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kpete

(71,991 posts)
Wed Jan 29, 2014, 10:39 AM Jan 2014

CEO tells Daily Show ‘mentally retarded’ could work for $2: ‘You’re worth what you’re worth’

People don’t go hungry in a capitalist economy, Schiff claimed.

“It’s socialism that creates, you know, scarcity, that creates famine,” he said. “In a free market, there’s plenty of food for everybody – especially the poor.”


Schiff argued that eliminating the minimum wage law would allow more people entry to the workforce, and Bee asked him to identify someone whose work might be worth just $2 an hour.

“You know someone that might be? Maybe someone who is – what’s the politically correct word, you know, for mentally retarded,” Schiff said. “I believe in the principles this country was founded on.”

“I’m not going to say that we’re all created equal,” he said. “You’re worth what you’re worth.”

MORE:
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/01/29/ceo-tells-daily-show-mentally-retarded-could-work-for-2-youre-worth-what-youre-worth/

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CEO tells Daily Show ‘mentally retarded’ could work for $2: ‘You’re worth what you’re worth’ (Original Post) kpete Jan 2014 OP
Sometimes there simply are no words that would suffice theHandpuppet Jan 2014 #1
You don't have to believe in Karma for Karma to be real. And it's a bitch!!! I just want to know kelliekat44 Jan 2014 #41
There's that 'compassionate conservatism' at work. babylonsister Jan 2014 #2
So that wasn't just John Hodges in a costume? NuclearDem Jan 2014 #3
Schiff is reprehensible and disgusting. /nt think Jan 2014 #4
In that case he should work for free since he's worth nothing hobbit709 Jan 2014 #5
DUzy Nomination /nt dickthegrouch Jan 2014 #23
You win the thread. nt cinnabonbon Jan 2014 #30
+1. El_Johns Jan 2014 #33
+1000 demigoddess Jan 2014 #38
+1000000000 Initech Jan 2014 #46
Ha! City Lights Jan 2014 #48
and there you have it. Damn Solly Mack Jan 2014 #6
And this coming from a profession that has an out-of-control entitlement problem. DetlefK Jan 2014 #7
You have to be a certain kind of crazy to demand that kind of salary. nt adirondacker Jan 2014 #25
Here are his comments on fast food workers: bullwinkle428 Jan 2014 #8
Where do they find douchebags like this? NaturalHigh Jan 2014 #9
How he got his head so far up his ass, we'll never know. blogslut Jan 2014 #10
And still manages to get his foot in his mouth at the same time. hobbit709 Jan 2014 #11
I suspect bad parenting siligut Jan 2014 #17
someone should extract it and mount it on a pike frylock Jan 2014 #47
What is he a ceo of? jwirr Jan 2014 #12
Euro Pacific Capital Investment nil desperandum Jan 2014 #14
No wonder the article did not specify. He and others like him are just what is wrong with the US. jwirr Jan 2014 #19
Schiff nil desperandum Jan 2014 #13
"I'm not going to say that all men are created equal." Let's look at the bio of this psychopath. hedda_foil Jan 2014 #15
He may say “I believe in the principles this country was founded on”, but... JHB Jan 2014 #21
Oh, jeez, I guess I went to college with this asshole. Arugula Latte Jan 2014 #39
To be sure kwolf68 Jan 2014 #16
i cant type what i think should happen to this asshole frwrfpos Jan 2014 #18
Memo to "the rich": People don't necessarily hate "the rich". They hate self-serving... JHB Jan 2014 #20
Vampire alert. moondust Jan 2014 #22
Welcome to TPP world- you're worth what you're worth LittleBlue Jan 2014 #24
the republican mindset - pay slave wages to people and get wealthy of them quinnox Jan 2014 #26
Guess what? Some people with intellectual disabilities are working for less than that KamaAina Jan 2014 #27
We all know it costs LESS to feed and care for a person who is mentally retarded;........ democratisphere Jan 2014 #28
On behalf of my son, I take offense to that remark. Michael works harder than Schiff ever did. appleannie1 Jan 2014 #29
I am imagining that your son is priceless. ScreamingMeemie Jan 2014 #37
This guy is an idiot-he is wrong on the economics and his views on the disabled Gothmog Jan 2014 #31
We are not created equal as clearly some lack total empathy for other human beings Johonny Jan 2014 #32
"I believe in the principles this country was founded on... I don't believe we're created equal." ck4829 Jan 2014 #34
He is a puke PowerToThePeople Jan 2014 #35
How close is this to slave labor kwolf68 Jan 2014 #36
Sometimes no mater how you dress it up. mstinamotorcity2 Jan 2014 #40
subminimum wage Jesus Malverde Jan 2014 #42
Sheltered workshops have outlived their usefulness. n/t lumberjack_jeff Jan 2014 #44
There is apparently no degree of cognitive deficit which precludes a person from CEO. lumberjack_jeff Jan 2014 #43
Same thing said on Fox News by someone else. Hmmmm underpants Jan 2014 #45
and by the Welfare Minister in Britain: dixiegrrrrl Oct 2014 #52
What he really means: Wounded Bear Jan 2014 #49
I don't understand what Schiff even contributes to society. Tommy_Carcetti Feb 2014 #50
Doesn't Goodwill pay less than that Bennyboy Feb 2014 #51

theHandpuppet

(19,964 posts)
1. Sometimes there simply are no words that would suffice
Wed Jan 29, 2014, 10:42 AM
Jan 2014

And this is one of those times I really wished I believed in karma.

 

kelliekat44

(7,759 posts)
41. You don't have to believe in Karma for Karma to be real. And it's a bitch!!! I just want to know
Wed Jan 29, 2014, 02:57 PM
Jan 2014

when it happens.

DetlefK

(16,423 posts)
7. And this coming from a profession that has an out-of-control entitlement problem.
Wed Jan 29, 2014, 10:53 AM
Jan 2014

"You are worth what you're worth."

Bankers work hard, don't misunderstand me, but their wages aren't calculated from what they are worth but from what they "feel" they "should" get paid. It's blown way out of proportion.

Why are top-rating european bankers worth 1 million per year and top-rating US-bankers are worth 10 million per year?

bullwinkle428

(20,629 posts)
8. Here are his comments on fast food workers:
Wed Jan 29, 2014, 10:54 AM
Jan 2014

“I don’t really eat there, but they don’t seem desperate and hungry to me. They’re young kids, they seem to be enjoying themselves mostly.”

I'm guessing he thinks that slaves were really happy because they sang songs all day, working in the fields picking cotton.

siligut

(12,272 posts)
17. I suspect bad parenting
Wed Jan 29, 2014, 11:12 AM
Jan 2014
Schiff was born in New Haven, Connecticut. His father is Irwin Schiff, a prominent figure in the U.S. tax protester movement, who is currently serving a 13-year sentence for tax evasion in Federal prison.[10][11] Peter Schiff attended Beverly Hills High School in California,[12] and graduated from the University of California, Berkeley in 1987 with a BS in Accounting and Finance.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Schiff

nil desperandum

(654 posts)
14. Euro Pacific Capital Investment
Wed Jan 29, 2014, 11:03 AM
Jan 2014

He helps people divest their holdings away from the dollar...great guy... really, just a wonderful humanitarian.

/sarc

nil desperandum

(654 posts)
13. Schiff
Wed Jan 29, 2014, 11:01 AM
Jan 2014

People like Schiff don't go hungry certainly. Of course they don't produce anything either they just siphon off profits by moving money for investors, he's a parasite of immense proportion.

I understand clearly the concerns about the minimum wage from the business side increased cost always has an effect on final pricing structure, but it's people like Schiff who operate funding sources to help people take their money out of US firms that are a bigger problem. These people are traitors to the nation they live in, they think funding manufacturing in foreign nations for US companies and free trade is great because they make money on both sides of the deal, they make money from the American companies and the foreign companies by linking the monies together....

Schiff is a rat bastard whose every word and ideal is suspect. If American money is so bad why does he stay here? Because little rich pricks like him are safe here making the US into a 3rd world nation that has no manufacturing base...if I were religious this is where I would mention that he will most likely rot in hell for his actions on this earth...since I'm not I can only hope he loses everything and ends up having to work for a Wal Mart in a town near his rich neighbors who can mock him like he mocks those less fortunate.

hedda_foil

(16,373 posts)
15. "I'm not going to say that all men are created equal." Let's look at the bio of this psychopath.
Wed Jan 29, 2014, 11:07 AM
Jan 2014

Per Wikipedia:


Early life and education

Schiff was born in New Haven, Connecticut. His father is Irwin Schiff, a prominent figure in the U.S. tax protester movement, who is currently serving a 13-year sentence for tax evasion in Federal prison.[10][11] Peter Schiff attended Beverly Hills High School in California,[12] and graduated from the University of California, Berkeley in 1987 with a BS in Accounting and Finance.

<snip>

In an August 2006 interview Schiff said: "The United States is like the Titanic and I am here with the lifeboat trying to get people to leave the ship... I see a real financial crisis coming for the United States."

<snip>







JHB

(37,160 posts)
21. He may say “I believe in the principles this country was founded on”, but...
Wed Jan 29, 2014, 11:21 AM
Jan 2014

...he acts like the people (in Parliament and the East India Company) who the Boston Tea Party was against.

 

Arugula Latte

(50,566 posts)
39. Oh, jeez, I guess I went to college with this asshole.
Wed Jan 29, 2014, 02:47 PM
Jan 2014

I'm glad Cal is a big school and I didn't know him.

kwolf68

(7,365 posts)
16. To be sure
Wed Jan 29, 2014, 11:11 AM
Jan 2014

at some point this man will be recognized for his humanitarian work. He's my idol and hero and I will have my children read every word he says so they can make the world a better place.

JHB

(37,160 posts)
20. Memo to "the rich": People don't necessarily hate "the rich". They hate self-serving...
Wed Jan 29, 2014, 11:17 AM
Jan 2014

...ideological dickishness like this. Particularly from people who don't actually build or create anything, but whose entire livelihood revolves around routing money in various directions (and -- as much as possible -- to themselves). It's all just numbers to them.

moondust

(19,981 posts)
22. Vampire alert.
Wed Jan 29, 2014, 12:19 PM
Jan 2014

"I shall feast on the blood of your worthless labor while you squirm and grasp at crumbs."

 

LittleBlue

(10,362 posts)
24. Welcome to TPP world- you're worth what you're worth
Wed Jan 29, 2014, 01:05 PM
Jan 2014

And most of us are worth whatever the comparable Chinese guy is making.

 

quinnox

(20,600 posts)
26. the republican mindset - pay slave wages to people and get wealthy of them
Wed Jan 29, 2014, 01:12 PM
Jan 2014

this is a dream of theirs - no minimum wage, going back to the slave labor working conditions of the 19th century. Forced 16-18 hour work days and the workers get paid barely anything. They would love that.

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
27. Guess what? Some people with intellectual disabilities are working for less than that
Wed Jan 29, 2014, 01:17 PM
Jan 2014

I would not, of course, expect a troglodyte like Schiff to know that the phrase "mentally retarded" is obsolete and is considered by many to be an insult on the order of the N-word.

But yeah, pennies an hour. It's happening. And it's all perfectly legal, under something called Section 14(c) which allows employers like Goodwill to obtain subminimum wage certificates.

https://nfb.org/fair-wages

Written in 1938, Section 14(c) of the Fair Labor Standards Act (FLSA) discriminates against people with disabilities. The provision allows the Secretary of Labor to grant to employers Special Wage Certificates that permit them to pay workers with disabilities subminimum wages (wages that are less than the federal minimum wage) primarily in sheltered workshops (segregated work environments). This is based on the false assumption that disabled workers are less productive than nondisabled workers, which has been disproven by the successful employment models that have emerged in the last seventy-five years to assist people with significant disabilities in acquiring the job skills needed for competitive work. Section 14(c) sustains segregated subminimum-wage workshops that exploit disabled workers, paying some only pennies per hour for mundane, repetitive tasks.


Sounds like Schiff's wet dream.

democratisphere

(17,235 posts)
28. We all know it costs LESS to feed and care for a person who is mentally retarded;........
Wed Jan 29, 2014, 01:19 PM
Jan 2014

therefore they would be perfect candidates for the $2.00/Hr. wage jobs. Is this GIANT-F-A for real? Another corporate psychopath whose sole purpose is to generate wealth with no regard for anyone or anything, most specially the economic consequences to their own country. Schiff is UNBELIEVABLE!

appleannie1

(5,067 posts)
29. On behalf of my son, I take offense to that remark. Michael works harder than Schiff ever did.
Wed Jan 29, 2014, 01:26 PM
Jan 2014

And he is worth a heck of a lot more than 2 dollars an hour. He makes cement curbing and cement lawn ornaments during the week and cleans at the local Dairy Queen on weekends in the summer. And he would be a hell of a lot more respectful to Schiff than that poor excuse for a human has earned.

Gothmog

(145,213 posts)
31. This guy is an idiot-he is wrong on the economics and his views on the disabled
Wed Jan 29, 2014, 01:29 PM
Jan 2014

This idiot is incredibly ignorant. Hikes in the minimum wage does not affect jobs. His views on the disabled are also really disgusting

Johonny

(20,849 posts)
32. We are not created equal as clearly some lack total empathy for other human beings
Wed Jan 29, 2014, 01:31 PM
Jan 2014

this is a guy who can't even imagine the guy he's paying 2$ might being doing a job more valuable for society than his and might even actually be smarter than him.

ck4829

(35,074 posts)
34. "I believe in the principles this country was founded on... I don't believe we're created equal."
Wed Jan 29, 2014, 01:40 PM
Jan 2014

What country are you talking about then, Casteland?

kwolf68

(7,365 posts)
36. How close is this to slave labor
Wed Jan 29, 2014, 01:44 PM
Jan 2014

I suspect they are opening up a new 'labor market' of insanely cheap labor, because maybe they think mentally challenged people won't be 'aware enough' to know they are being screwed over. Not 'aware' enough to bargain for fair wages and safe working conditions, let alone 'aware' enough to organize. What next? Armed guards while the workers plug along?

This guy is a dinosaur and this thinking is malignant and repulsive, but I fear it is much of the fuel that powers the Republican clown car.

mstinamotorcity2

(1,451 posts)
40. Sometimes no mater how you dress it up.
Wed Jan 29, 2014, 02:54 PM
Jan 2014

Or how much money you have, A RIP is still a RIP (Ridiculously Ignorant Person).

Jesus Malverde

(10,274 posts)
42. subminimum wage
Wed Jan 29, 2014, 03:07 PM
Jan 2014
http://billmoyers.com/2013/11/12/for-goodwill%E2%80%99s-disabled-workers-spotlight-is-on-subminimum-wage/

Advocates for the rights of workers with disabilities are ramping up their campaign to change the federal law that allows disabled employees to be paid as little as 22 cents an hour. As part of a bid to raise awareness, they are shaming companies like Goodwill Industries Inc. for taking advantage of those low pay rates.

On October 31, petitions with some 170,000 signatures demanding policy changes at Goodwill were delivered to the company’s Rockville, Maryland, headquarters and to five regional offices in New York, California, Texas, Washington state and Rhode Island, says Ari Ne’eman of the Autistic Self Advocacy Network (ASAN). The signatures were collected through a Change.org online campaign in conjunction with the National Federation of the Blind (NFB) and ASAN.

ASAN and NFB want changes to the 1938 Fair Labor Standards Act (FLSA) that allows select employers, including Goodwill, to pay people with disabilities at wage rates far below the federal minimum wage of $7.25 an hour. The groups have documented cases of individual workers with disabilities at Goodwill receiving the minimum of 22 cents an hour, Ne’eman says, and ASAN believes that such pay levels are unfair and abusive.

Efforts in Washington, DC, to change the law are currently stalled, reports Ne’eman, and “we are unlikely to see any progress in this Congress,” which continues through the end of 2014. “There doesn’t seem to be any appetite on the part of the traditional supporters [of rights for the disabled] to go after FLSA at this time,” he says. “But we are intent on keeping up the pressure and making advances where we can.”
 

lumberjack_jeff

(33,224 posts)
43. There is apparently no degree of cognitive deficit which precludes a person from CEO.
Wed Jan 29, 2014, 03:17 PM
Jan 2014

So the math is at best nonlinear.

I work every day with people who have developmental disabilities, and the all realize that they can throw a better christmas party when they each contribute $20 to the party instead of $5.

When each consumer has more money to spend, the economic ecosystem prospers. Hiring 10 people at $2 per hour generates less economic activity (set aside general wellbeing) than 2 at $10.10 per hour.

There might not be a need for a minimum wage if there was a maximum return on capital.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
52. and by the Welfare Minister in Britain:
Wed Oct 15, 2014, 12:39 PM
Oct 2014

Welfare reform minister: some disabled people ‘not worth’ minimum wage

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025668570

It's a global talking point, not just USA.

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,182 posts)
50. I don't understand what Schiff even contributes to society.
Fri Feb 7, 2014, 10:56 AM
Feb 2014

What product, what tangible good does he give the public?

The answer is nothing. He runs a hedge fund. He makes money on money. That's it.

Nothing I can go get from my local grocery store, or restaurant, or use for my house or for my car or anything.

Don't get me wrong. There are dozens of CEOs out there who say stuff and believe in stuff just as stupid as Schiff proclaims.

But in their defense, at least some of them provide an actual product that we can enjoy. If I want a mediocre pizza delivered to my front door, I can call my local Papa John's, John Schnatter's ramblings on health care notwithstanding.

Peter Schiff can't even claim that in his defense.

 

Bennyboy

(10,440 posts)
51. Doesn't Goodwill pay less than that
Fri Feb 7, 2014, 12:10 PM
Feb 2014

to it's disabled employees thanks to a loophole? I remember reading that a year or so ago.....

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