Oh noes. we need a new war.

[cali]

Ukraine won't sell. where should our next military adventure take place? Nigeria? Lots of oil, lots of western corporations doing business there, lots of massacres and fundamentalist groups, lots of splits to exploit. Syria? We could always revisit Syria and it almost did sell.

I don't think President Obama would like to preside over another war and I don't think he's anything but reluctant to send forces anywhere, but there are powerful interests that absolutely want the U.S. engaged militarily.

[rug]

1. The Ukraine announced it's mobilizing in four and half hours.

[steve2470]

4. joking ? nt

[rug]

5. I wish.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014742806#post1

[steve2470]

6. oh shit

Thanks for the link. This is going to get really bloody really soon.

[Jackpine Radical]

2. I've taken it for granted for some time that parts of sub-Saharan Africa

are going to end up in our bombsights. No, Obama won't go there (I trust and fervently hope), but you may be sure that the oily Neocons have plans already.

[Lydia Leftcoast]

3. I think the neocons are itching to go into Venezuela

1. It has oil

2. They failed last time

3. There is a sizable opposition

4. The supply lines would be relatively short

[BainsBane]

7. Do you want war or something?

Because nobody else is talking about. I haven't heard one person who knows anything about foreign policy or the administration say anything but there is zero chance the US will act militarily in the Ukraine. Ginning up war hysteria is irresponsible.

[arely staircase]

8. we are not about to get in a war with Russia

period. Nor should we.

[cali]

9. I think I said that.

[arely staircase]

11. I don't think I was arguing with you. nt

[Junkdrawer]

10. Agreed. It's the "Now or Never" imperative that scares me....

The #1 military is running into real world constraints on its growth while #2 seems to be growing rapidly with no limits in sight. (shades of Britain and Germany circa 1913)....

Does #1 peacefully slide into the #2 slot, or does it pick a fight while it's still #1? How will nuclear weapons figure into the calculations?

[Iggo]

12. Ain't no bad-guy like a cold war bad-guy.

[Pretzel_Warrior]

13. I do think the U.S. and allies should start fuckinf with Russia utilizing

Sanctions, assets freezes, cyber war, and any other measures of physical military engagement

Oh, and thanks for hand delivering national security secrets to Putin, you fucking slag, Snowden.

[cali]

14. so you think that there should be U.S. military engagement?

you are flailing about even more than usual, pretz, old boy. Love the gratuitous Snowden line. Brilliant!

Er. Not.

[dlwickham]

15. should the US just sit by while Russia invades

how bad do you think it should get before we do intervene

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

19. You mean like our glorious interventions in Vietnam and Afghanistan?

Where we "protected" the people to the tune of 3,000,000 dead?

[dlwickham]

22. I'm asking a simple question about Ukraine

what's acceptable before we intervene

[cali]

23. No, I don't think the U.S. should engage militarily in Ukraine. Period.

Are you entertaining some fantasy of Russian genocide. Sorry, I don't play silly games.

[WhiteTara]

16. oh noes we don't and President Obama has been skillful at

keeping us out...here's to that continuing.

May I be safe.
May All beings be safe.
May I free from suffering.
May All beings be free from suffering.
May I have peace.
May All beings have peace.

[L0oniX]

17. Well it will be easier to move over to the Ukraine from Afhgan than to bring all that war shit home.

It's a cost savings move. Hey as long as the MIC is happy and stock holders get richer. It's war crapitalism for the rich.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

18. But..but..if we don't have one..the MIC might have to cut it's budget again!!

And, we the people won't have exciting videos of drones and missiles and stuff to watch...before we lose another war.

[jsr]

20. It's none of our business. We should stay out of other people's clusterfuck.

[MisterP]

21. I thought it'd be Gabon next

"they hate their wimmin and they did Air France Flight 447!!!!!1111"