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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/01/25/michele-leonhart-obama_n_4666606.html
The head of the Drug Enforcement Administration slammed President Barack Obama this week for saying marijuana is no more harmful than alcohol, according to a report Saturday in the Boston Herald.
DEA Administrator Michele M. Leonhart reportedly told a group of sheriffs at a closed-door conference in Washington that she was frustrated by the administration's recent openness toward state legalization. Although Leonhart's remarks were not made publicly, her pointed references to the president could put her job in jeopardy.
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The administration so far has shown itself willing to let Colorado's and Washington's experiments with marijuana legalization move ahead. But those baby steps toward respecting state legislation appear to have sewn dissension at the DEA.
Leonhart, a former Baltimore cop and long-time DEA agent before ascending to the agency's top role, staunchly opposes mainstreaming marijuana use. In 2012 House Judiciary testimony, she refused to answer a question from Colorado Rep. Jared Polis (D) about whether she thought crack or heroin were worse for a person's health than marijuana. She said in December that legalization sends "mixed messages" to high-schoolers, and this month, one of her top deputies told Congress that legalization is "reckless and irresponsible."
Time to cut this long time drug warrior loose
arely staircase
(12,482 posts)Matariki
(18,775 posts)arcane1
(38,613 posts)How many beer commercials do high-schoolers see every week?
Major Nikon
(36,827 posts)Then when they inevitably find out the truth they never believe anything else you say.
ohheckyeah
(9,314 posts)DEA jobs aren't as secure with no marijuana busts to make or as financially well-to-do with no seizures of money to be made.
Legalizing marijuana use for adults isn't sending mixed messages to high-schoolers....hell, many of them smoke it now, and it won't be made legal for teenagers.
spin
(17,493 posts)WhiteTara
(29,705 posts)Now there is a killer. And the incoming zombie drug.
Politicalboi
(15,189 posts)And dangerous compared to pot heads. Someone could get hurt, and it could be a DEA agent instead of grandma being in the wrong place at the wrong time. Her own home.
WhiteTara
(29,705 posts)and you are so right. They are crazy.
I think that meth is the drug of the hopeless. While cannabis is the herb of the seeker as it has the tendency to turn your gaze inward, meth takes you completely out of your body and your mind. The bath salts thing is so horrific that the user loses all touch with humanity and is no longer a sentient being. Meth is so close to that.
What a terrible way to die; your skin turning into pustules of stinking ooze or having your skin fall off your body with your only thought wanting more of the drug.
If we could have something more than the horrible present/future the 1% has laid out for us, I don't think meth could get a foothold.
Dawson Leery
(19,348 posts)DEA agents are parasites.
defacto7
(13,485 posts)she met with a group of sheriffs behind closed-doors. Sheriffs and DEA agents can't ever be seen talking their talk in a public forum. It would be too.... public. The public should never be confused by their more advanced drug ideology, because then the DEA would have to face the facts. Nope, can't do that.
Dawson Leery
(19,348 posts)2:1 to rid ourselves of that corrupt system back in 2000.
liberal_at_heart
(12,081 posts)lowest priority. Instead more people have been arrested under the Obama administration than under Bush. He says one thing and then hires people that do the exact opposite of what he says.
1000words
(7,051 posts)No one is taking a courageous stand, just trying to please everyone.
arely staircase
(12,482 posts)Say what?
"A DEA spokeswoman contacted by the Herald did not comment on Leonhart's remarks, but reiterated the agency's opposition to legalization. She did not immediately respond to a request for comment from HuffPost."
Since when is an agency allowed to set its own or have a policy independent of the Chief Executive.
1000words
(7,051 posts)spin
(17,493 posts)That will change if and when a few NSA executives end up in prison.
alcibiades_mystery
(36,437 posts)You don't bad mouth your boss to outsiders (and get caught). Period.
rurallib
(62,411 posts)locking up high school and college kids - that pays her mortgage.
Cha
(297,196 posts)those who whine otherwise.
hunter
(38,311 posts)This could harm their funding.
WorseBeforeBetter
(11,441 posts)And I'm not even high. Unfortunately!
Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)defacto7
(13,485 posts)mike_c
(36,281 posts)BTW, it's time to step away from the computer and fire one up.
DisgustipatedinCA
(12,530 posts)But yes, and more importantly, fire her now and do it publicly.
DisgustipatedinCA
(12,530 posts)We can no longer justify your existence.
Shampoobra
(423 posts)You are fighting to keep drugs illegal. The illegality of drugs is a benefit to organized crime. You're working for them, and you're a major contributor to America's drug problem.
farmbo
(3,121 posts)And they give their CF table scraps to local law enforcement to make them happy drug warriors too.
No one in law enforcement wants to derail that gravy train.
Spider Jerusalem
(21,786 posts)and this is why people don't take the "war on drugs" seriously, when you have the nation's top drug warrior denying all the evidence to say "no, weed is worse than booze, and maybe even as bad as smack!", why would anyone take her seriously?
Harmony Blue
(3,978 posts)the denial stage is in full gear. Next they will fight but then we as citizens we win.
Blue_In_AK
(46,436 posts)It's her livelihood, after all.
frylock
(34,825 posts)Ed Suspicious
(8,879 posts)be unbiased. They have an inherent conflict of interest when speaking on matters of drug legality. I for one wish they, in their professional capacity, would shut the fuck up.
bananas
(27,509 posts)I didn't know that!
Wow!
spanone
(135,830 posts)there's HUGE money in the drug war, they will not go away quietly
RainDog
(28,784 posts)She's a worthless, evasive, lying pos Bush appointee. I hope she resigns soon. Then she can join Andrea Barthwell, former Deputy Drug Czar, lobbying for big pharma marijuana and trying to keep the same illegal for everyone else.
LOL. 3rd time this week I've posted the wrong link in the wrong place. proofread is my friend.
loudsue
(14,087 posts)I don't trust 90% of the DEA officers anymore, since I've known too many people who have known too many officers.
Nevernose
(13,081 posts)That claimed two out of three DEA agents were corrupt, and that was a DOJ report.
The nature of that job is, on and of itself, corrupt. How do they prevent people from buying, selling, and consuming substances they don't agree with? By buying, selling, and consuming those substances (undercovers), or by getting other people to buy, sell, and consume said substances (informants).
We could end the expensive, destructive, fruitless drug war tomorrow by simply not directing our resources to finding drugs. Heroin would still be illegal if the police found it; they just wouldn't go looking for it. Way less destruction in our communities.
loudsue
(14,087 posts)++++1,000,000. It's time we put the drug war in the rear view mirror.
unhappycamper
(60,364 posts)I'm sure booze has killed MANY more people than pot.
AFAIK, nobody has ODed on pot.
(The Boston Herald is a right-wing rag.)
Scuba
(53,475 posts)Savannahmann
(3,891 posts)I'm not sure of the current numbers, but according to this report from the DEA their plan to reduce Crystal Meth by making it ten times harder for the cold and allergy sufferers to find relief and prosecute people for buying two boxes at once (horrors) because their husband and daughter were sick at the same time (how dare they) hasn't really done anything to reduce the production of the hated drug.
http://www.fas.org/irp/agency/doj/dea/product/meth/threat.htm
In fact, according to that report, Meth production has increased 518%. That may be one of the few statistics that is growing faster than CEO paychecks.
B Calm
(28,762 posts)You fall in two different groups if you want to keep it illegal, one who profits or just fucking ignorant!
ProSense
(116,464 posts)"DEA head doesn't like what Obama said about marijuana"
...does she have to say about the policy shift announced by Holder?
U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder announced today that the Obama administration will issue guidance allowing banks to serve state-legal marijuana businesses. The legal cannabis industry is projected to produce $2.7B in revenue in 2014, but is currently forced to operate almost entirely in cash.
The National Cannabis Industry Association (NCIA) today applauded remarks from U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder, announcing imminent guidance from the Obama Administration to allow financial institutions to serve state-legal marijuana businesses. ["Holder: Feds to let banks handle pot money." Politico, 1/23/2014]
For the legal, regulated cannabis industry, this is very welcome news, said NCIA executive director Aaron Smith. We have been anxiously awaiting clarity on the banking issue from the Justice and Treasury Departments for many months. To hear that guidance will be issued 'very soon' is encouraging. Its critical that we fix this issue before February 20, when our Colorado members must pay their first round of state taxes, or the Colorado Department of Revenue may be forced to accept more than $1 million in cash payments.
Were grateful to Attorney General Holder and other federal officials who have been working to resolve this crisis. The safety of our members is threatened by the current lack of banking access and this resolution cannot come soon enough."
In the absence of guidance from federal enforcers, most financial institutions have been unwilling to provide even the most basic banking services, such as checking and savings accounts, to medical or adult-use marijuana businesses. This forces state-authorized cannabis businesses to handle their financial transactions, including sales, payroll, taxes, and licensing fees, entirely in cash. The latest projections from industry analysis firm Arcview Market Research indicate that the legal cannabis industry will add $2.7 billion to the American economy in 2014.
http://www.prweb.com/releases/2014/01/prweb11519014.htm
ananda
(28,858 posts)..
Lex
(34,108 posts)it's job security
tabasco
(22,974 posts)She is clearly unqualified for such an important post.
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JustABozoOnThisBus
(23,339 posts)... she'll have to investigate herself.
HarryAnslinger
(1 post)Please sign the petition asking President Obama to remove marijuana from the DEA's schedule of drugs:
http://www.change.org/petitions/president-barack-obama-if-marijuana-is-safer-than-alcohol-remove-it-from-the-dea-s-schedule-of-drugs
The DEA is entrenched in their position against marijuana. Time to remove their authority over marijuana entirely.
RainDog
(28,784 posts)Thanks for posting that petition. Hope all here who agree will sign.
I agree with Polis and Bluemenaur that cannabis should be overseen by AFT, not the DEA.
Warpy
(111,255 posts)but don't expect us to thank you for the last, hideous century of misplaced prohibition.
You'd have done far better to restrict the use of antibiotics.
Warpy
(111,255 posts)Of course she'd be upset. The spectre of being declared superfluous and unemployed looms large. She'd rather insult the boss, however obliquely, than admit the drug war is based on a pack of lies, pushed forward a century ago by vicious racism.
ThomThom
(1,486 posts)No one I ever heard is advocating us by teens, in fact really controlling it like cigarettes and alcohol makes much more sense then the black market sell to anyone.