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NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
Sat Jan 25, 2014, 09:26 PM Jan 2014

DEA head doesn't like what Obama said about marijuana

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/01/25/michele-leonhart-obama_n_4666606.html


The head of the Drug Enforcement Administration slammed President Barack Obama this week for saying marijuana is no more harmful than alcohol, according to a report Saturday in the Boston Herald.

DEA Administrator Michele M. Leonhart reportedly told a group of sheriffs at a closed-door conference in Washington that she was frustrated by the administration's recent openness toward state legalization. Although Leonhart's remarks were not made publicly, her pointed references to the president could put her job in jeopardy.

<snip>

The administration so far has shown itself willing to let Colorado's and Washington's experiments with marijuana legalization move ahead. But those baby steps toward respecting state legislation appear to have sewn dissension at the DEA.

Leonhart, a former Baltimore cop and long-time DEA agent before ascending to the agency's top role, staunchly opposes mainstreaming marijuana use. In 2012 House Judiciary testimony, she refused to answer a question from Colorado Rep. Jared Polis (D) about whether she thought crack or heroin were worse for a person's health than marijuana. She said in December that legalization sends "mixed messages" to high-schoolers, and this month, one of her top deputies told Congress that legalization is "reckless and irresponsible."



Time to cut this long time drug warrior loose
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DEA head doesn't like what Obama said about marijuana (Original Post) NightWatcher Jan 2014 OP
she needs to spend more time with her family nt arely staircase Jan 2014 #1
+1 Matariki Jan 2014 #16
What a coward. 'Legalization sends "mixed messages" to high-schoolers' indeed. arcane1 Jan 2014 #2
The "mixed message" is lying to them about the dangers of drugs Major Nikon Jan 2014 #49
Of coure she opposes legalization... ohheckyeah Jan 2014 #3
Exactly! She loves her job security. (n/t) spin Jan 2014 #10
well, they could turn their attention to meth. WhiteTara Jan 2014 #15
But those people are crazy Politicalboi Jan 2014 #31
I almost said that WhiteTara Jan 2014 #42
DEA agents have served with great dishonor. Dawson Leery Jan 2014 #4
and of course defacto7 Jan 2014 #28
I have never voted for a sheriff and am glad we in Connecticut voted Dawson Leery Jan 2014 #50
Obama won't do a damn thing about it. He has stated that marijuana possession would be liberal_at_heart Jan 2014 #5
What else would she say to a roomful of sheriffs? 1000words Jan 2014 #6
"reiterated the agency's opposition to legalization" arely staircase Jan 2014 #7
According to some, the NSA has been doing it for some time. 1000words Jan 2014 #8
And you could add the NSA will continue to do so no matter what regulations are passed. ... spin Jan 2014 #12
She serves at the pleasure...Monday at 9:00 am would be a good time to get her letter on his desk alcibiades_mystery Jan 2014 #9
marijuana is her meal ticket - no time for common sense here rurallib Jan 2014 #11
Ha! I'm glad he said.. and too bad for Cha Jan 2014 #13
The price support team for approved drug gangsters has a sad. hunter Jan 2014 #14
"Sewn" dissension, eh? WorseBeforeBetter Jan 2014 #17
Part of a team of rivals no doubt n/t Fumesucker Jan 2014 #18
lol... defacto7 Jan 2014 #29
fire her... mike_c Jan 2014 #19
Take a tablet to the garage, and no need to step away. DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2014 #21
Michele Leonhart: collect your belongings and get the fuck out. DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2014 #20
Michele Leonhart, you are a drug lord Shampoobra Jan 2014 #22
With Civil Forfeitures running amok, the DEA has a virtual license to steal farmbo Jan 2014 #23
Less harmful than alcohol, if anything Spider Jerusalem Jan 2014 #24
Drug War is a failure Harmony Blue Jan 2014 #25
Of course she opposes legalization. Blue_In_AK Jan 2014 #26
marijuana is the DEA's sacred cash cow frylock Jan 2014 #27
The DEA are public servants who enforce laws. They don't fucking make them. Their opinion cannot Ed Suspicious Jan 2014 #30
They flew a hemp flag over the Capitol last July 4th? bananas Jan 2014 #32
he's protecting his phony baloney job spanone Jan 2014 #33
She wouldn't admit heroin or meth is worse than marijuana RainDog Jan 2014 #34
Michele must be making some money on the side. loudsue Jan 2014 #35
There was a government report in the early 90s Nevernose Jan 2014 #45
Copy that. loudsue Jan 2014 #55
If you compare the number of highway deaths caused by alcohol or pot unhappycamper Jan 2014 #36
Then she should resign, and if she won't, she should be axed. Scuba Jan 2014 #37
Is this the same DEA that said that reducing access to Psudophed would reduce Crystal Meth? Savannahmann Jan 2014 #38
She profits by keeping it illegal. B Calm Jan 2014 #39
She "slammed" his comments? What ProSense Jan 2014 #40
Actually, pot is less harmful than alcohol. ananda Jan 2014 #41
of course drug enforcement people are for as many drugs as possible being illegal Lex Jan 2014 #43
Then she's part of the problem and should be fired tabasco Jan 2014 #44
This message was self-deleted by its author Herself Jan 2014 #46
Don't call her the DEA "head" ... JustABozoOnThisBus Jan 2014 #47
Time to remove marijuana from the DEA's schedule of drugs HarryAnslinger Jan 2014 #48
Harry! Glad you've seen the light! :) RainDog Jan 2014 #51
Better late than never, Harry Warpy Jan 2014 #53
Her job depends in a large part on lies about drugs in general and pot in particular Warpy Jan 2014 #52
Why is it always about the kids? ThomThom Jan 2014 #54
 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
2. What a coward. 'Legalization sends "mixed messages" to high-schoolers' indeed.
Sat Jan 25, 2014, 09:29 PM
Jan 2014

How many beer commercials do high-schoolers see every week?

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
49. The "mixed message" is lying to them about the dangers of drugs
Sun Jan 26, 2014, 09:08 PM
Jan 2014

Then when they inevitably find out the truth they never believe anything else you say.

ohheckyeah

(9,314 posts)
3. Of coure she opposes legalization...
Sat Jan 25, 2014, 09:29 PM
Jan 2014

DEA jobs aren't as secure with no marijuana busts to make or as financially well-to-do with no seizures of money to be made.

Legalizing marijuana use for adults isn't sending mixed messages to high-schoolers....hell, many of them smoke it now, and it won't be made legal for teenagers.

WhiteTara

(29,705 posts)
15. well, they could turn their attention to meth.
Sat Jan 25, 2014, 10:37 PM
Jan 2014

Now there is a killer. And the incoming zombie drug.

 

Politicalboi

(15,189 posts)
31. But those people are crazy
Sun Jan 26, 2014, 01:44 AM
Jan 2014

And dangerous compared to pot heads. Someone could get hurt, and it could be a DEA agent instead of grandma being in the wrong place at the wrong time. Her own home.

WhiteTara

(29,705 posts)
42. I almost said that
Sun Jan 26, 2014, 12:39 PM
Jan 2014

and you are so right. They are crazy.

I think that meth is the drug of the hopeless. While cannabis is the herb of the seeker as it has the tendency to turn your gaze inward, meth takes you completely out of your body and your mind. The bath salts thing is so horrific that the user loses all touch with humanity and is no longer a sentient being. Meth is so close to that.

What a terrible way to die; your skin turning into pustules of stinking ooze or having your skin fall off your body with your only thought wanting more of the drug.

If we could have something more than the horrible present/future the 1% has laid out for us, I don't think meth could get a foothold.

defacto7

(13,485 posts)
28. and of course
Sun Jan 26, 2014, 01:30 AM
Jan 2014

she met with a group of sheriffs behind closed-doors. Sheriffs and DEA agents can't ever be seen talking their talk in a public forum. It would be too.... public. The public should never be confused by their more advanced drug ideology, because then the DEA would have to face the facts. Nope, can't do that.

Dawson Leery

(19,348 posts)
50. I have never voted for a sheriff and am glad we in Connecticut voted
Sun Jan 26, 2014, 10:54 PM
Jan 2014

2:1 to rid ourselves of that corrupt system back in 2000.

liberal_at_heart

(12,081 posts)
5. Obama won't do a damn thing about it. He has stated that marijuana possession would be
Sat Jan 25, 2014, 09:30 PM
Jan 2014

lowest priority. Instead more people have been arrested under the Obama administration than under Bush. He says one thing and then hires people that do the exact opposite of what he says.

 

1000words

(7,051 posts)
6. What else would she say to a roomful of sheriffs?
Sat Jan 25, 2014, 09:30 PM
Jan 2014

No one is taking a courageous stand, just trying to please everyone.

arely staircase

(12,482 posts)
7. "reiterated the agency's opposition to legalization"
Sat Jan 25, 2014, 09:34 PM
Jan 2014

Say what?

"A DEA spokeswoman contacted by the Herald did not comment on Leonhart's remarks, but reiterated the agency's opposition to legalization. She did not immediately respond to a request for comment from HuffPost."

Since when is an agency allowed to set its own or have a policy independent of the Chief Executive.

spin

(17,493 posts)
12. And you could add the NSA will continue to do so no matter what regulations are passed. ...
Sat Jan 25, 2014, 09:40 PM
Jan 2014

That will change if and when a few NSA executives end up in prison.

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
9. She serves at the pleasure...Monday at 9:00 am would be a good time to get her letter on his desk
Sat Jan 25, 2014, 09:37 PM
Jan 2014

You don't bad mouth your boss to outsiders (and get caught). Period.

rurallib

(62,411 posts)
11. marijuana is her meal ticket - no time for common sense here
Sat Jan 25, 2014, 09:39 PM
Jan 2014

locking up high school and college kids - that pays her mortgage.

 

DisgustipatedinCA

(12,530 posts)
21. Take a tablet to the garage, and no need to step away.
Sat Jan 25, 2014, 11:07 PM
Jan 2014

But yes, and more importantly, fire her now and do it publicly.

Shampoobra

(423 posts)
22. Michele Leonhart, you are a drug lord
Sun Jan 26, 2014, 12:07 AM
Jan 2014

You are fighting to keep drugs illegal. The illegality of drugs is a benefit to organized crime. You're working for them, and you're a major contributor to America's drug problem.

farmbo

(3,121 posts)
23. With Civil Forfeitures running amok, the DEA has a virtual license to steal
Sun Jan 26, 2014, 01:11 AM
Jan 2014

And they give their CF table scraps to local law enforcement to make them happy drug warriors too.

No one in law enforcement wants to derail that gravy train.

 

Spider Jerusalem

(21,786 posts)
24. Less harmful than alcohol, if anything
Sun Jan 26, 2014, 01:16 AM
Jan 2014

and this is why people don't take the "war on drugs" seriously, when you have the nation's top drug warrior denying all the evidence to say "no, weed is worse than booze, and maybe even as bad as smack!", why would anyone take her seriously?

Harmony Blue

(3,978 posts)
25. Drug War is a failure
Sun Jan 26, 2014, 01:17 AM
Jan 2014

the denial stage is in full gear. Next they will fight but then we as citizens we win.

Ed Suspicious

(8,879 posts)
30. The DEA are public servants who enforce laws. They don't fucking make them. Their opinion cannot
Sun Jan 26, 2014, 01:40 AM
Jan 2014

be unbiased. They have an inherent conflict of interest when speaking on matters of drug legality. I for one wish they, in their professional capacity, would shut the fuck up.

spanone

(135,830 posts)
33. he's protecting his phony baloney job
Sun Jan 26, 2014, 01:56 AM
Jan 2014

there's HUGE money in the drug war, they will not go away quietly

RainDog

(28,784 posts)
34. She wouldn't admit heroin or meth is worse than marijuana
Sun Jan 26, 2014, 01:57 AM
Jan 2014

She's a worthless, evasive, lying pos Bush appointee. I hope she resigns soon. Then she can join Andrea Barthwell, former Deputy Drug Czar, lobbying for big pharma marijuana and trying to keep the same illegal for everyone else.

LOL. 3rd time this week I've posted the wrong link in the wrong place. proofread is my friend.



loudsue

(14,087 posts)
35. Michele must be making some money on the side.
Sun Jan 26, 2014, 02:22 AM
Jan 2014

I don't trust 90% of the DEA officers anymore, since I've known too many people who have known too many officers.

Nevernose

(13,081 posts)
45. There was a government report in the early 90s
Sun Jan 26, 2014, 03:50 PM
Jan 2014

That claimed two out of three DEA agents were corrupt, and that was a DOJ report.

The nature of that job is, on and of itself, corrupt. How do they prevent people from buying, selling, and consuming substances they don't agree with? By buying, selling, and consuming those substances (undercovers), or by getting other people to buy, sell, and consume said substances (informants).

We could end the expensive, destructive, fruitless drug war tomorrow by simply not directing our resources to finding drugs. Heroin would still be illegal if the police found it; they just wouldn't go looking for it. Way less destruction in our communities.

unhappycamper

(60,364 posts)
36. If you compare the number of highway deaths caused by alcohol or pot
Sun Jan 26, 2014, 06:44 AM
Jan 2014

I'm sure booze has killed MANY more people than pot.

AFAIK, nobody has ODed on pot.

(The Boston Herald is a right-wing rag.)

 

Savannahmann

(3,891 posts)
38. Is this the same DEA that said that reducing access to Psudophed would reduce Crystal Meth?
Sun Jan 26, 2014, 10:51 AM
Jan 2014

I'm not sure of the current numbers, but according to this report from the DEA their plan to reduce Crystal Meth by making it ten times harder for the cold and allergy sufferers to find relief and prosecute people for buying two boxes at once (horrors) because their husband and daughter were sick at the same time (how dare they) hasn't really done anything to reduce the production of the hated drug.

http://www.fas.org/irp/agency/doj/dea/product/meth/threat.htm

In fact, according to that report, Meth production has increased 518%. That may be one of the few statistics that is growing faster than CEO paychecks.

 

B Calm

(28,762 posts)
39. She profits by keeping it illegal.
Sun Jan 26, 2014, 10:57 AM
Jan 2014

You fall in two different groups if you want to keep it illegal, one who profits or just fucking ignorant!

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
40. She "slammed" his comments? What
Sun Jan 26, 2014, 11:39 AM
Jan 2014

"DEA head doesn't like what Obama said about marijuana"

...does she have to say about the policy shift announced by Holder?

National Cannabis Industry Association Applauds Attorney General for Committing to a Banking Fix for Marijuana Businesses ‘Very Soon’

U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder announced today that the Obama administration will issue guidance allowing banks to serve state-legal marijuana businesses. The legal cannabis industry is projected to produce $2.7B in revenue in 2014, but is currently forced to operate almost entirely in cash.

The National Cannabis Industry Association (NCIA) today applauded remarks from U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder, announcing imminent guidance from the Obama Administration to allow financial institutions to serve state-legal marijuana businesses. ["Holder: Feds to let banks handle pot money." Politico, 1/23/2014]

“For the legal, regulated cannabis industry, this is very welcome news,” said NCIA executive director Aaron Smith. “We have been anxiously awaiting clarity on the banking issue from the Justice and Treasury Departments for many months. To hear that guidance will be issued 'very soon' is encouraging. It’s critical that we fix this issue before February 20, when our Colorado members must pay their first round of state taxes, or the Colorado Department of Revenue may be forced to accept more than $1 million in cash payments.

“We’re grateful to Attorney General Holder and other federal officials who have been working to resolve this crisis. The safety of our members is threatened by the current lack of banking access and this resolution cannot come soon enough."

In the absence of guidance from federal enforcers, most financial institutions have been unwilling to provide even the most basic banking services, such as checking and savings accounts, to medical or adult-use marijuana businesses. This forces state-authorized cannabis businesses to handle their financial transactions, including sales, payroll, taxes, and licensing fees, entirely in cash. The latest projections from industry analysis firm Arcview Market Research indicate that the legal cannabis industry will add $2.7 billion to the American economy in 2014.

http://www.prweb.com/releases/2014/01/prweb11519014.htm
 

tabasco

(22,974 posts)
44. Then she's part of the problem and should be fired
Sun Jan 26, 2014, 03:36 PM
Jan 2014

She is clearly unqualified for such an important post.

Response to NightWatcher (Original post)

48. Time to remove marijuana from the DEA's schedule of drugs
Sun Jan 26, 2014, 08:58 PM
Jan 2014

Please sign the petition asking President Obama to remove marijuana from the DEA's schedule of drugs:

http://www.change.org/petitions/president-barack-obama-if-marijuana-is-safer-than-alcohol-remove-it-from-the-dea-s-schedule-of-drugs

The DEA is entrenched in their position against marijuana. Time to remove their authority over marijuana entirely.

RainDog

(28,784 posts)
51. Harry! Glad you've seen the light! :)
Sun Jan 26, 2014, 10:56 PM
Jan 2014

Thanks for posting that petition. Hope all here who agree will sign.

I agree with Polis and Bluemenaur that cannabis should be overseen by AFT, not the DEA.

Warpy

(111,255 posts)
53. Better late than never, Harry
Sun Jan 26, 2014, 11:16 PM
Jan 2014

but don't expect us to thank you for the last, hideous century of misplaced prohibition.

You'd have done far better to restrict the use of antibiotics.

Warpy

(111,255 posts)
52. Her job depends in a large part on lies about drugs in general and pot in particular
Sun Jan 26, 2014, 11:14 PM
Jan 2014

Of course she'd be upset. The spectre of being declared superfluous and unemployed looms large. She'd rather insult the boss, however obliquely, than admit the drug war is based on a pack of lies, pushed forward a century ago by vicious racism.

ThomThom

(1,486 posts)
54. Why is it always about the kids?
Mon Jan 27, 2014, 12:03 AM
Jan 2014

No one I ever heard is advocating us by teens, in fact really controlling it like cigarettes and alcohol makes much more sense then the black market sell to anyone.

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