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n2doc

(47,953 posts)
Sat Mar 1, 2014, 08:12 AM Mar 2014

Georgia Gov. Deal- Cut access to the ER for poor people.

Gov. Nathan Deal has often called on Congress to reconsider the Affordable Care Act. But on Monday evening, he pushed his former Washington colleagues to revisit a separate health care law that fewer politicians openly critique.

The Emergency Medical Treatment and Labor Act is a 1986 law that requires hospitals to provide emergency health care treatment to anyone who needs it, regardless of citizenship or their ability to pay. It’s provided life-saving care to countless people, but it’s also strained hospital resources and turned emergency rooms into the first stop, instead of a last resort, for some.

“If they really want to get serious about lowering the cost of health care in this country, they would revisit another federal statute that has been there for a long time,” Deal told a crowd of dozens at a University of Georgia political science alumni gathering. “It came as a result of bad facts, and we have a saying that bad facts make bad law.”

Legislative supporters in the 1980s cited cases of pregnant women being turned away from emergency rooms because they couldn’t pay. Deal, who long served on a key House health panel, said lawmakers can build in protections for pregnant women and others while tightening access to ERs in other ways. Said the governor:

“I think we should be able in this passage of time to figure out ways to deal with those situations but not have the excessive costs associated with unnecessary visits to the emergency room.”

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http://www.times-herald.com/local/20140225-deal-ER2014-02-25T11-11-11

That's crooked Deal for ya- if you are uninsured and poor, go die in a ditch.

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Georgia Gov. Deal- Cut access to the ER for poor people. (Original Post) n2doc Mar 2014 OP
Our governors Feral Child Mar 2014 #1
Every time I think we have reached the bottom of the barrel, brer cat Mar 2014 #4
Thanks, brer cat! Feral Child Mar 2014 #40
Can't pay? Well die already. It's the Republican way. nt MrScorpio Mar 2014 #2
Don't get SICK !!! SamKnause Mar 2014 #3
Evil. That's all there is to it. LuvNewcastle Mar 2014 #5
+ 1 woo me with science Mar 2014 #22
Same old Republican Health Care Plan: Die Quickly. nt truebluegreen Mar 2014 #6
No Deal! And you can take that Every Way Possible! Demeter Mar 2014 #7
Ammo for Carter. nt Ilsa Mar 2014 #8
Rachel Maddow covered this Friday night Sienna86 Mar 2014 #9
So, FDR gave us the New Deal .. ananda Mar 2014 #10
What an idea. surrealAmerican Mar 2014 #11
No, the healthcare industry is far too profitable for that to be a reasonable approach. Crunchy Frog Mar 2014 #23
The race to the bottom is going through the basement floor. NO surprise. kairos12 Mar 2014 #12
Millions, perhaps tens of millions of people will agree with this, to their own detriment. jtuck004 Mar 2014 #13
But but but but REAGAN signed that! nt valerief Mar 2014 #14
In 1986, when the law was passed, freedom fighter jh Mar 2014 #15
Good post. Thanks. n/t Laelth Mar 2014 #38
What a creep! hrmjustin Mar 2014 #16
Universal health care would also take care of that problem, guv'nor. tanyev Mar 2014 #17
and supposedly the ACA would take care of most of it rurallib Mar 2014 #24
He has refused to expand medicaid coverage under the ACA n2doc Mar 2014 #26
Exactly n2doc! And public hospitals are closing due to lack of funds in Georgia kmlisle Mar 2014 #28
Yes..... Swede Atlanta Mar 2014 #35
+1. historylovr Mar 2014 #36
This is fucking horrible. Enthusiast Mar 2014 #18
EXACTLY what I was thinking. Little makes me more sick than the Mammon worshiping supply side Jesus TheKentuckian Mar 2014 #39
The bumper stickers should be simple malaise Mar 2014 #19
Next step of course... durablend Mar 2014 #20
Denying poor women emergency treatment is a GOP virtue Politicub Mar 2014 #21
Still not ONE word in any Georgia press about this Glitterati Mar 2014 #25
What a suprise.... giftedgirl77 Mar 2014 #27
Stunning, isn't it? Glitterati Mar 2014 #29
I live down here right on the border of GA & SC giftedgirl77 Mar 2014 #30
It's a pretty heartbreaking state to live in Glitterati Mar 2014 #33
My parents are in FL... giftedgirl77 Mar 2014 #37
Of course not n2doc Mar 2014 #32
that's where I heard about it too CatWoman Mar 2014 #41
It's infuriating Glitterati Mar 2014 #42
Who Would Jesus Admit To The ER? jsr Mar 2014 #31
More of those "deeply held beliefs" Glitterati Mar 2014 #34
Jason Carter for Georgia Governor 2014 Chiquitita Mar 2014 #43

brer cat

(24,565 posts)
4. Every time I think we have reached the bottom of the barrel,
Sat Mar 1, 2014, 08:31 AM
Mar 2014

they dig down and find someone even worse. Deal is pure slime.

A belated welcome to DU, Feral Child.

Sienna86

(2,149 posts)
9. Rachel Maddow covered this Friday night
Sat Mar 1, 2014, 09:02 AM
Mar 2014

What kind of evil inhabits the heart and minds of those who actively seek to cause harm to others?

surrealAmerican

(11,360 posts)
11. What an idea.
Sat Mar 1, 2014, 09:09 AM
Mar 2014

... and guess what, we could lower health care costs even more by just closing down all the hospitals, and not paying doctors ever! There couldn't possibly be any downside to this - just think how much money we'd save!

Crunchy Frog

(26,582 posts)
23. No, the healthcare industry is far too profitable for that to be a reasonable approach.
Sat Mar 1, 2014, 11:00 AM
Mar 2014

You need to structure the system in such a way that you relieve people of all their assets, and then leave them to die in a ditch when they can't pay anymore. That way the healthcare system can do its job of milking all the money that they possibly can off of human suffering.

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
13. Millions, perhaps tens of millions of people will agree with this, to their own detriment.
Sat Mar 1, 2014, 09:45 AM
Mar 2014

One more piece of the country to destroy.

freedom fighter jh

(1,782 posts)
15. In 1986, when the law was passed,
Sat Mar 1, 2014, 10:00 AM
Mar 2014

hospitals were being converted from non-profit status to profit status. Probably, I'm guessing, this law was passed to palliate those who objected, to take away the worst -- or maybe just the most obvious -- problems that arose from that change.

By now no one any longer questions that hospitals should be run for profit, so the law is not needed anymore. At least it's not needed to keep hospitals making money.

tanyev

(42,556 posts)
17. Universal health care would also take care of that problem, guv'nor.
Sat Mar 1, 2014, 10:04 AM
Mar 2014

But I'm guessing he's not in favor of that.

rurallib

(62,414 posts)
24. and supposedly the ACA would take care of most of it
Sat Mar 1, 2014, 11:01 AM
Mar 2014

on paper anyway by insuring everyone (I am a staunch single payer advocate BTW)
Were Medicaid implemented the way it was passed many of those who use the ER would be covered.
Of course, The Roberts court and Republican governors fucked that one up.

n2doc

(47,953 posts)
26. He has refused to expand medicaid coverage under the ACA
Sat Mar 1, 2014, 11:03 AM
Mar 2014

He has been proud to deny Georgians health care.

kmlisle

(276 posts)
28. Exactly n2doc! And public hospitals are closing due to lack of funds in Georgia
Sat Mar 1, 2014, 11:15 AM
Mar 2014

Because they did not expand medicaid. Many of them are rural hospitals and probably the only game in town for the locals. This is Deal's real problem (although he is not the "real deal&quot . The part of the ACA that would have funded these hospitals - Medicaid- was refused by "No Deal" and now Hospitals will close and more people will suffer and die because of it.

 

Swede Atlanta

(3,596 posts)
35. Yes.....
Sat Mar 1, 2014, 11:58 AM
Mar 2014

The majority of the closures are occurring in rural Georgia (or at least "small town" Georgia) and not in the metro Atlanta area.

What is amazing to me is that the areas outside of metro Atlanta are, by and large, redder than red whereas the closer you get to metro Atlanta and within metro Atlanta you see more purples and even blues.

So the governor is carried to office on the backs of rural Georgians. The Georgia Congressional delegation is dominated by Republicans that come from across the state but especially outside metro Atlanta.

I have a hard time understanding how people can continuously vote against their own self-interests. Sadly in Georgia there are two major reasons for this. The first is race. Racism is alive and well in Georgia (see Deal's recent comment that introducing a confederate flag version of the state license plate is consistent with honoring the state's cultural heritage).

The second is old time religion. I have several "acquaintances" who have openly told me they don't listen to the news (I'm sure Fox is on 24 x 7), watch any debates or otherwise engage in evaluating political candidates, ballot measures, etc. They go to church 2 Sundays before election day and get a handout from their church that tells them who and what to vote for. One of them showed me the pamphlet that was given in 2004.

There was a listing of all of the state-wide races including President, Congress, Senate followed by local races in metro Atlanta. There wasn't a statement of "vote for" but the list had both candidates and then and "*" that denoted 'recommended". As to ballot initiatives it was the same, especially for the anti-gay marriage amendment.

There was no justification for the endorsements. This "acquaintance" said she always takes her pamphlet into the voting booth so she can "get it right with God".

Enough said.

Luckily demographics are not favorable for Republicans in Georgia. Certainly the influx from other areas of the country as companies move headquarters and establish operations in "right to work" Georgia has had an impact. I am part of that demographic. But as well the white majority will soon be a minority in the state. Black population has not grown significantly but there have been marked increases in Asian and Hispanic groups.

Hispanics should be a natural target for Republicans. Many hispanics are Catholic and generally fairly conservative. Republicans could use the strong Christian tradition among Hispanics to attract them to a party that is anti-abortion, anti-gay, etc. But instead they launch wholesale attacks on undocumented workers, the poor, etc.

This has pushed this demographic into the arms of the Democratic Party. As the population becomes less and less white and also less old (state politics is controlled almost universally by fat, old white men) the political landscape is going to come and the Republicans either don't see it coming or are trying to wish it away.

TheKentuckian

(25,026 posts)
39. EXACTLY what I was thinking. Little makes me more sick than the Mammon worshiping supply side Jesus
Sat Mar 1, 2014, 04:58 PM
Mar 2014

sick fucks.

durablend

(7,460 posts)
20. Next step of course...
Sat Mar 1, 2014, 10:15 AM
Mar 2014

Require full disclosure of financial records before admittance for everyone else (save for the 'special people' with $$$$...wouldn't want to inconvenience them). Non qualifying persons will be advised "We're sorry, but space in our establishment is not available for you".

Still think "conservatives" don't want a country for only the rich? Anyone? Bueller?

Politicub

(12,165 posts)
21. Denying poor women emergency treatment is a GOP virtue
Sat Mar 1, 2014, 10:20 AM
Mar 2014

It's cruel and psychotic. And if this kind of thing gets the GOP base excited, just imagine what they have in store if they ever get 3 branches of government again.

 

Glitterati

(3,182 posts)
25. Still not ONE word in any Georgia press about this
Sat Mar 1, 2014, 11:03 AM
Mar 2014

Not ONE word in the local Georgia papers about Nathan Deal's little "solution."

Check out the AJC:
http://www.ajc.com/

Or the on air news channels, ABC/NBC/FOX/CBS
http://www.wsbtv.com/
http://www.11alive.com/
http://www.myfoxatlanta.com/

I saw it on Rachael last night and started watching for any local press mentions of this.........not a word still.

 

Glitterati

(3,182 posts)
29. Stunning, isn't it?
Sat Mar 1, 2014, 11:26 AM
Mar 2014

Poor Rachael. She's such a supporter of local reporters and she'll soon find she has to carry this story all by herself because there's not a local who has the courage to report it.

 

giftedgirl77

(4,713 posts)
30. I live down here right on the border of GA & SC
Sat Mar 1, 2014, 11:32 AM
Mar 2014

I would be shocked to see anything like that reported here. Hell I saw a campaign ad for Lindsey Graham the other day & I would've sworn up & down it was a negative ad, nope it was his own ad talking about all the negative shit he has done in DC. I was blown over.

 

Glitterati

(3,182 posts)
33. It's a pretty heartbreaking state to live in
Sat Mar 1, 2014, 11:39 AM
Mar 2014

Ugly abounds.

If my whole family wasn't here, I'd move so far away.........

I do think, however, this is more of that Republican "deeply held beliefs" they were trying so hard to legislate right along side Arizona.

 

giftedgirl77

(4,713 posts)
37. My parents are in FL...
Sat Mar 1, 2014, 01:31 PM
Mar 2014

We got stationed at FT Gordon, I was medically retired in December hubby has 4 years to go. Thankfully my best friend got out of the military & moved to the same town as me or I would lose my mind. I stick out like a sore thumb but she is here & dad just got diagnosed with cancer in the spine (already lost a leg & a lung) so I'm not going anywhere either.

CatWoman

(79,301 posts)
41. that's where I heard about it too
Sat Mar 1, 2014, 06:09 PM
Mar 2014

and I also scanned the AJC and local stations.

Not. one. fucking. WORD!!!

 

Glitterati

(3,182 posts)
42. It's infuriating
Sat Mar 1, 2014, 06:16 PM
Mar 2014

Yet, every right winger screams "liberal media" in the comments of every article on the AJC.

If it weren't so sad, it would be hysterical.

Chiquitita

(752 posts)
43. Jason Carter for Georgia Governor 2014
Sat Mar 1, 2014, 07:04 PM
Mar 2014

Just met him at a campaign dinner this week. Carter's got the goods. Would love to see him send Deal packing.

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