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Mon Feb 3, 2014, 09:47 PM

4-year-old Anala Beevers Accepted into MENSA with IQ of 145



This Black History Month, we'd thought it would be great to highlight some young people who represent an impressive Black future.

Sabrina and Landon Beevers attest that their daughter, Anala, learned the alphabet at only 4 months old, and it's hard to doubt them because Anala has an IQ over 145. The New Orleans toddler was invited to join Mensa, the high-IQ society for people who score at the 98th percentile or higher on the standardized intelligence test last June. Anala is in the 99th percentile.

That was more than half a year ago. Surely, Anala is successfully multiplying fractions by now.

Video at the Link.

http://shine.forharriet.com/2014/02/4-year-old-anala-beevers-accepted-into.html

I found more here

'I'm FOUR and smarter than my parents': Toddler who can recite every capital city and boasts IQ over 145 becomes Mensa's newest member

Anala Beevers from New Orleans learned the alphabet when she was four months old and by 18 months had mastered numbers in Spanish


Brainy: Anala Beevers, aged four, who can recite the capital of every country and U.S. state


Lost in thought: The four-year-old's current preoccupation is learning the names of the planets and dinosaurs

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2380978/Toddler-Anala-Beevers-boasts-IQ-145-Mensas-newest-member.html#ixzz2sJsRlydM
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Response to sheshe2 (Original post)

Mon Feb 3, 2014, 09:51 PM

1. She is a power house at 4 years old....abc's at 4 months..ha ha.

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Response to Jefferson23 (Reply #1)

Mon Feb 3, 2014, 10:10 PM

5. Dad said she was a handful, I bet she is.

Anala is off the charts.

Thanks Jefferson.

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Response to sheshe2 (Reply #5)

Mon Feb 3, 2014, 10:18 PM

7. I'll bet we have a few congresscritters who don't know their ABCs.

 

I wish I was kidding!

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Response to NYC_SKP (Reply #7)

Mon Feb 3, 2014, 10:26 PM

9. Oh I feel your pain,

because that is indeed true, SKP!

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Response to NYC_SKP (Reply #7)

Tue Feb 4, 2014, 12:52 PM

80. lol. +1. nt

 

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Response to Jefferson23 (Reply #1)

Tue Feb 4, 2014, 06:24 PM

98. yea...sounds like she is likely higher than 145...probably too hard to really measure a 4 year old.

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Response to sheshe2 (Original post)

Mon Feb 3, 2014, 10:04 PM

2. K&R

Bet IQ is higher than 145!

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Response to burrowowl (Reply #2)

Mon Feb 3, 2014, 10:34 PM

14. I concur

My kid was a powerhouse. He shocked me at 15 months reading: H - O - O - V - E - not E standing on the vaccuum cleaner. And looking at the window 2 months later saying: 6 squares. (he just inhaled Sesame Street and "got it"
He entered school reading at 6th grade level and 3rd grade math.
I did not allow his IQ being measured because I was a single Mom and overwhelmed already. I said I needed all my power to discipline him and remain smarter than he.

At age 18 he took a three day Mensa test.
178 was his score. I think this kid is way higher than 145.

Great story - great kid - and if given the proper head start / training / encouragement / a parent at home til age 3 / lack of grave money problems or family drama -------in my opinion our world is full of such children.

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Response to burrowowl (Reply #2)

Tue Feb 4, 2014, 02:48 AM

62. Yes. Look at her eyes. Maybe it is just my imagination, but she looks really scary smart.

What you call an old soul.

She is pretty besides. Lucky little girl. I bet her parents and people who get to know her well love her very much. She looks she has great parents. Since for humans, it is survival of the most nurtured. She will do well.

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Response to burrowowl (Reply #2)

Tue Feb 4, 2014, 11:14 AM

68. Doesn't IQ measure higher as folks age?

She's only 4. Her parents are going to have their hands full finding resources for her.

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Response to TBF (Reply #68)

Wed Feb 5, 2014, 03:04 PM

108. IQ test scores are normed for age

 

So an adult if graded for four year olds scores very high.

The problem with IQ tests and the young are twofold. First, the tests themselves are diagnostic aids trying to find out who is mentally challenged. The high end is really not designed for in these tests. Second, there is a lot of learning of the tests. In most situations you can only give any psychometric/neuropsychological test once a year, to give the subject some time to forget the test. Giving a kid an IQ test every week will greatly inflate their score.

lil AA was given an IQ test to get into a gifted school. I got a few copies of the test and made her do it a few weeks before the real test. She scored a 142. According to mr. google this makes her smarter than 99.4803893690% of all 5 year olds. She is a smart kid but not that smart. (Based upon me and her mom, accounting for regression to the mean her IQ most likely is in the 125 area.) And because we live in a fancy neighborhood, she didn't get into the gifted school! I think the cutoff was 146 this year. But it is the best school in the state which it should be if the lowest IQ in the school is !46...

Anyway, we won a lottery and got into the magnet school of our choice so we did not have to move.

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Response to sheshe2 (Original post)

Mon Feb 3, 2014, 10:06 PM

3. Right on.

I wonder what she'll focus on as she gets older. Some people are just born with intellect from another place.

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Response to sheshe2 (Original post)

Mon Feb 3, 2014, 10:08 PM

4. Wow

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Response to sheshe2 (Original post)

Mon Feb 3, 2014, 10:12 PM

6. k&r

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Response to sheshe2 (Original post)

Mon Feb 3, 2014, 10:24 PM

8. Good for Anala being so intelligent at four. Nice addition

to Black History Month, she.. Mahalo.

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Response to Cha (Reply #8)

Mon Feb 3, 2014, 10:27 PM

10. Good kick off indeed Cha!

Wow just wow.

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Response to sheshe2 (Original post)

Mon Feb 3, 2014, 10:31 PM

11. More to come!

 

- K&R

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Response to sheshe2 (Original post)

Mon Feb 3, 2014, 10:32 PM

12. I rejected Mensa membership

when I was a kid, but KUDOS to Anala!

I think Mensa a self-serving group of wanna-bees, who do nothing more than pat themselves on the back for being 'smart", without actually advacing humanity. I love the fact that Alana made the 'cut', but damn...I hope she moves away from 'membership' and into advancing us all.

I'm doing my best in my late 40s, but help is needed.

No one is an Island, and yet no one is an Ocean either.

Rock on, Anala...

-gali

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Response to Galileo126 (Reply #12)

Mon Feb 3, 2014, 10:49 PM

19. If you knew anything about Mensa

 

you would know how totally prejudiced and uninformed you are.

But don't bother joining, with your attitude, you are sure to be a failure at it. No room for tin-plated gods there.

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Response to Demeter (Reply #19)

Tue Feb 4, 2014, 12:08 AM

36. Thank you for speaking up.

I have enjoyed my Mensa membership for the last eleven years.

Any time Mensa is mentioned here, a large number of people come out of the woodwork, mention how high their IQ's are, and how they have "rejected" Mensa membership. As if Mensa goes around recruiting. People investigate Mensa voluntarily, and take the test if they elect to do so.

As you know, Mensa is a social organization. They have no designs for world domination or for creating special interest groups to present or promote a point of view. There is no single point of view in Mensa.

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Response to murielm99 (Reply #36)

Tue Feb 4, 2014, 03:47 PM

88. I Went To A Couple Of Meeting In Chicago

That was pretty long ago. But, i'm not a joiner so the social organization thing didn't do much for me.

That's not the organization, that's me.
GAC

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Response to murielm99 (Reply #36)

Wed Feb 5, 2014, 04:24 PM

115. +1

I've been a Mensa member for 30 years now and have always enjoyed the company of people I don't have to explain my jokes to.

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Response to Galileo126 (Reply #12)

Mon Feb 3, 2014, 10:55 PM

20. Where to even begin? ..... Nah, no point. nt

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Response to Galileo126 (Reply #12)

Mon Feb 3, 2014, 11:24 PM

26. I agree. Anyone with a high enough SAT score or a high enough score on

one of 200 tests may apply.

They prey on insecure people who need to brag about how smart they are.

http://www.us.mensa.org/AML/?LinkServID=005EB3F7-B83A-44BA-B4FFD5114A1AC31D


SAT cut-off score

prior to 9/30/1974 1300
from 9/30/1974 to 1/31/1994 1250
after 1/31/1994 N/A


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Response to Galileo126 (Reply #12)

Mon Feb 3, 2014, 11:30 PM

28. Why post this? Bragging? Weird to me! nt

 

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Response to Galileo126 (Reply #12)

Tue Feb 4, 2014, 12:50 AM

46. As a Mensa member, you're not talking about me or others I know.

The way I look at it, I have a talent that measures high on IQ tests. Some people have the physical ability to run 4 minute miles, some people have perfect pitch, etc.

These are talents and we use them in all sorts of ways. The Mensans I know are generally liberal in political philosophy, participate in community organizations, volunteer their time, and contribute their money. Some of us are successful financially, musically, academically, in leadership, or ..., etc. Some of us are not successfully by most measured criteria. In other words, we're a varied group. From financiers to hippies, from professional women to homemakers, etc..

I love spending time with both my Mensa friends and with my non-Mensa friends.

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Response to SharonAnn (Reply #46)

Wed Feb 5, 2014, 10:36 PM

119. What exactly do you do?

 

I qualify but have never seriously considered joining.

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Response to Galileo126 (Reply #12)

Tue Feb 4, 2014, 12:56 AM

49. I joined Mensa a long time ago but let my membership lapse soon after.

All the people I met were interested mainly in impressing everyone else how intelligent they were.
The conversations were all one upsmanship style.

There was also a guy who had invented his own game because chess was too simplistic.
He kept pushing me to play him at his own game and then gloated when he won.

I went to about 3 functions and never went back.

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Response to Galileo126 (Reply #12)

Tue Feb 4, 2014, 01:54 AM

55. Sure you did.

 

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Response to Galileo126 (Reply #12)

Tue Feb 4, 2014, 03:58 PM

90. .that's precisely how I feel about people who allegedly turn down memberships to MENSA...

"who do nothing more than pat themselves on the back for being 'smart", without actually advacing (sic) humanity..."

Odd...that's precisely how I feel about people who tell others that they've allegedly turned down memberships to MENSA in order to advertise how clever they are.

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Response to Galileo126 (Reply #12)

Tue Feb 4, 2014, 06:29 PM

99. .

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Response to sheshe2 (Original post)

Mon Feb 3, 2014, 10:34 PM

13. This little girl really is impressive. I like her.

What would really impress me, if she dropped out of MENSA.

MENSA is infested with just about any and every "paranormal" nonsense you can imagine.
Their magazine is full of ads for psychics, UFO conspiracy books, 9-11 Truthers, the works.

James Randi was in MENSA, he dropped out due to the sheer volume of crap he saw there.

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Response to Archae (Reply #13)

Mon Feb 3, 2014, 10:59 PM

21. The monthly journal accepts paid advertising. I've never met any of those people, altho...

.... I did meet a gun nut once during the Clinton administration. He told me he was going to bury his collection 6 feet under in his back yard before letting the government take them away. I looked at him in utter sincerity and said: "Good idea." Wasn't a regular.

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Response to Hekate (Reply #21)

Mon Feb 3, 2014, 11:10 PM

24. It's not just advertising.

They had articles in their magazine about Roswell, including that "Roswell autopsy film," years after it had been exposed as a hoax.
And the articles were all, I do mean ALL, what we skeptics call an "FTB."

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Response to Archae (Reply #24)

Mon Feb 3, 2014, 11:41 PM

32. Mostly I don't read the magazine, but occasionally have found articles of interest.

Nothing quite that fancy, however.

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Response to Archae (Reply #13)

Mon Feb 3, 2014, 11:03 PM

22. I've known about three dozen people who've self-identified as MENSA members

Every single one of them fits the description that you outlined.

I imagine that all MENSA members aren't like that, but the ones who are like that constitute an off-puttingly visible minority.


YMMV

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Response to Archae (Reply #13)

Tue Feb 4, 2014, 04:01 PM

91. Kind of like DU on a slow news day.

"MENSA is infested with just about any and every "paranormal" nonsense you can imagine..."

Kind of like DU on a slow news day...

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Response to LanternWaste (Reply #91)

Tue Feb 4, 2014, 08:07 PM

100. LOL!

Thanks for that

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Response to sheshe2 (Original post)

Mon Feb 3, 2014, 10:35 PM

15. Impressive little one!

Anala! Absolutely remarkable!!! You ROCK, sweetie!!!

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Response to calimary (Reply #15)

Mon Feb 3, 2014, 10:40 PM

16. Hi, calimary!

She sure does! Wow, I can only imagine what her future has in store for her.

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Response to sheshe2 (Original post)

Mon Feb 3, 2014, 10:46 PM

17. Beautiful!

and in Mensa @4



-p

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Response to sheshe2 (Original post)

Mon Feb 3, 2014, 10:47 PM

18. How is that possible?

Why aren't we all like that? I'm pretty smart, but this kid is going to make me look like the Rain Man by comparison.

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Response to Deep13 (Reply #18)

Mon Feb 3, 2014, 11:31 PM

29. But with poorer memory, Rain Man, if I remember correctly, had eidetic memory.

Of course, not having that type of memory myself, I could be wrong.

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Response to Humanist_Activist (Reply #29)

Tue Feb 4, 2014, 12:11 PM

74. Yeah, remembered everything and could count really fast too. nt

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Response to sheshe2 (Original post)

Mon Feb 3, 2014, 11:08 PM

23. George W Bush can't even say the word "nuclear".






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Response to lpbk2713 (Reply #23)

Mon Feb 3, 2014, 11:52 PM

34. .

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Response to lpbk2713 (Reply #23)

Tue Feb 4, 2014, 12:19 AM

39. Neither can Sarah Palin

It's only 20 seconds and just pretend its Tina Fey


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Response to sheshe2 (Original post)

Mon Feb 3, 2014, 11:17 PM

25. I suspect she has Eidetic Memory.

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Response to Promethean (Reply #25)

Mon Feb 3, 2014, 11:25 PM

27. Could you remind what that is again?

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Response to Orrex (Reply #27)

Tue Feb 4, 2014, 11:18 AM

69. Photographic Memory -

my family suspected one of my aunts had it. It isn't connected with intelligence - it is a perfect recall of printed materials.

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Response to TBF (Reply #69)

Tue Feb 4, 2014, 12:33 PM

75. That will help you on a lot of things...

but it won't help you figure out the pattern in a string of numbers or
reason out a logic problem.

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Response to kjones (Reply #75)

Tue Feb 4, 2014, 12:49 PM

78. Agree -

it is not connected to IQ.

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Response to sheshe2 (Original post)

Mon Feb 3, 2014, 11:31 PM

30. Open up the doors and let her go as far as she wants to!

 

That little girl has a future that will put most of us to shame (and I say that as another Mensan).

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Response to sheshe2 (Original post)

Mon Feb 3, 2014, 11:38 PM

31. The nicest thing about Mensa is being in a group where you are "normal" at least part-time

I hope Anala's school believes in placing their children by ability, and challenging them accordingly. A peer group of sorts provides social nourishment, comfort that you are not a freak (especially after this very public announcement), and understanding that talent is spread about among others; that being really smart is a great gift that allows you to see the world differently, but that it is not the only gift there is.

Regarding the negative and ignorant comments here from people who kinda sorta passed through the organization:

Most of my life's best friends, including my husband, came from the local Mensa group. I've never traveled to Regional Gatherings, but some have done so year after year with great enjoyment. We're in a small regional group and don't have as much variety to offer as, for instance, gigantic Los Angeles to the south of us -- but when I came here 35 years ago I was in a strange place, newly divorced, and knew no one outside my job as a secretary. I needed to make friends among people who didn't think my point of view was that skewed, and where I didn't have to monitor every comment that came out of my mouth. Some discussions can get quite lively, political opinion runs the gamut, and we have certainly had our share of oddballs. Curiosity, tolerance, kindness, a broad range of interests -- those are the characteristics of my friends. But no one, not one person in my 50 years of membership, has talked about IQ as a personal trait.

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Response to Hekate (Reply #31)

Mon Feb 3, 2014, 11:46 PM

33. Good to see you Hekate.

Thank you for your words. I like this...

"Curiosity, tolerance, kindness, a broad range of interests -- those are the characteristics of my friends."

Anala may have problems adjusting. She is so young, yet with the right guidance, she can do anything.


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Response to Hekate (Reply #31)

Tue Feb 4, 2014, 12:16 AM

37. I agree. It is the one place

where I fit in.

I have never met anyone at a meeting or gathering who tried to impress anyone else with their intelligence. We all know that everyone there is smart! Just have a good time. Cab drivers and doctors are all treated the same. People play games, listen to a planned speaker, eat.

We have aspies in our group. I am impressed by how well they are treated.

I have gone to the HalloweeM AG. It is a good time.

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Response to murielm99 (Reply #37)

Tue Feb 4, 2014, 08:13 PM

101. Re aspies: There's a high tolerance for "difference"

In my mind it stems back to everyone's adolescence, where being different was painful. Most of us outgrow that, learn to fit in, but we remember and are accepting of those who never did. That is only my personal theory -- YMMV.

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Response to Hekate (Reply #31)

Tue Feb 4, 2014, 12:32 AM

40. You don't feel "normal" around ordinary folk? Really?

Don't you think there's something *wrong* about your need for that kind of verification?
It doesn't seem right to me.

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Response to delrem (Reply #40)

Tue Feb 4, 2014, 03:17 AM

64. I think you mean validation. However, age & chronic depression have ensured I "fit in" wherever.

I long ago learned to smile and nod. Now -- wth -- it's just people talking, and if I have any connection to the topic I can do my part. I can always talk about the grand kids; that's universal. It used to be really painful at times while I was still working 40 hours a week, because there was just no escape. Now I have my own interests and people to share them, for which I am grateful. I hope that meets with your approval.

OK, end of defensive snark.

Every human being has an inherent need for validation, and as long as it hurts no one, why should you care if they get it from being in a bowling league or square dancing or the Lions Club? Does it bother you that some people belong to clubs relating to their ethnic heritage, and that you don't qualify? Does it upset you that you can never qualify to play in the NFL? Do you feel excluded and shamed and put-down? Do you automatically assume that the teeny tiny number of humans who can and do belong in the NFL look down on you as a lesser being? No? Then why is it only intelligence and intellectual attainment that make people feel like that?

Think about it.

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Response to Hekate (Reply #31)

Sun May 31, 2015, 02:12 PM

120. So I recently joined the 999 society.

 

Because I could, I guess. My MAT score was high enough and I felt, especially after surviving the aneurism and subsequent head surgeries, that I should treat myself to a lifetime membership and a few pins.

I joined their Facebook and LinkedIn pages and am friendly with one member in SF, but nothing I've seen that is discussed tickles my fancy.

It's interesting just to see what they talk and argue about, as well as their style of argument, or styles.

And I was troubled to see on member use a xenophobic slur to refer to an Iraqi or Syrian, "rag****".

I believe it was on their Facebook Page and they were blocked or something.

Take care, and I'll see you on the boards!



http://www.triplenine.org/HowtoJoin/TestScores.aspx
https://www.facebook.com/groups/tripleninesociety/

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Response to NYC_SKP (Reply #120)

Sun May 31, 2015, 03:20 PM

122. Big surprise to see this old thread pop up. I hope you enjoy yourself meeting new people....

Also, after having your skull worked on like that, I can see how taking on this new challenge would tickle you.

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Response to sheshe2 (Original post)

Mon Feb 3, 2014, 11:55 PM

35. She should join one of the selective high-IQ societies.

There are some that you have to score 3 SDs above normal on an IQ test to get in. Mensa is 2 SDs which is 130. That's the top 2% of the population.

Three SDs is 145 IQ, or one person out of a thousand. There is the Prometheus Society and the Triple Nine Society, among others.

I scored 148 on a Stanford-Binet at age five, so I would qualify but I won't bother.

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Response to Manifestor_of_Light (Reply #35)

Tue Feb 4, 2014, 12:16 AM

38. What she >should< do is be a normal kid with lots of interests

Level-headed parents and an intelligently-run school will do the rest.

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Response to Hekate (Reply #38)

Tue Feb 4, 2014, 12:41 AM

44. Bingo!

You got it, Hekate!

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Response to Hekate (Reply #38)

Tue Feb 4, 2014, 03:07 PM

83. Yep she can join those groups when she's an adult if she wants to.

I never joined Mensa but a lot of my friends were in it.

In the city where I lived, there was a connection between Mensa, the local community orchestra(classical musicians), and the Unitarian churches and fellowships where people knew each other.

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Response to Manifestor_of_Light (Reply #83)

Tue Feb 4, 2014, 03:50 PM

89. That's why I left in college and returned in my 30s. I saw the same UU connections you did...

... only in my case the big overlap was with the computer programming community. Hmm, in that era programmers often started out with a formal background in music, philosophy, and/or languages, so there you have it. It also made for a nice pool of people that I, a complete non-techie with a background in literature, could have a conversation with.

I only joined in high school out of sheer curiosity, btw. Sadly, it infuriated my mother, but that's another story.

Anyway, I agree with you -- this little girl can seek them out closer to adulthood.

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Response to Hekate (Reply #89)

Tue Feb 4, 2014, 05:26 PM

96. You're right. Programmers too.

Several of the people I knew in the community orchestras were programmers. Women as well as men. A few of them ran SIGs (Special Interest Groups) in the local PC organization, which had many thousands of members.

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Response to sheshe2 (Original post)

Tue Feb 4, 2014, 12:33 AM

41. My nephew's son knew all the capitols at 4. His very r/w religious parents

don't know what to do with him: he has told them that he doesn't want to go to church because all the stuff in the bible isn't true. He tells them it doesn't make any logical sense.

I think there are some remarkable super kids about to take over the world. Gawd knows the world sure needs 'em.

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Response to loudsue (Reply #41)

Tue Feb 4, 2014, 12:38 AM

43. From your mouth to Gawds ear, loudsue!

Love that child.

he doesn't want to go to church because all the stuff in the bible isn't true. He tells them it doesn't make any logical sense.

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Response to sheshe2 (Reply #43)

Tue Feb 4, 2014, 12:52 AM

47. You should see this little guy. He looks up into his parents faces and says

You KNOW all that stuff isn't possible! Right???? Like, he can't get over that they believe it all.

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Response to loudsue (Reply #41)

Tue Feb 4, 2014, 01:11 AM

52. My son was five

When he started refusing to go to church. Of course that was some time after his Sunday school teacher had a chat with me that he was confusing the other children with his questions and comments. Of course, she couldn't answer the questions. Lol

His matter of fact assertion - those stories are so silly. It's impossible (the flood, Noah's ark, etc) dor any of it to be TRUE! and just silly to think some old guy is quote up there floating around in some heaven place above the stars - Snort. You can't be 'above the stars', they're all over the universe! - - that gave me the courage to accept my perennial "lack of faith" and embrace the doubts I had harbored since MY childhood, but was too afraid (brainwashed) to entertain beyond some psychological justification. Religous gerrymandering of the mind, as it were.

"And a child shall lead them . . ." (No pun intended. Ok, maybe a little one.)

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Response to sheshe2 (Original post)

Tue Feb 4, 2014, 12:33 AM

42. IQ 210 Kim Ung-Yong always impressed me doing calculus at age 4 on TV.

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Response to Lucky Luciano (Reply #42)

Tue Feb 4, 2014, 11:41 AM

70. “Society should not judge anyone with unilateral standards"

http://view.koreaherald.com/kh/view.php?ud=20101006000616&cpv=0

‘Record IQ is just another talent’
Former whiz kid feels happy with ordinary life despite media expectations
Published : 2010-10-06 17:10

CHEONGJU, North Chung­cheong Province ― What will people think of 16-month-old wonder child Jonathon Rader, able to play various musical instruments, if he decides not to pursue a career as a musician?

The answer seems to be “a failure,” when hearing the story from Kim Ung-yong, a 48-year-old record holder for the world’s highest intelligence quotient, in an interview with The Korea Herald.

“I was famous for having a 210 IQ and being able to solve intricate math equations at the age of four,” Kim said, adding, “Apparently, the media belittled the fact that I chose to work in a business planning department at Chungbuk Development Corporation.”

Kim says the media denounced him as a “failed Genius” but he has no idea why his life, which he considers a success, had to be called a failure.

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Response to jsr (Reply #70)

Tue Feb 4, 2014, 06:22 PM

97. I read about that as well - he seems pretty well adjusted and desires a simple life. nt

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Response to sheshe2 (Original post)

Tue Feb 4, 2014, 12:48 AM

45. My son was reading a few months before his 3rd birthday,

although at a pretty rudimentary level. Before he was 5, he was reading at a high adult level, and made a friend of mine's wife cry because she couldn't understand what he was saying.

When he took a bunch of aptitude tests, he thought it would be fun to do it was fast as he could, as opposed to the best he could. The tests, however much or little you believe in that kind of thing, pegged his IQ at 162.

And.....he never finished high school.

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Response to BobTheSubgenius (Reply #45)

Tue Feb 4, 2014, 12:53 AM

48. Oh my!

That's amazing Bob. You must be so proud of him.

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Response to BobTheSubgenius (Reply #45)

Tue Feb 4, 2014, 12:58 AM

50. What did he go on to do?

Since he didn't finish high school…

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Response to BobTheSubgenius (Reply #45)

Tue Feb 4, 2014, 02:34 AM

59. Your last line is . . . not surprising, for a child like that.

People who work with gifted children know that they finish high school in lower percentages than more typical children do. It can be hard for a child at that level to find a place to fit in.

I hope he found his way ahead, even if he didn't take the usual path.

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Response to pnwmom (Reply #59)

Tue Feb 4, 2014, 03:44 PM

85. A lot of smart kids drop out and get a GED because they are bored.

A friend of mine's son dropped out and she insisted he get a GED.
He got a letter from the University of Chicago telling him they wanted to send him to Cambridge University to study physics, which he did.

That's where Stephen Hawking teaches.

The kid travels all over Europe juggling and writing papers on the physics of juggling.

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Response to sheshe2 (Original post)

Tue Feb 4, 2014, 01:00 AM

51. She also has an IQ of OMG THAT KID IS SO CUTE I COULD POP! nt

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Response to tblue37 (Reply #51)

Tue Feb 4, 2014, 01:47 AM

54. She sure is, tblue. n/t

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Response to sheshe2 (Original post)

Tue Feb 4, 2014, 01:45 AM

53. My daughter learned advanced algebra at age 2,

got a B.A. with honors in physics at age 4, and instead of pursuing a doctorate in physics and philosophy was recruited into a top secret project by a lettered agency where she now lives at an undisclosed location, working on a plan to fuck over the entire planet.

Not that I'm bragging or anything. After all, at age 1 our daughter already explained that she was not only smarter than her parents but had nothing more to learn from them - even tho' we both graduated summa cum laude in our doctoral programs.

Raising our daughter has been a humbling experience, indeed.

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Response to delrem (Reply #53)

Tue Feb 4, 2014, 03:44 PM

86. impressive

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Response to delrem (Reply #53)

Tue Feb 4, 2014, 04:07 PM

93. does she acuse chestnuts of being lazy ?

 


or claim she invented the question mark ?

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Response to NM_Birder (Reply #93)

Tue Feb 4, 2014, 04:19 PM

94. she bounces on the couch a lot

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Response to delrem (Reply #94)

Tue Feb 4, 2014, 04:21 PM

95. is it...an "evil" couch ?

 


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Response to delrem (Reply #53)

Wed Feb 5, 2014, 02:32 PM

104. Sooo....

When the lettered agency wreaks its havoc, do you get to be in the safehouse by virtue of being this wonder child's parents, or do you burn like the rest of us?

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Response to sheshe2 (Original post)

Tue Feb 4, 2014, 01:57 AM

56. How could they tell she knew the alphabet at four months?

Astounding. I wonder what she will take up in the long run. Still a kid, though - dinosaurs! Kids just love them.

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Response to sheshe2 (Original post)

Tue Feb 4, 2014, 01:57 AM

57. Mensa... People obsessed with their intelligence. nt

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Response to longship (Reply #57)

Sun May 31, 2015, 02:30 PM

121. Are you really willing to speak with authority about this, or are you just sad?

 

Sad, or confused, or something else?

Gifted people of all sorts suffer from being treated as outcasts.

I would have thought that people would be able to be compassionate about it and not insulting.

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Response to sheshe2 (Original post)

Tue Feb 4, 2014, 02:10 AM

58. "I'm FOUR and smarter than my parents" -- OK, let's talk turkey here:

I think most four years olds can say that with complete accuracy and honesty -- just think what you learned from birth to four, and imagine where you'd be now if you'd kept up the same rate of learning: you'd speak a dozen languages by middle age, and you'd have amazing control of your body: shizz, you'd probably have conscious control of your heart-rate and blood-pressure, be able to sweat or not at will, and you'd consciously crank your body temperature up and down to deal with the weather

Why can't we do all that? Face it: we've been slackers

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Response to struggle4progress (Reply #58)

Tue Feb 4, 2014, 02:36 AM

60. I think every 4 year old thinks that, and she might be in a lot of ways.

Unimportant ways, like being an encyclopedia of dinosaurs.

But real wisdom, as opposed to minds like little calculators, does come with age.

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Response to pnwmom (Reply #60)

Tue Feb 4, 2014, 12:02 PM

73. Wisdom comes with experience, not age, but right on otherwise. n/t

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Response to struggle4progress (Reply #58)

Tue Feb 4, 2014, 12:00 PM

72. FYI, I, like most mammals can regulate my body temperature.

I don't like to brag about it though.

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Response to FSogol (Reply #72)

Tue Feb 4, 2014, 01:31 PM

82. If you have conscious control of your body temp, then I am impressed

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Response to sheshe2 (Original post)

Tue Feb 4, 2014, 02:37 AM

61. For heaven's sake don't showcase her!

She will spend the rest of her life trying to live up to high expectations. Let her be four-years-old!

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Response to Laffy Kat (Reply #61)

Tue Feb 4, 2014, 04:14 AM

65. +1

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Response to sheshe2 (Original post)

Tue Feb 4, 2014, 03:04 AM

63. Now there's a brain the right wing will be after!

 

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Response to sheshe2 (Original post)

Tue Feb 4, 2014, 04:16 AM

66. I have mixed feelings about this.

I was a "special" kid and the expectations that went along with that nearly destroyed me.

Forty some years later and my parents are still apologizing.

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Response to MadrasT (Reply #66)

Tue Feb 4, 2014, 04:30 AM

67. +1. nt

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Response to MadrasT (Reply #66)

Tue Feb 4, 2014, 12:41 PM

76. Agree. n/t

 

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Response to MadrasT (Reply #66)

Tue Feb 4, 2014, 01:09 PM

81. I sincerely hope they don't go the reality show route.

 

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Response to sheshe2 (Original post)

Tue Feb 4, 2014, 11:44 AM

71. I hope the little smartie changes her name!

Awful name... although clearly her parents are doing something right, they sure picked a lousy first name for her.

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Response to Quantess (Reply #71)

Tue Feb 4, 2014, 12:46 PM

77. The name is beautiful and has meaning.

 

Anala
The name Anala is a baby girl name.
Hindi Meaning:
The name Anala is a Hindi baby name. In Hindi the meaning of the name Anala is: Fiery.

You would probably hate mine too. I've only met one other Bianca in my life, but I've met a few Anala's. Nice girls too.

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Response to bravenak (Reply #77)

Wed Feb 5, 2014, 12:54 PM

102. I ain't in MENSA, but I suspect that the comment referred to Ms Beevers' surname.

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Response to Orrex (Reply #102)

Wed Feb 5, 2014, 01:50 PM

103. That's weird.

 

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Response to Orrex (Reply #102)

Wed Feb 5, 2014, 02:49 PM

106. No.

Although the combination of the first and last names WILL guaranteed, subject her to some teasing.
I just don't get someone calling their child a variant of anal. At least, that's what I first thought of, when I saw Anala- "anal". Hey, I'm just being honest here. I think it's an unfortunate name.

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Response to Quantess (Reply #106)

Wed Feb 5, 2014, 03:16 PM

109. Kids are indeed cruel.

I confess that you spotted one that I hadn't considered.

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Response to Orrex (Reply #109)

Wed Feb 5, 2014, 03:47 PM

110. You hadn't considered the "anal" in Anala? OK, obviously the parents hadn't either.

Nobody will be able to pronounce the name well enough to anyone's satisfaction.

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Response to Quantess (Reply #110)

Wed Feb 5, 2014, 03:55 PM

111. No, I hadn't considered anal, but thanks for asking.

In terms of pronunciation, "un-NAH-lah" seems pretty satisfactory, but what do I know?

Though now that you've mentioned it, the unfortunate joke is impossible to un-see.

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Response to Orrex (Reply #111)

Wed Feb 5, 2014, 09:54 PM

116. Sorry, I just think it's not a good name.

I "stole" the name Quantess from a little black girl, because it's such a great name. Now that is a good first name!

Anala is not a good first name, it just reminds me of "anal", sorry. I don't intend to pick on the girl's name the whole time, but I think she'd be wise to change it to something less anal sounding.

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Response to Quantess (Reply #116)

Wed Feb 5, 2014, 10:07 PM

117. I should perhaps state clearly that I agree with you

Just took me a few posts to realize it.

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Response to Orrex (Reply #117)

Wed Feb 5, 2014, 10:27 PM

118. you get what I'm thinking. Anyway.

My grand suggestion, to those who are expecting daughters: name your daughter Quantess. That is an excellent first name! Please, nothing that reminds us of an anus.

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Response to bravenak (Reply #77)

Wed Feb 5, 2014, 04:14 PM

113. I think Anala, is a beautiful name.

It means Fiery, I would say that it suits her.

I like yours too, Bianca.

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Response to sheshe2 (Original post)

Tue Feb 4, 2014, 12:51 PM

79. amazing....

 

I've always had an interest in child prodigies.

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Response to sheshe2 (Original post)

Tue Feb 4, 2014, 03:12 PM

84. I wonder how many more weeks (days?) will pass before

she starts asking her parents questions they literally can't answer.

145 IQ at age four? Wooo, damn! She's just a few points behind me and I'm 28! Her parents should write down everything they did with her and make a book. I know I'd buy it. If I ever have a kid, or kids, I want them to be like Anala. We should figure out the factors behind brilliant children like her.

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Response to sheshe2 (Original post)

Tue Feb 4, 2014, 03:46 PM

87. Alphabet at 4 Months

I think they may be underestimating her intellectual capacity.

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Response to sheshe2 (Original post)

Tue Feb 4, 2014, 04:06 PM

92. I feel particularly humbled when I read of even the typical genius...

I feel particularly humbled when I read of even the typical genius, but reading of a four year old whose IQ is vastly greater than mine takes that humility into uncharted waters of humazing (humility + amazing-- a new word I coined for less than clever people like myself).

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Response to sheshe2 (Original post)

Wed Feb 5, 2014, 02:38 PM

105. Am I

the only one who finds this questionable?

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Response to RobinA (Reply #105)

Wed Feb 5, 2014, 02:54 PM

107. Why? Because her name is Anala Beevers?

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Response to Quantess (Reply #107)

Wed Feb 5, 2014, 04:12 PM

112. I'm Not Sure

what her name has to do with it. Alphabet at 4 months? Four month olds can't even see that well, let alone communicate letters. If she did know the alphabet, how would we know? I dunno, seems a tad much.

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Response to RobinA (Reply #112)

Wed Feb 5, 2014, 04:18 PM

114. Kind of like walking at 6 months. Both are not physically possible. But oh, those eyes! Still

 

a darn smart little girl. Sounds like her parents are on the right track giving her opportunities. The hardest will be keeping egos and expectations within the chronological and emotional age range.

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