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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsCEO tells Daily Show ‘mentally retarded’ could work for $2: ‘You’re worth what you’re worth’
People dont go hungry in a capitalist economy, Schiff claimed.
Its socialism that creates, you know, scarcity, that creates famine, he said. In a free market, theres plenty of food for everybody especially the poor.
Schiff argued that eliminating the minimum wage law would allow more people entry to the workforce, and Bee asked him to identify someone whose work might be worth just $2 an hour.
You know someone that might be? Maybe someone who is whats the politically correct word, you know, for mentally retarded, Schiff said. I believe in the principles this country was founded on.
Im not going to say that were all created equal, he said. Youre worth what youre worth.
MORE:
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/01/29/ceo-tells-daily-show-mentally-retarded-could-work-for-2-youre-worth-what-youre-worth/
theHandpuppet
(19,964 posts)And this is one of those times I really wished I believed in karma.
kelliekat44
(7,759 posts)when it happens.
babylonsister
(171,065 posts)NuclearDem
(16,184 posts)think
(11,641 posts)hobbit709
(41,694 posts)dickthegrouch
(3,173 posts)cinnabonbon
(860 posts)demigoddess
(6,640 posts)from the mother of a retarded daughter
Initech
(100,069 posts)Fuck that guy.
City Lights
(25,171 posts)Solly Mack
(90,765 posts)DetlefK
(16,423 posts)"You are worth what you're worth."
Bankers work hard, don't misunderstand me, but their wages aren't calculated from what they are worth but from what they "feel" they "should" get paid. It's blown way out of proportion.
Why are top-rating european bankers worth 1 million per year and top-rating US-bankers are worth 10 million per year?
adirondacker
(2,921 posts)bullwinkle428
(20,629 posts)I dont really eat there, but they dont seem desperate and hungry to me. Theyre young kids, they seem to be enjoying themselves mostly.
I'm guessing he thinks that slaves were really happy because they sang songs all day, working in the fields picking cotton.
NaturalHigh
(12,778 posts)blogslut
(38,000 posts)hobbit709
(41,694 posts)siligut
(12,272 posts)http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Schiff
frylock
(34,825 posts)jwirr
(39,215 posts)nil desperandum
(654 posts)He helps people divest their holdings away from the dollar...great guy... really, just a wonderful humanitarian.
/sarc
jwirr
(39,215 posts)nil desperandum
(654 posts)People like Schiff don't go hungry certainly. Of course they don't produce anything either they just siphon off profits by moving money for investors, he's a parasite of immense proportion.
I understand clearly the concerns about the minimum wage from the business side increased cost always has an effect on final pricing structure, but it's people like Schiff who operate funding sources to help people take their money out of US firms that are a bigger problem. These people are traitors to the nation they live in, they think funding manufacturing in foreign nations for US companies and free trade is great because they make money on both sides of the deal, they make money from the American companies and the foreign companies by linking the monies together....
Schiff is a rat bastard whose every word and ideal is suspect. If American money is so bad why does he stay here? Because little rich pricks like him are safe here making the US into a 3rd world nation that has no manufacturing base...if I were religious this is where I would mention that he will most likely rot in hell for his actions on this earth...since I'm not I can only hope he loses everything and ends up having to work for a Wal Mart in a town near his rich neighbors who can mock him like he mocks those less fortunate.
hedda_foil
(16,373 posts)Per Wikipedia:
Early life and education
Schiff was born in New Haven, Connecticut. His father is Irwin Schiff, a prominent figure in the U.S. tax protester movement, who is currently serving a 13-year sentence for tax evasion in Federal prison.[10][11] Peter Schiff attended Beverly Hills High School in California,[12] and graduated from the University of California, Berkeley in 1987 with a BS in Accounting and Finance.
<snip>
In an August 2006 interview Schiff said: "The United States is like the Titanic and I am here with the lifeboat trying to get people to leave the ship... I see a real financial crisis coming for the United States."
<snip>
JHB
(37,160 posts)...he acts like the people (in Parliament and the East India Company) who the Boston Tea Party was against.
Arugula Latte
(50,566 posts)I'm glad Cal is a big school and I didn't know him.
kwolf68
(7,365 posts)at some point this man will be recognized for his humanitarian work. He's my idol and hero and I will have my children read every word he says so they can make the world a better place.
frwrfpos
(517 posts)No comment.
JHB
(37,160 posts)...ideological dickishness like this. Particularly from people who don't actually build or create anything, but whose entire livelihood revolves around routing money in various directions (and -- as much as possible -- to themselves). It's all just numbers to them.
moondust
(19,981 posts)"I shall feast on the blood of your worthless labor while you squirm and grasp at crumbs."
LittleBlue
(10,362 posts)And most of us are worth whatever the comparable Chinese guy is making.
quinnox
(20,600 posts)this is a dream of theirs - no minimum wage, going back to the slave labor working conditions of the 19th century. Forced 16-18 hour work days and the workers get paid barely anything. They would love that.
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)I would not, of course, expect a troglodyte like Schiff to know that the phrase "mentally retarded" is obsolete and is considered by many to be an insult on the order of the N-word.
But yeah, pennies an hour. It's happening. And it's all perfectly legal, under something called Section 14(c) which allows employers like Goodwill to obtain subminimum wage certificates.
https://nfb.org/fair-wages
Sounds like Schiff's wet dream.
democratisphere
(17,235 posts)therefore they would be perfect candidates for the $2.00/Hr. wage jobs. Is this GIANT-F-A for real? Another corporate psychopath whose sole purpose is to generate wealth with no regard for anyone or anything, most specially the economic consequences to their own country. Schiff is UNBELIEVABLE!
appleannie1
(5,067 posts)And he is worth a heck of a lot more than 2 dollars an hour. He makes cement curbing and cement lawn ornaments during the week and cleans at the local Dairy Queen on weekends in the summer. And he would be a hell of a lot more respectful to Schiff than that poor excuse for a human has earned.
ScreamingMeemie
(68,918 posts)I don't know why the shitheels always get the microphones.
Gothmog
(145,213 posts)This idiot is incredibly ignorant. Hikes in the minimum wage does not affect jobs. His views on the disabled are also really disgusting
Johonny
(20,849 posts)this is a guy who can't even imagine the guy he's paying 2$ might being doing a job more valuable for society than his and might even actually be smarter than him.
ck4829
(35,074 posts)What country are you talking about then, Casteland?
PowerToThePeople
(9,610 posts)His head will look good on a pike with all the others.
kwolf68
(7,365 posts)I suspect they are opening up a new 'labor market' of insanely cheap labor, because maybe they think mentally challenged people won't be 'aware enough' to know they are being screwed over. Not 'aware' enough to bargain for fair wages and safe working conditions, let alone 'aware' enough to organize. What next? Armed guards while the workers plug along?
This guy is a dinosaur and this thinking is malignant and repulsive, but I fear it is much of the fuel that powers the Republican clown car.
mstinamotorcity2
(1,451 posts)Or how much money you have, A RIP is still a RIP (Ridiculously Ignorant Person).
Jesus Malverde
(10,274 posts)Advocates for the rights of workers with disabilities are ramping up their campaign to change the federal law that allows disabled employees to be paid as little as 22 cents an hour. As part of a bid to raise awareness, they are shaming companies like Goodwill Industries Inc. for taking advantage of those low pay rates.
On October 31, petitions with some 170,000 signatures demanding policy changes at Goodwill were delivered to the companys Rockville, Maryland, headquarters and to five regional offices in New York, California, Texas, Washington state and Rhode Island, says Ari Neeman of the Autistic Self Advocacy Network (ASAN). The signatures were collected through a Change.org online campaign in conjunction with the National Federation of the Blind (NFB) and ASAN.
ASAN and NFB want changes to the 1938 Fair Labor Standards Act (FLSA) that allows select employers, including Goodwill, to pay people with disabilities at wage rates far below the federal minimum wage of $7.25 an hour. The groups have documented cases of individual workers with disabilities at Goodwill receiving the minimum of 22 cents an hour, Neeman says, and ASAN believes that such pay levels are unfair and abusive.
Efforts in Washington, DC, to change the law are currently stalled, reports Neeman, and we are unlikely to see any progress in this Congress, which continues through the end of 2014. There doesnt seem to be any appetite on the part of the traditional supporters [of rights for the disabled] to go after FLSA at this time, he says. But we are intent on keeping up the pressure and making advances where we can.
lumberjack_jeff
(33,224 posts)lumberjack_jeff
(33,224 posts)So the math is at best nonlinear.
I work every day with people who have developmental disabilities, and the all realize that they can throw a better christmas party when they each contribute $20 to the party instead of $5.
When each consumer has more money to spend, the economic ecosystem prospers. Hiring 10 people at $2 per hour generates less economic activity (set aside general wellbeing) than 2 at $10.10 per hour.
There might not be a need for a minimum wage if there was a maximum return on capital.
underpants
(182,799 posts)dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)Welfare reform minister: some disabled people not worth minimum wage
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025668570
It's a global talking point, not just USA.
Wounded Bear
(58,651 posts)"You're worth what I think you're worth."
Tommy_Carcetti
(43,182 posts)What product, what tangible good does he give the public?
The answer is nothing. He runs a hedge fund. He makes money on money. That's it.
Nothing I can go get from my local grocery store, or restaurant, or use for my house or for my car or anything.
Don't get me wrong. There are dozens of CEOs out there who say stuff and believe in stuff just as stupid as Schiff proclaims.
But in their defense, at least some of them provide an actual product that we can enjoy. If I want a mediocre pizza delivered to my front door, I can call my local Papa John's, John Schnatter's ramblings on health care notwithstanding.
Peter Schiff can't even claim that in his defense.
Bennyboy
(10,440 posts)to it's disabled employees thanks to a loophole? I remember reading that a year or so ago.....