTING FROM “THE DAILYGRAPH,” 8 AUGUST

(Pasted in Mina Murray’s Journal.)

From a Correspondent.

...
Before long the searchlight discovered some distance away a schooner with all sails set, apparently the same vessel which had been noticed earlier in the evening. The wind had by this time backed to the east, and there was a shudder amongst the watchers on the cliff as they realized the terrible danger in which she now was. Between her and the port lay the great flat reef on which so many good ships have from time to time suffered, and, with the wind blowing from its present quarter, it would be quite impossible that she should fetch the entrance of the harbour. It was now nearly the hour of high tide, but the waves were so great that in their troughs the shallows of the shore were almost visible, and the schooner, with all sails set, was rushing with such speed that, in the words of one old salt, “she must fetch up somewhere, if it was only in hell.” Then came another rush of sea-fog, greater than any hitherto—a mass of dank mist, which seemed to close on all things like a grey pall, and left available to men only the organ of hearing, for the roar of the tempest, and the crash of the thunder, and the booming of the mighty billows came through the damp oblivion even louder than before. The rays of the searchlight were kept fixed on the harbour mouth across the East Pier, where the shock was expected, and men waited breathless. The wind suddenly shifted to the north-east, and the remnant of the sea-fog melted in the blast; and then, mirabile dictu, between the piers, leaping from wave to wave as it rushed at headlong speed, swept the strange schooner before the blast, with all sail set, and gained the safety of the harbour. The searchlight followed her, and a shudder ran through all who saw her, for lashed to the helm was a corpse, with drooping head, which swung horribly to and fro at each motion of the ship. No other form could be seen on deck at all. A great awe came on all as they realised that the ship, as if by a miracle, had found the harbour, unsteered save by the hand of a dead man! However, all took place more quickly than it takes to write these words. The schooner paused not, but rushing across the harbour, pitched herself on that accumulation of sand and gravel washed by many tides and many storms into the south-east corner of the pier jutting under the East Cliff, known locally as Tate Hill Pier.
...
It so happened that there was no one at the moment on Tate Hill Pier, as all those whose houses are in close proximity were either in bed or were out on the heights above. Thus the coastguard on duty on the eastern side of the harbour, who at once ran down to the little pier, was the first to climb on board. The men working the searchlight, after scouring the entrance of the harbour without seeing anything, then turned the light on the derelict and kept it there. The coastguard ran aft, and when he came beside the wheel, bent over to examine it, and recoiled at once as though under some sudden emotion. This seemed to pique general curiosity, and quite a number of people began to run. It is a good way round from the West Cliff by the Drawbridge to Tate Hill Pier, but your correspondent is a fairly good runner, and came well ahead of the crowd. When I arrived, however, I found already assembled on the pier a crowd, whom the coastguard and police refused to allow to come on board. By the courtesy of the chief boatman, I was, as your correspondent, permitted to climb on deck, and was one of a small group who saw the dead seaman whilst actually lashed to the wheel.

It was no wonder that the coastguard was surprised, or even awed, for not often can such a sight have been seen. The man was simply fastened by his hands, tied one over the other, to a spoke of the wheel. Between the inner hand and the wood was a crucifix, the set of beads on which it was fastened being around both wrists and wheel, and all kept fast by the binding cords. The poor fellow may have been seated at one time, but the flapping and buffeting of the sails had worked through the rudder of the wheel and dragged him to and fro, so that the cords with which he was tied had cut the flesh to the bone. Accurate note was made of the state of things, and a doctor—Surgeon J. M. Caffyn, of 33, East Elliot Place—who came immediately after me, declared, after making examination, that the man must have been dead for quite two days. In his pocket was a bottle, carefully corked, empty save for a little roll of paper, which proved to be the addendum to the log. The coastguard said the man must have tied up his own hands, fastening the knots with his teeth. The fact that a coastguard was the first on board may save some complications, later on, in the Admiralty Court; for coastguards cannot claim the salvage which is the right of the first civilian entering on a derelict. Already, however, the legal tongues are wagging, and one young law student is loudly asserting that the rights of the owner are already completely sacrificed, his property being held in contravention of the statutes of mortmain, since the tiller, as emblemship, if not proof, of delegated possession, is held in a dead hand. It is needless to say that the dead steersman has been reverently removed from the place where he held his honourable watch and ward till death—a steadfastness as noble as that of the young Casabianca—and placed in the mortuary to await inquest.
...
9 August.—The sequel to the strange arrival of the derelict in the storm last night is almost more startling than the thing itself. It turns out that the schooner is a Russian from Varna, and is called the Demeter. She is almost entirely in ballast of silver sand, with only a small amount of cargo—a number of great wooden boxes filled with mould. This cargo was consigned to a Whitby solicitor, Mr. S. F. Billington, of 7, The Crescent, who this morning went aboard and formally took possession of the goods consigned to him. The Russian consul, too, acting for the charter-party, took formal possession of the ship, and paid all harbour dues, etc. Nothing is talked about here to-day except the strange coincidence; the officials of the Board of Trade have been most exacting in seeing that every compliance has been made with existing regulations. As the matter is to be a “nine days’ wonder,” they are evidently determined that there shall be no cause of after complaint. A good deal of interest was abroad concerning the dog which landed when the ship struck, and more than a few of the members of the S. P. C. A., which is very strong in Whitby, have tried to befriend the animal. To the general disappointment, however, it was not to be found; it seems to have disappeared entirely from the town. It may be that it was frightened and made its way on to the moors, where it is still hiding in terror. There are some who look with dread on such a possibility, lest later on it should in itself become a danger, for it is evidently a fierce brute. Early this morning a large dog, a half-bred mastiff belonging to a coal merchant close to Tate Hill Pier, was found dead in the roadway opposite to its master’s yard. It had been fighting, and manifestly had had a savage opponent, for its throat was torn away, and its belly was slit open as if with a savage claw.
...
The morning was quickening in the east when we emerged from the front. Dr. Van Helsing had taken the key of the hall-door from the bunch, and locked the door in orthodox fashion, putting the key into his pocket when he had done.

“So far,” he said, “our night has been eminently successful. No harm has come to us such as I feared might be and yet we have ascertained how many boxes are missing. More than all do I rejoice that this, our first—and perhaps our most difficult and dangerous—step has been accomplished without the bringing thereinto our most sweet Madam Mina or troubling her waking or sleeping thoughts with sights and sounds and smells of horror which she might never forget. One lesson, too, we have learned, if it be allowable to argue a particulari: that the brute beasts which are to the Count’s command are yet themselves not amenable to his spiritual power; for look, these rats that would come to his call, just as from his castle top he summon the wolves to your going and to that poor mother’s cry, though they come to him, they run pell-mell from the so little dogs of my friend Arthur. ...

http://www.gutenberg.org/files/345/345-h/345-h.htm

JHB

(37,160 posts)
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Thu Jan 23, 2014, 06:45 PM
Jan 2014
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hunter

(38,315 posts)
74. The survivor rat will be the next Republican Presidential nominee...
Thu Jan 23, 2014, 07:35 PM
Jan 2014

... or the CEO of a very large multi-national corporation.

angrychair

(8,699 posts)
79. thundership
Thu Jan 23, 2014, 07:57 PM
Jan 2014

100 rats enter...one rat leaves.
100 rats enter...one rat leaves!
100 rats enter...one rat leaves!!
100 rats enter...one rat leaves!!!


mike_c

(36,281 posts)
82. huh? I should think the salvage would be considerable....
Thu Jan 23, 2014, 08:21 PM
Jan 2014

She's afloat, and appears to be in way better condition than I'd expect (unless that's an old pic from when she was in service).

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
83. Must be a record for DU..
Thu Jan 23, 2014, 08:22 PM
Jan 2014

"Klansman trying to build an anti-Muslim X-ray cannon"
and a "Ghost Ship Full of Cannibal Rats"

on the same day!!


SoCalDem

(103,856 posts)
102. Ummm.. How about sending out a few ships to attach tow lines, and then
Thu Jan 23, 2014, 09:31 PM
Jan 2014

"bagging" it for fumigation?

Sounds like a better idea than just letting it drift until it crashes..

It must be a helluva a ship to self-navigate for so damned long, and stay afloat...

Imagine how it must smell

texanwitch

(18,705 posts)
103. That is what I was thinking.
Thu Jan 23, 2014, 09:46 PM
Jan 2014

Just throw in some rat poison or something.

I am going to thinking about those rats for a long time.

Put the poor things out of their misery.

2naSalit

(86,636 posts)
104. IIRC there was
Thu Jan 23, 2014, 09:53 PM
Jan 2014

an article about this ship a few months ago claiming it had already sunk... guess not!

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
105. "Ahoy, me maties!"
Thu Jan 23, 2014, 09:58 PM
Jan 2014

[hr][font color="blue"][center]"There is a crack in everything. That's how the light gets in."
Leonard Cohen, Anthem (1992)
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krispos42

(49,445 posts)
108. If only...
Thu Jan 23, 2014, 10:11 PM
Jan 2014

...Britain had some sort of long range detection capability, and some sort of long-range craft that can accurately deploy destructive force to sink the vessel.


Somebody should work on that.

krispos42

(49,445 posts)
117. Ah... some nostalgia
Fri Jan 24, 2014, 01:01 AM
Jan 2014

A destroyer squadron hunting the high seas for a hazard to navigation, a small passenger liner adrift in the North Atlantic shipping lanes. Plowing through the gray rolling waves, the swift, lean destroyers search for their prey. Lookouts on the bridge wings scanning the horizon with binoculars while salt spray periodically breaks over the bow.

Then, a dark spot on the horizon! The agile destroyer turns sharply and puts on speed, slicing through the water as black smoke streams out of the stacks. The dark spot moves aimlessly, making no effort to escape or attack. The captain orders the signalman to issue a challenge; an Aldis lamp flutters repeatedly as dits and dahs flow across the sullen sea.

With no response forthcoming, the captain orders action stations, and the destroyer echoes with alarms and footsteps as the crew prepares for battle.

Finally, the dark spot resolves into the derelict vessel. One of the destroyer's guns firing a warning shot; a spout of water appears a couple of hundred yards to the side of the derelict, and a distant "crack" of explosion is heard by the anti-aircraft crews.

With no reply forthcoming, no signs of life, and the potential for attack from a lurking German submarine, the captain orders "put her on the bottom smartly". The destroyer heals sharply and changes course by 45 degrees, bringing the rear turret into play.

At the captain's command, the three turrets opened up on the derelict. The battle-hardened crews sweating and swearing in their steel shells pumped round after round at the abandoned ship. Six long-barreled naval rifles pounded away, raising waterspouts all around the ship.

A 4.7" shell hits, sending debris flying in to the air. "B" turret has the range now, and a second shell detonates inside the stricken vessel seconds later. The flurry of shell spouts is tightening around the doomed ship. "X" turret finds the range, slamming a round through the forecastle that splits open the deck plates.

More shells pound home as all three turrets start scoring hits. The fifty-pound shells tear great chunks out of the superstructure and rip hull plates off. One of them kindles a fire from a ruptured fuel tank, and thick oily smoke joins the gray puffs of detonating high-explosives in obscuring the doomed vessel.

The empty ship is riding lower in the water now as cold, gray seawater gushed through ruptured seams and into the bilges. Rats and cockroaches, the only occupants of the liner, swarmed in the rising waters, desperately seeking safely in a hailstorm of shell fragments and steel splinters. Rodent corpses sloshed, killed by the shock waves of the 4.7-inch shells.

There was no safety to be found, though, as the structure of the ship, compromised by multiple explosive blasts, began to lose cohesion. Riding low in the water, she began to list, her upper works tilting towards the rapidly approaching destroyer. The gunnery crews continued to fire as fast as possible, inter-turret rivalry pushing each crew to challenge the nominal firing rate of 10 rounds per minute, per gun.

Finally, though, the captain ordered his crews to cease fire, and only a couple of minutes later the gunfire-ravaged wreck slid under the waves a final time. The destroyer's captain secured the ship from action stations, the quartermaster marked the location in the log, and the turret crews, hot, sweaty, and partially deaf, began the job of cleaning up the spent shell casings and swabbing out the naval rifles.

The destroyer swept past the small oil slick and debris field that, for a few hours, would be the last marker of the lost sea. Turning north-east, the sleek warship resumed combat patrol.

 

Larkspur

(12,804 posts)
113. I can see this story in another SyFy channel movie
Thu Jan 23, 2014, 10:41 PM
Jan 2014

cannibal rats vs Lake Placid Crocs! Who'd win?

ManiacJoe

(10,136 posts)
125. Did everyone miss the part where
Fri Jan 24, 2014, 05:08 AM
Jan 2014

no one has actually seen the ship, nor can anyone confirm that it is still afloat?

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
134. We could have overlooked the cannibal rats, but did they have...
Fri Jan 24, 2014, 09:08 AM
Jan 2014

...to be dressed in those damn hockey outfits? That was the last straw.

O, Canada--now it's ON!

MrScorpio

(73,631 posts)
135. Sounds like delayed payback for centuries of British impirialism
Fri Jan 24, 2014, 12:53 PM
Jan 2014

Why can't they drain it of fuel on turn it into an artificial reef?

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
141. "How many times have we told you, Manuel?!"
Fri Jan 24, 2014, 02:01 PM
Jan 2014

[hr][font color="blue"][center]“If you're not committed to anything, you're just taking up space.”
Gregory Peck, Mirage (1965)
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lumberjack_jeff

(33,224 posts)
142. We mustn't let the rats reach land! Those creatures, alien to our fair lands, would devour all!!!
Fri Jan 24, 2014, 02:02 PM
Jan 2014

slow news day.

If weather permits, hook a new tow to it and haul it to be scrapped.

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