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CreekDog

(46,192 posts)
Sun Mar 2, 2014, 11:31 PM Mar 2014

The Civil Rights Act makes it illegal for businesses to discriminate on the basis of race.

However, if the business posts a sign which says, "We reserve the right to refuse service to anyone."

This means that:


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The sign does not allow them to legally refuse to serve all black people
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The sign allows them to legally refuse to serve all black people
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The Civil Rights Act makes it illegal for businesses to discriminate on the basis of race. (Original Post) CreekDog Mar 2014 OP
The sign doesn't over ride the civil rights act el_bryanto Mar 2014 #1
you're correct on the sign CreekDog Mar 2014 #2
i never thought about it much in a legal way because i just assumed it JI7 Mar 2014 #3
when issues of discrimination and businesses come up on DU... CreekDog Mar 2014 #6
As the poll is written I'd have to take the second option, because cthulu2016 Mar 2014 #4
the best answer is the second one? CreekDog Mar 2014 #5
"This means that" the business owner knows nothing about the law. WinkyDink Mar 2014 #7

el_bryanto

(11,804 posts)
1. The sign doesn't over ride the civil rights act
Sun Mar 2, 2014, 11:34 PM
Mar 2014

But so long as they let some black people eat there they could discriminate against most - i.e. if they made it about behaivor rather than skin color - even a tenuous connection might hold up.

I think anyway - i could be wrong.

Bryant

CreekDog

(46,192 posts)
2. you're correct on the sign
Mon Mar 3, 2014, 02:48 AM
Mar 2014

however, you're incorrect about just letting a few black folks in.

if they turn away most blacks, and don't turn away most whites, that's a case.

JI7

(89,249 posts)
3. i never thought about it much in a legal way because i just assumed it
Mon Mar 3, 2014, 03:26 AM
Mar 2014

had to do with people who cause trouble and telling them to get out and stay away.

i'm guessing if someone can prove they were discriminated because of something like race it would be illegal.

CreekDog

(46,192 posts)
6. when issues of discrimination and businesses come up on DU...
Mon Mar 3, 2014, 12:36 PM
Mar 2014

we usually get a small percentage of users that think that a sign like I talked about in the above gives them the right to refuse to serve people for any reason (religion, race, etc.)

it doesn't, but I would like to know how prevalent that wrong thinking is here.

cthulu2016

(10,960 posts)
4. As the poll is written I'd have to take the second option, because
Mon Mar 3, 2014, 03:33 AM
Mar 2014

the second option should read, "The sign allows them to legally refuse to serve all black people while continuing to serve white people."

As written, since the business has the right to not serve any people at all, that group (all people) would include the subset all black people.

But no, such a sign does no allow racial discrimination.

All bars are empowered to refuse alcohol to people who strike them as drunk, unruly, unpredictable or just sketchy, which is a tremendous amount of discretion, but even that wide latitude does not include racial discrimination.

Racial discrimination in a public restaurant is unlawful, by federal law, and thus cannot be trumped by any store policy, or even any state law.

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