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Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
Thu Jan 23, 2014, 11:36 PM Jan 2014

What do you consider morally acceptable U.S. responses to the situation in Ukraine?

Last edited Fri Jan 24, 2014, 12:07 AM - Edit history (1)


3 votes, 0 passes | Time left: Unlimited
Anything, including nuclear war
1 (33%)
The use of conventional weapons and the deployment of NATO/US ground forces
0 (0%)
Any form of rhetoric, even if it caused options #2 or #1, and tying it into great power rivalry
0 (0%)
Clear condemnation, but without tying it into great power rivalry
0 (0%)
Other
2 (67%)
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What do you consider morally acceptable U.S. responses to the situation in Ukraine? (Original Post) Ken Burch Jan 2014 OP
We should invade Venezuela. Warren Stupidity Jan 2014 #1
By whom? stevil Jan 2014 #2
I was thinking the same thing. Adrahil Jan 2014 #4
I meant U.S. responses...have now edited the thread title. Sorry for the confusion. Ken Burch Jan 2014 #6
Stay out of it. stevil Jan 2014 #11
Considering it's none of our business ... 1000words Jan 2014 #3
The poll would be better in my opinion if ZombieHorde Jan 2014 #5
Russians and the half of Ukrainians that are allied with them. n/t. Ken Burch Jan 2014 #7
Also stevil Jan 2014 #9
You replied while I posted this. stevil Jan 2014 #10
I suggest we stay out of it -- for once. Blue_In_AK Jan 2014 #8
"morally acceptable" and US in the same sentence? Absurd. solarhydrocan Jan 2014 #12
 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
4. I was thinking the same thing.
Thu Jan 23, 2014, 11:54 PM
Jan 2014

I mean, a long as it remains an internal struggle, I don't think we should offer more than moral support. If the Russians invade? Whole new ball game.

solarhydrocan

(551 posts)
12. "morally acceptable" and US in the same sentence? Absurd.
Fri Jan 24, 2014, 12:57 AM
Jan 2014




The United States has been involved in and assisted in the overthrow of foreign governments (more recently termed "regime change&quot without the overt use of U.S. military force. Often, such operations are tasked to the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA).

Regime change has been attempted through direct involvement of U.S. operatives, the funding and training of insurgency groups within these countries, anti-regime propaganda campaigns, coups d'état, and other activities usually conducted as operations by the CIA. The United States has also accomplished regime change by direct military action, such as following the U.S. invasion of Panama in 1989 and the U.S.-led military invasion of Iraq in 2003.

Examples:

2 During the Cold War

2.1 Communist states 1944–89
2.2 Syria 1949
2.3 Iran 1953
2.4 Guatemala 1954
2.5 Tibet 1955–70s
2.6 Indonesia 1958
2.7 Cuba 1959
2.8 Democratic Republic of the Congo 1960–65
2.9 Iraq 1960–63
2.10 Dominican Republic 1961
2.11 South Vietnam 1963
2.12 Brazil 1964
2.13 Ghana 1966
2.14 Chile 1970–73
2.15 Argentina 1976
2.16 Afghanistan 1979–89
2.17 Turkey 1980
2.18 Poland 1980–81
2.19 Nicaragua 1981–90
2.19.1 Destablization through CIA assets
2.19.2 Arming the Contras
2.20 Cambodia 1980–95
2.21 Angola 1980s
2.22 Philippines 1986

3 Since the end of the Cold War

3.1 Iraq 1992–96
3.2 Afghanistan 2001
3.3 Venezuela 2002
3.4 Iraq 2002–03
3.5 Haiti 2004
3.6 Gaza Strip 2006–present
3.7 Somalia 2006–07
3.8 Iran 2005–present
3.9 Libya 2011
3.10 Syria 2012–present


How about setting an example and fixing the US before wondering how to get even further involved in other countries? To say nothing of the fact that the US is not only broke, but in debt.

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