Stupidity is not OK....

[Playinghardball]

[PowerToThePeople]

1. Always 9/11 gets tossed in with these others

What is your point?

The official story is, at minimum, NOT the whole truth.

Or, do you blindly believe Bush/Cheney/et al?

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3. I never understood the whole truther thing either

[PowerToThePeople]

4. I do not believe USA planned and executed 9/11

But, I also do not believe the story that was methodically force fed to the public either.

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5. Of course

But to watch someone like Rachel maddow denigrate truthers is akin to watching her defend Bush.

[PowerToThePeople]

6. I agree.

[nyquil_man]

7. The OP isn't referring to you, then. nt

[PowerToThePeople]

8. I know, but, the line is blurry

Slippery slope is used to discredit ANY questioning of the "official" 9/11 story.

[nyquil_man]

10. True enough.

That slippery slope is a tricky thing, though, as it's also used to condemn anyone who doesn't think 9/11 was an inside job as someone who blindly believes the "official story" as laid out by "Bush/Cheney/et al."

[PowerToThePeople]

11. Even back in the day

there were different camps.

Think MIHOP vs LIHOP. There was a time on DU when these subjects were not "forbidden" or regulated to conspiracy theory status.

We are just to look "Forward" now.

We can not win this thing by glossing over recent past happenings and letting the history get written by those we oppose.

[ProfessorGAC]

13. Here's What I Never Understood

Why was it so hard to believe that self-serving narcissists like Bush and Cheney who dramatically failed upward their whole lives had sufficient hubris and were incompetent enough to simply have missed the signals to avoid 9/11?

No LIHOP or MIHOP or inside job necessary. Just gross incompetence exacerbated by the hubris of believing one can do no wrong because they've gotten away with failure their whole lives.

Why the need to explore it more deeply and taking it to the point that those that dismiss the other theories are considered blind sheep?

[PowerToThePeople]

14. I can not answer that

Gross incompetence is a reasonable answer to me as well (at least as far as Bush goes.) I think Cheney is pretty damn smart though, not too much would get past him. He is definitely very evil, but very smart.

[ProfessorGAC]

15. Then We Disagree

IMO, he is at best average. He has a gift for grifting and a gift for making contacts with like minded people who are simply not as smart as he.

[PowerToThePeople]

17. could be

I honestly have no real way to measure. I may just have towed the CEO="smart person" line undeservedly.

[Bandit]

16. While I agree with you completely the Bush*/Cheney Cabal had so many different stories

It makes one wonder if anything they said had any truth to it. They fabricated almost everything at every opportunity. Because of that factor alone many if not most Americans were left with much doubt.

[GeorgeGist]

19. Throw in Condaleeza and you have a trifecta ...

of incompetence.

[JHB]

21. Plus being world-class opportunists to seize it as a pretext...

...to push an entire raft of "neocon wish list" items.

[nyquil_man]

18. I don't see how any but the most rank partisans

could avoid the conclusion that the Bush Administration, for whatever reason, failed to prevent 9-11. The August PDB, the Phoenix memo, the recollections of Richard Clarke and Coleen Rowley, et cetera, all point to that conclusion. All are part of the "official story."

The question, for me, is why they failed. Was it incompetence or malevolence? The "official story" tends to point toward the former. I assume you're inclined toward the latter.

But, again, none of this has anything to do with the OP, which deals only with those who regard 9-11 as an inside job.

[louis-t]

2. Actually, there are 2 birth announcements from

two different Hawaii newspapers.

[sufrommich]

9. k&r. nt

[1awake]

12. LOL...

[Rex]

20. IKR!?