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Cha

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Mon Mar 3, 2014, 06:02 PM Mar 2014

#Veteran's FB Post to Paul Ryan Goes Viral.. Update..

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#Veteran’s Facebook Post To Paul Ryan Goes Viral: http://ow.ly/29ynU3 #occupy #LibCrib #tcot #VFW #DAV #SOV #p2
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[font color=red]EDIT:[/font] Wonder how CMS Wooten feels about this?



Senate Republicans have blocked a Democratic bill that would enrich health, education and job-training programs for the nation's 22 million veterans.

Republicans complained that the bill was too expensive. And they were upset that Majority Leader Harry Reid prevented a vote on a GOP amendment cutting the bill and adding sanctions against Iran for its nuclear program.

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http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/02/27/1280922/-With-just-41-votes-Republican-senators-block-veterans-benefits-bill
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#Veteran's FB Post to Paul Ryan Goes Viral.. Update.. (Original Post) Cha Mar 2014 OP
.. Cha Mar 2014 #1
When do military members go from being Republican to Democrats? When they are injured or retire. nt okaawhatever Mar 2014 #2
And, most definitely when they pay Cha Mar 2014 #6
+1 BrotherIvan Mar 2014 #9
As long as Rush Limbaugh is allowed to broadcast his Hateful Propaganda unopposed Bandit Mar 2014 #23
+ 100 They_Live Mar 2014 #24
I didn't realize Rush was on AF Radio. That's disturbing. I know Fox is on in most of their okaawhatever Mar 2014 #29
Ed Schultz tried to get air time on AFRTS to counter the conservanazis' propagandist. TxVietVet Mar 2014 #66
Now that's being an activist! Evidently some true info is getting thru the Rush blockade. kelliekat44 Mar 2014 #62
republicans dont give a shit about how badly "they"& "those people " are treated until they are one leftyohiolib Mar 2014 #36
And even then ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2014 #59
Early On If They Are Smart ProgressiveJarhead Mar 2014 #46
To be honest, most in the military don't give a shit about politics one way or the other nt. Ex Lurker Mar 2014 #53
wrong... icarusxat Mar 2014 #57
My Dad was an officer in the Air Force. snort Mar 2014 #67
That's good to hear. WWII, Korea and Viet Nam does not an easy lifetime make. nt okaawhatever Mar 2014 #68
You'd think so, right? snort Mar 2014 #69
K&R Tarheel_Dem Mar 2014 #3
sweet! Pretzel_Warrior Mar 2014 #4
It sounds like Chief Master Sgt Wooten has the Cha Mar 2014 #7
I hope so. The last open revolt of service members against GOP didn't go so well for GOP Pretzel_Warrior Mar 2014 #8
There's so much brainwashing going on in this country Cha Mar 2014 #12
"We just try to get some semblance of reality out there." Enthusiast Mar 2014 #28
tea party refrain... icarusxat Mar 2014 #58
CMSgt Wooten rawks! Scuba Mar 2014 #5
Well gee, he seems all bent out of shape mindwalker_i Mar 2014 #10
Yeah, and the straw was when Paul Ayn Ryan sent him plea for a $20.00 Cha Mar 2014 #13
Yeah, "We f***** you over," mindwalker_i Mar 2014 #17
Slow to come aboard .... N_E_1 for Tennis Mar 2014 #14
Absolutely agree mindwalker_i Mar 2014 #16
Thanks, here's a little of my history ... N_E_1 for Tennis Mar 2014 #22
And I worked with many military in that 5-sided building erronis Mar 2014 #26
No, never was registered in VA. N_E_1 for Tennis Mar 2014 #61
Understood, definitely mindwalker_i Mar 2014 #33
CMS Wooten, sheshe2 Mar 2014 #11
Before we all adopt the Op, maybe we should read the full text. Blue State Bandit Mar 2014 #15
It does Blue State.. It reads Cha Mar 2014 #18
So you brought that Teabagger's anti-Democratic crap here. Nice! Luminous Animal Mar 2014 #54
I wonder how Wooten feels about this?.. Cha Mar 2014 #19
If he's getting a plea for dollars from Ryan Lifelong Protester Mar 2014 #20
Exactly. He's a bit confused about what is going on in Washington. progressoid Mar 2014 #40
Good catch. ctsnowman Mar 2014 #63
I assure you, he does not agree with any of us: Indydem Mar 2014 #21
+1 caraher Mar 2014 #42
Yeah, turns out he's full of Cha Mar 2014 #55
He's running for Congress as a repub in arizona sammytko Mar 2014 #25
Republican Hypocrisy ... they support the troops? napkinz Mar 2014 #27
K&R Your post! sheshe2 Mar 2014 #51
Republicon chickenhawkery is not welcomed by Americans Berlum Mar 2014 #30
My brother Cartoonist Mar 2014 #31
Here is what I posted on my page VA_Jill Mar 2014 #32
As a Vietnam Vet pacerbluedrum1949 Mar 2014 #34
welcome to DU, pacerbluedrum1949 Skittles Mar 2014 #37
I know pacer.. Cha Mar 2014 #41
Thanks for posting and welcome to DU. Yes, Wooten's a snake in the grass for blaming liberals. freshwest Mar 2014 #43
Another filibuster killed this bill. The majority voted to pass this bill. End the filibuster now. rhett o rick Mar 2014 #35
yup harry shares the blame on this and every bill that gets veoted. he had the chance a did nothing leftyohiolib Mar 2014 #38
To me the Dems cant say that they did all they could. nm rhett o rick Mar 2014 #39
K&R white cloud Mar 2014 #44
K & R Liberal_Dog Mar 2014 #45
Kick for the late crowd. riqster Mar 2014 #47
reTHUGS use veterans. they are their props and cannon fodder spanone Mar 2014 #48
This is true, spanone. Sociopaths that they are. Cha Mar 2014 #49
Ted Cruz czarjak Mar 2014 #50
Might as well be the list of Aerows Mar 2014 #52
Leave no one behind leanforward Mar 2014 #56
McCain's got his..... yuiyoshida Mar 2014 #60
Yes, but after the votes go their way, will they turn back to supporting the grand lying machine kelliekat44 Mar 2014 #64
Thanks for posting Cha pacerbluedrum1949 Mar 2014 #65
Use This During 2014 erpowers Mar 2014 #70
Knr. nuff said chknltl Mar 2014 #71
Happy to spread their shame xxqqqzme Mar 2014 #72

Cha

(297,187 posts)
6. And, most definitely when they pay
Mon Mar 3, 2014, 06:11 PM
Mar 2014

the fuck attention to how the gops are not supporting them in Congress.

BrotherIvan

(9,126 posts)
9. +1
Mon Mar 3, 2014, 06:16 PM
Mar 2014

It must feel like quite a bitter betrayal when the guys who waved the flag in your face are stabbing you repeatedly in the back. I hope many others see this and WAKE UP.

Bandit

(21,475 posts)
23. As long as Rush Limbaugh is allowed to broadcast his Hateful Propaganda unopposed
Mon Mar 3, 2014, 07:23 PM
Mar 2014

on Armed Forces Radio, the military will be mostly right wing....Propaganda works or they wouldn't invest so much into it.

okaawhatever

(9,461 posts)
29. I didn't realize Rush was on AF Radio. That's disturbing. I know Fox is on in most of their
Mon Mar 3, 2014, 07:37 PM
Mar 2014

barracks. Sad, just sad.

TxVietVet

(1,905 posts)
66. Ed Schultz tried to get air time on AFRTS to counter the conservanazis' propagandist.
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 11:39 AM
Mar 2014

The bu$h/cheney would have none of that. Lots of these vets assume the conservanazis support them. Far from the truth.

 

kelliekat44

(7,759 posts)
62. Now that's being an activist! Evidently some true info is getting thru the Rush blockade.
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 09:01 AM
Mar 2014

Now they need to learn about the Rushbo and his chicken-hawk history and the lies he tells.

 

leftyohiolib

(5,917 posts)
36. republicans dont give a shit about how badly "they"& "those people " are treated until they are one
Mon Mar 3, 2014, 09:00 PM
Mar 2014

until then " those people" are moochers and welfare queens and lazy and etc....

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
59. And even then ...
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 08:11 AM
Mar 2014

"they" and "those people" continue to be "moochers" and "welfare Queens" while some republican become one of "them" ... only that republican EARNED the benefit, while "they" and "those people" continue to be "moochers" and "welfare Queens" because "they" and "those people" are taking hand outs (See: Arkansas Representative Duncan.)

icarusxat

(403 posts)
57. wrong...
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 01:40 AM
Mar 2014

there are a lot of people in the military who care about politics, other peoples' mostly, and the sad thing is that they are the ones who are in control of promotion, retention, and jail time for those who dare to disagree...

snort

(2,334 posts)
67. My Dad was an officer in the Air Force.
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 12:26 PM
Mar 2014

Served 32 years. WW2, Korea and Viet Nam. Lifelong Democrat.

snort

(2,334 posts)
69. You'd think so, right?
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 12:47 PM
Mar 2014

Given the circumstances, Dad managed to be a relaxed and easy going guy most of the time. My Mother told me that when the Gulf War started, he was having nightmares. Dad was worried about the troops. I guess you never get over the shit, just learn to live with it if you're lucky. He passed last December at the age of 89.

 

Pretzel_Warrior

(8,361 posts)
8. I hope so. The last open revolt of service members against GOP didn't go so well for GOP
Mon Mar 3, 2014, 06:16 PM
Mar 2014

in 2006 elections when many Iraq war veteran officers ran for office and a number of them won.

Cha

(297,187 posts)
12. There's so much brainwashing going on in this country
Mon Mar 3, 2014, 06:35 PM
Mar 2014

who the fuck knows what's going to happen.

We just try to get some semblance of reality out there.

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
28. "We just try to get some semblance of reality out there."
Mon Mar 3, 2014, 07:31 PM
Mar 2014

We try to see through the various smoke screens, to decipher the hidden motives. to know the truth. The propaganda never stops for one moment and most of it is directed at the American people.

mindwalker_i

(4,407 posts)
10. Well gee, he seems all bent out of shape
Mon Mar 3, 2014, 06:19 PM
Mar 2014

I'm assuming he found out about how Repubs don't support troops, specifically don't fund the VA and take care of the troops after having sent them into nice little wars like Iraq. Dude's kind of slow.

mindwalker_i

(4,407 posts)
16. Absolutely agree
Mon Mar 3, 2014, 06:45 PM
Mar 2014

Sometimes it takes a while to understand that things people once thought to be true are no longer true, like "Republicans support the millitary." It's more appropriate now (and may have been before) that Republicans support USING the millitary.

N_E_1 for Tennis

(9,721 posts)
22. Thanks, here's a little of my history ...
Mon Mar 3, 2014, 07:16 PM
Mar 2014

I'm what they call in the military a FOG, fucking old guy.
I served during the Viet Nam "war". In intelligence and then
nuclear weapons. I was a Hippie in the Military, believe me, not the only one.

Most of the guys I served with were Dems, we all protested the war, in ranks and out.
Most of us had a college degree though. Now a days, we are protected by -let's just say - those of a lesser education. Critical thinking is not paramount, as it was years ago.

Once you enter battle, you change.

That change may be quick, maybe slower but you change. You reflect, you think.

You know that your being used, that's everyday, that's your reality.

Vets know.

Thank you for me letting this out. Nothing personal.

erronis

(15,241 posts)
26. And I worked with many military in that 5-sided building
Mon Mar 3, 2014, 07:30 PM
Mar 2014

Note that this didn't include many above a bird (Lt. Col.) My guess is that the higher-flying brass were just as pragmatic about their choices.

Most of them were not hawks at all. Most were thoughtful wouldn't have wanted to be engaged in any activities that weren't really defending their country. However, everyone gets slowly drawn into the drum-thumping.

There used to be a license tag in VA - 10SNE1 - that you?

N_E_1 for Tennis

(9,721 posts)
61. No, never was registered in VA.
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 08:59 AM
Mar 2014

Stationed mostly in NY and AL. Then around some.
Live in MI. Now.
Got the name from an old Cream song. Seemed appropriate on a left discussion board. Plus I love to play.

mindwalker_i

(4,407 posts)
33. Understood, definitely
Mon Mar 3, 2014, 08:29 PM
Mar 2014

I've always leaned far left in my thinking, both politically and just in the way I do work (I strongly tend to think up different and new ways of doing things). Back when I was a freshman in HS, a guy doing some maintenance asked me whether I was going to join the millitary after school and I said, essentially, hell no. I couldn't articulate it at the time, but just in general, I didn't trust the military to not get me killed with something stupid (like sending a ship into an irradiated zone), and that was a couple decades ago! Now, it's much worse.

Any kid going into the military is almost forfeiting their lives (ok, that's maybe a bit over the top). But after the stories about Fukishima, then the VA benefits being fillibustered, then just every-the-fuck-thing else, well, I can see why congress-people don't want their kids in the military.

sheshe2

(83,751 posts)
11. CMS Wooten,
Mon Mar 3, 2014, 06:31 PM
Mar 2014

Stay angry and spread the word.

The GOP not now, nor ever gave a Flying Fuck about you.

Glad the tweet went viral Cha!

Blue State Bandit

(2,122 posts)
15. Before we all adopt the Op, maybe we should read the full text.
Mon Mar 3, 2014, 06:43 PM
Mar 2014

He had me till I read this.

The very law you shattered in your zeal to impress your Democratic cohorts in your back room deal – with the enemy. Yes, I said it. The liberal Democrats are an enemy to the American people and our Nation.


Looks more like a case of Friendly Fire on the Right.

Lifelong Protester

(8,421 posts)
20. If he's getting a plea for dollars from Ryan
Mon Mar 3, 2014, 07:11 PM
Mar 2014

He's probably in WI-and I see #ourdumbsenator is certainly on the list. A**hole.

 

Indydem

(2,642 posts)
21. I assure you, he does not agree with any of us:
Mon Mar 3, 2014, 07:12 PM
Mar 2014

"The liberal Democrats are an enemy to the American people and our Nation.”

caraher

(6,278 posts)
42. +1
Mon Mar 3, 2014, 10:11 PM
Mar 2014

The enemy of my enemy is NOT always my friend...

"The very law you shattered in your zeal to impress your Democratic cohorts in your back room deal--with the enemy. Yes, I said it. The liberal Democrats are an enemy to the American people and our Nation. "

Cha

(297,187 posts)
55. Yeah, turns out he's full of
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 01:32 AM
Mar 2014

brainwashed shit. Paul Ryan happened to ask for money on the wrong day.

Berlum

(7,044 posts)
30. Republicon chickenhawkery is not welcomed by Americans
Mon Mar 3, 2014, 07:40 PM
Mar 2014

nor is the Republicon crapfest on American veterans welcome.

Cartoonist

(7,316 posts)
31. My brother
Mon Mar 3, 2014, 07:55 PM
Mar 2014

A lot of us, unfortunately, have family members we can hardly talk to anymore. I have one brother in the Navy who is a staunch republican. I seldom communicate with him, but I just had to know how he felt about this recent GOP filibuster. His reply:

"This is a no win argument, and I do not want to participate in it. If you wish to discuss any other topic other than politics, I would be happy to entertain."

He's never had any problem discussing politics before.

VA_Jill

(9,966 posts)
32. Here is what I posted on my page
Mon Mar 3, 2014, 08:11 PM
Mar 2014

I don't know how to put the picture up but it was a list of all 40 Republican senators by name, with the legend "40 Republican senators--and zero Democrats--voted to kill the Veterans jobs bill". Above the picture, here is what I wrote:
I take extreme umbrage at this. Both Senators from Tennessee are Republicans and my son is a veteran from Tennessee. Senators Alexander and Corker……shame on you! You voted to send these soldiers to war, but you won't help them now that they're home! You guys SUCK!

I should probably put it on Sen. Corker and Sen. Alexander's Facebook pages. I now live in Virginia and MY senators voted FOR the bill.

34. As a Vietnam Vet
Mon Mar 3, 2014, 08:35 PM
Mar 2014

As a Vietnam disabled Vet this is a travesty I'm sorry that this happened but reading his letter to go on say that the liberal Democrats are destroying our nation and the America as far as I'm concerned he's just another Republican that blames liberals for what their party does .Party Murry never wanted those cuts but it was Ryan that pushed just as they do on everything.Yeah that's right Sgt, Patty got Ryan in a head lock until he cried Uncle and I'll say again Your party came up with the idea.

Cha

(297,187 posts)
41. I know pacer..
Mon Mar 3, 2014, 10:01 PM
Mar 2014

It starts out dealing with reality and ends up blaming "liberal dems" for destroying America.

Turns out he has no clue. I probably shouldn't have posted it.. but there it is. That is one reason why I added the second graphic and wondered what CMS Wooten thought of the latest blockage for VETS by the Republicons in the Senate.

I thank you for your service all those years ago.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
35. Another filibuster killed this bill. The majority voted to pass this bill. End the filibuster now.
Mon Mar 3, 2014, 08:44 PM
Mar 2014

Dont worry about future damage when the Republicans are damaging us now.

 

leftyohiolib

(5,917 posts)
38. yup harry shares the blame on this and every bill that gets veoted. he had the chance a did nothing
Mon Mar 3, 2014, 09:07 PM
Mar 2014

about this abuse of bills

czarjak

(11,269 posts)
50. Ted Cruz
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 01:02 AM
Mar 2014

"Thank God for principled Senators like Ted Cruz." P.S. Actual quote from a genius in town.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
52. Might as well be the list of
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 01:05 AM
Mar 2014

"I might get defeated in the primaries by a teabagger, so I'd better act like one"

leanforward

(1,076 posts)
56. Leave no one behind
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 01:34 AM
Mar 2014

To me, these guys that voted against the bill are unpatriotic people. Not deserving to be called American. Their action to principal, tosses those individuals with unique needs on the trash heat. I've read informed my about some of the unique needs of our returning veterans. Pass the bill. Don't talk about offsets, if you or a member of your party didn't talk about offset or raising revenue for the prosecution of the Iraq and Afghanistan wars. This NO vote is leaving a troop behind.

 

kelliekat44

(7,759 posts)
64. Yes, but after the votes go their way, will they turn back to supporting the grand lying machine
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 09:02 AM
Mar 2014

called the GOP? I bet they will.

65. Thanks for posting Cha
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 11:33 AM
Mar 2014

Cha thank you for posting this info needs to get out,and frankly I have nothing against the Sgt being a Republican But I do AS A LIBERAL AMERICAN that got shot at had buddies that were LIBERAL that Were killed I take exception When anybody service man or not blame liberals for the nation's woes.Anybody with half a mind and not blinded by this veil of hate can see where the problem starts and ends .And one last thing Sarge did it bother you that the 8 million in food stamp cuts are going to have an I'll effect on many service families by the way That was a Republican idea or do you really care cause I got mine but I do care cause their messing with I don't know Sarge what do you think??

erpowers

(9,350 posts)
70. Use This During 2014
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 01:02 PM
Mar 2014

The Democratic Party needs to use this information during the 2014 election cycle. This is an example of the Republican Party not supporting military personnel. It should be used against each of the Republicans listed who are running for office.

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