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THREAD: QAnon was enabled in part by former military and intelligence professionals "gone wild." They lent credibility to the myth and laundered QAnon messaging to the public, sometimes via E-list "influencers." Here are some of the key personnel.
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THREAD: QAnon was enabled in part by former military and intelligence professionals "gone wild." They lent credibility to the myth and laundered QAnon messaging to the public, sometimes via E-list "influencers." Here are some of the key personnel.
2/MICHAEL T. FLYNN is at the very center of the Q operation. As a US Army Lt. General and as former head of the Defense Intelligence Agency, he has extensive knowledge of military/intel ops and the mechanics of insurgency. He also deeply resents his treatment by USG a theme.
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3/BILL BINNEY retired in protest from NSA in 2001 after spat with @GenMhayden. He collaborated with Putinphile Oliver Stone (A Good American; Snowden), and has appeared on many Q content channels re: child sex abuse, directed energy weapons; he is part of intj.org
4/ROBERT DAVID STEELE, retired CIA, has appeared on countless Q-influencer channels. He drove the Pizzagate story in 2016. Has ties to Iran-connected ops, and also Russia info channels. Part of intj.org. Reform party pres. candidate, 2012.
Web Sites
https://robertdavidsteele.com/web-sites/
5/KIRK WIEBE, former NSA, is a colleague of Binney's. He was part of a pro-Russia group with Binney called VIPS. Has endorsed ITNJ activities. Appeared in a video with Binney and Oliver Stone's son Sean Stone, Sep 2020, on channel "Triangle of Paganism." facebook.com/triangleofpaga
6/ED LOOMIS, another NSA colleague of Binney and Wiebe; also part of VIPS. He appeared in the Oliver Stone-produced film "A Good American" with Binney.
The Protagonists | A Good American
A brilliant code breaker. A perfect surveillance tool. A flagrant betrayal.
https://agoodamerican.org/protagonists
7/LARRY C. JOHNSON is a former CIA + State Dept official, turned conspiracist; also part of VIPS. Signed Dec 2016 VIPS memo saying Russia was not behind the DNC hack; foundational to the Seth Rich lie. Believes Russia did not interfere in 2016.
CIA 'source' says Dont take my word for it that UK wiretapped Donald Trump
The memo comes too late for Donald Trump
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/cia-source-wiretapping-larry-johnson-donald-trump-fox-news-russia-today-barack-obama-gchq-a7638206.html
8/RAY MCGOVERN is a retired CIA official who has been a longtime guest of Alex Jones on InfoWars; also on left channels like Democracy Now. In Jan 2017, he wrote an op-ed with Binney saying DNC emails werent hacked, but leaked. Vehemently pro-Assange.
Emails were leaked, not hacked
It has been several weeks since the New York Times reported that "overwhelming circumstantial evidence" led the CIA to believe that Russian President Vladimir Putin "deployed computer h
https://www.baltimoresun.com/opinion/op-ed/bs-ed-hacking-intelligence-20170105-story.html
9/MICHAEL SCHEUER founded and led the CIA's station responsible for tracking Osama Bin Laden from 1996-2004. He left after being outed for anonymously publishing "Imperial Hubris." Has called for assassination of Obama and other officials; promotes Q.
Those who do not believe QANON will be mighty surprised
This morning news is replete with condemnations of QANON, his team, and their followers. Much is made of the accused murderer of a gang boss whose lawyers claim that his support for QANON shows his
https://www.non-intervention2.com/2019/12/07/those-who-do-not-believe-qanon-will-be-mighty-surprised/
10/RUSSELL BRUEMMER, former top lawyer at CIA + congressional affairs lead at FBI, formed cryptocurrency company Indeco with alleged QAnon/Shadowbox collaborator Trevor Fitzgibbon. May have used alias Hiro Tokumei. medium.com/indeco/indeco-
Indeco Launches First Token Pre-sale under SECs Regulation Crowdfunding Rules
Campaign Expands Access to Crypto Assets, Promotes Development of Smart, Green Communities
https://medium.com/indeco/indeco-launches-first-token-pre-sale-under-secs-regulation-crowdfunding-rules-e82dad79345
These Gaming Studios Are Bringing Bitcoin to Esports - CoinDesk
These developers are using Bitcoins Lightning Network to make esports and gaming a hobby anyone can monetize.
https://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-lightning-network-esports-gaming
11/KEVIN SHIPP, former CIA, appears in the fabulist documentary Out of Shadows and in other Q media. Had initial doubts about QAnon, but then became more supportive. Long history of conflict with CIA.
Former CIA Agent Kevin Shipp Reveals Shocking Details in New Book, From the Company of Shadows
/PRNewswire/ -- While working as a senior officer on a secret government base, Shipp and his family were subjected to severe toxic exposure. They were bleeding...
https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/former-cia-agent-kevin-shipp-reveals-shocking-details-in-new-book-from-the-company-of-shadows-221304401.html
12/STEVE PIECZENIK, former State Department official, was partners with Tom Clancy. He became a critic of US policy and has appeared many times on InfoWars. He says Bin Laden died in 2001; Steele cites him. Themes from Clancy pervade QAnon + predecessors.
How a conspiracy theory closed part of a major US seaport
The story of how a trio of conspiracy theorists with a modest following inadvertently shut down part of one of the United States' largest ports.
https://money.cnn.com/2017/06/16/media/port-of-charleston-dirty-bomb-conspiracy-theory-shutdown/index.html
13/JACK POSOBIEC former US Navy intel, connected to Russia-linked actors such as Cassandra Fairbanks, Roger Stone, Jim Hoft, Flynn, and others. Became deeply interested in QAnon in Sep 2018 when he made a long video about it for OAN.
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14/MICHAEL AQUINO, former US Army PSYOPs; founder, Temple of Set; founder, Church of Satan; author, "MindWar." Associate of Jim Watkins (8kun); associate of Sean Stone. Long-time critic of CIA. First officially recognized Satanic Chaplain of the US Army.
15/PAUL VALLELY, former US Army PSYOPs, claims QAnon is run by "The Army of Northern Virginia" (i.e. ex-intel people) who work with "white hats" to deliver intel through Q channels. Listen to him say this.
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https://www.spreaker.com/user/icrn/americanuck-radio-20191014?fbclid=IwAR3Ikh2f0Ni7r8UJn_lE0u48ERBiBnNYGJe16evmJLQiQRMEyeIA4WN_8gk#
16/PFC PATRICK BERGY, US Army, appears in the documentary Shadowgate, by Millie Weaver. Bergy claims he worked at CENTCOM on a program called iPsy. His claims seem suspect, but nevertheless he uses his military status to burnish QAnon talking points.
PolitiFact - Viral ShadowGate video makes sweeping, unfounded claims
Millie Weaver, a correspondent for Infowars, posted on her website on Aug. 3 that "ShadowGate" was coming soon. Billed a/>
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/aug/17/facebook-posts/viral-shadowgate-video-makes-sweeping-unfounded-cl/
17/JOSHUA MACIAS, founder, Vets for Trump; founder, JTF MAGA. Macias visited Trump Tower in late 2016 to advocate for vets. He was arrested in Philadelphia disrupting the 2020 vote count. Released, he was jailed again after participating in Jan 6 events. washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/01
18/TOM MCINERNEY former USAF Lt. Gen., has appeared on multiple Q-promoting content channels including Ann Vandersteel and Michael Scheuer's podcast. He claims Democrats coordinated with the Chinese government to create COVID-19.
PolitiFact - Debunking false claims from former Lt. Gen. McInerney on the Capitol riot, COVID-19, election fraud
In a video viewed tens of thousands of times on Facebook, a retired Air Force officer makes a slew of inaccurate and bas/>
https://www.politifact.com/article/2021/jan/12/debunking-false-claims-former-lt-gen-mcinerney-cap/
19/And there are various collaborators within government. MTG, Boebert, Biggs, Gosar, Jordan, Gohmert, Nunes in Congress, at a minimum. Patel, Tata and possibly others who were at Pentagon and NSA. This BS film offers an overview of part of that network.
amazon.com/Plot-Against-P
20/Expect to hear more about these characters. If you know of others who should be included in this list, please send details. If you're a reporter and wish to dig into this network, please reach out; I have more info. DM's are open. This is a major counterintelligence failure.
21/Some may wonder why these folks went down this path. From research, the common theme we have found is that they are disaffected from the mainstream of their professional community. Alienation is often a cause of radicalization.
22/PRISCILLA ADAMS DUMONT is an employee at the US Army's Redstone Arsenal in Huntsville, AL. She was the #1 correspondent with 8kun's Jim Watkins, according to server logs examined by myself, @emmibevensee @maxzzze + others. More in this Bellingcat story.
Exposed Email Logs Show 8kun Owner in Contact With QAnon Influencers and Enthusiasts - bellingcat
The owner of 8kun appears to have been in regular email contact with QAnon conspiracy enthusiasts and influencers, a recently discovered vulnerability in mail servers used by Watkins and a number of t
https://www.bellingcat.com/news/2021/01/07/exposed-email-logs-show-8kun-owner-in-contact-with-qanon-influencers-and-enthusiasts/
23/DAVID E. MARTIN appears in the Mikki Willis quack documentary film Plandemic II: INDOCTORNATION; Willis was at the Capitol on Jan 6th. Martin is not a former USG employee. But he is interest as part of this network; he is also part of ITNJ.
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https://www.davidmartin.world
24/And about ITNJ... The International Tribunal of Natural Justice is a bizarre organization led by Rhodesian "rock star" Sacha Stone and pushed Q themes of child trafficking, pandemic disinfo, 5G disinfo very early. Many in this network are affiliated. itnj.org
Irish_Dem
(47,147 posts)Putin has not missed a trick.
Rick Rolle
(90 posts)Russia, China, and Iran come to mind. The US has been involved in disrupting, overthrowing, and otherwise screwing around in, the internal affairs of many countries, especially since the end of WWII. I'm convinced our adversaries do the same. This might just be a manifestation of the Russians playing the long game.
Irish_Dem
(47,147 posts)So your theory is probably correct.
I also agree, Russia, China, and Iran are most likely all players in this game.
The seeds of America's second civil war have been decades in the making.
America has done it to other countries, why did we think we would be immune?
Biophilic
(3,667 posts)Until I saw this list the idea that "a few" military people were involved just didn't actually sink in as to what that meant. Do we really have that many crazy people in our country/military? I'm honestly just shaking my head. Obviously, wasn't something I really wanted to know. But now I do. What a weekend. Thank heavens for President Biden and VP Harris. I trust them and their people, but I also, obviously, need to know more than I have in the past. Damn, I though retirement was about putting my feet up and watching the daisies grow. Guess not.
Turin_C3PO
(14,010 posts)reflects the crazy in society. Some nutcases but the majority not.
Biophilic
(3,667 posts)didn't breed or support crazy people. Seemed like the discipline etc would weed that out, but maybe it is the other way around, that it supports the crazy. Still, a disappointment. Yes, I can be a bit unrealistic I'm afraid. Just thankful that majority of us aren't nut cases.
Tommymac
(7,263 posts)Dominionist christian nutcases took it over long ago.
Kinda scary since the AF is in charge of the strategic nuclear bombers and land based missiles.
Biophilic
(3,667 posts)It's amazing how we can 'ignore' things we don't really want to know.
Puppyjive
(503 posts)I am a veteran and served in 1988 for nine years. I can honestly say that about 80% of my military friends are full on conspiracy theorists. I don't know what happened to them. One of our basic survival skills was to differentiate between fact and propaganda. I know people serving now and they scare me with their way of thinking. They are angry. There needs to be a major shakeup in the ranks. This is a direct threat to our democracy. I blame it on Faux News and conservative talk radio. This issue needs to be front and center. If you are a new person joining the military and your superiors are so entwined in the conspiracy, it will never change. A lot of my friends now work for government contractors. The sickness goes beyond the military.
Biophilic
(3,667 posts)Puppyjive
(503 posts)I am a veteran and served in 1988 for nine years. I can honestly say that about 80% of my military friends are full on conspiracy theorists. I don't know what happened to them. One of our basic survival skills was to differentiate between fact and propaganda. I know people serving now and they scare me with their way of thinking. They are angry. There needs to be a major shakeup in the ranks. This is a direct threat to our democracy. I blame it on Faux News and conservative talk radio. This issue needs to be front and center. If you are a new person joining the military and your superiors are so entwined in the conspiracy, it will never change. A lot of my friends now work for government contractors. The sickness goes beyond the military.
mopinko
(70,140 posts)cheato isnt smart enough to pull off any of this. his brain is fried.
UpInArms
(51,284 posts)Updated 2:17 PM EST, Fri November 18, 2016
Retired Army Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn, who has been asked to serve as Donald Trumps National Security Adviser, has, on his verified Twitter account, interacted with far right and anti-Semitic figures, maligned the Muslim faith, and shared unfounded news stories.
A CNN KFile review of Flynns Twitter account finds that the retired lieutenant general, who once served as head of the Defense Intelligence Agency, tweeted routinely with members of the so-called alt-right movement, going so far as to endorse a book by one controversial figure who regularly makes offensive comments.
Flynn faced criticism in July when he retweeted an anti-Semitic message. Flynn said the retweet was an accident and deleted the message.
Emails to a spokesperson for President-elect Trump and Flynn seeking comment were not returned. A follow up question to Flynn asking who managed his Twitter account also went unreturned.
Tweeting with the fringe:
Flynn regularly interacted on Twitter with members of the alt-right movement a far right ideological group whose members primarily use social media as platform to spread their message.
On 15 different occasions, Flynn tagged in his tweets alt-right figure Mike Cernovich, who regularly tweets inflammatory and unfounded conspiracy theories.
Cernovich runs a website called Danger and Play, which has pushed conspiracy theories that the Orlando Pulse shooter did not act alone and that Hillary Clintons campaign chairman was part of a sex cult.
Lieutenant General Michael T. Flynn
67,454 viewsNov 14, 2016
How Michael Flynn morphed from storied officer to purveyor of conspiracy theories
For years, Flynn was a social media skeptic, writing that Facebook and Twitter must become more socially responsible, adding positive messaging campaigns about the betterment of humankind.
Then, after the 2016 election, Flynn insisted that social media were the key to building a pro-Trump, conservative army of digital soldiers .?.?. irregular warfare at its finest. He said hed seen proof on social media that Trump had actually won the popular vote in addition to the electoral college, which is false.
Initech
(100,084 posts)Like if you were to look up the word "tool" in the dictionary you'd see his picture. Maybe Jack Posobiec too.
NoRoadUntravelled
(2,626 posts)People thought it was reaching but, now it doesn't look far fetched.
colorado_ufo
(5,737 posts)nor his son.
llashram
(6,265 posts)this is insane. I wonder how deep their tentacles go outside the Qpublikkkan RW social media, MSM?
Baked Potato
(7,733 posts)Dabbling in cloak and dagger fakery.
Craving attention for the Oohs and Aahs.
All enabled by social media platforms.
bottomofthehill
(8,335 posts)For years the country club republicans have funded this insanity because they have gotten deregulation and tax cuts, but now, even they are thinking that Frankenstein has escaped the castle and is heading towards the village.
Klaralven
(7,510 posts)msfiddlestix
(7,282 posts)How is Biden to know who to trust? omg.
bamagal62
(3,264 posts)peggysue2
(10,836 posts)Larry Johnson? I always wondered where he went. Johnson ran the site No Quarter for years. I was a member back in 2007-2008. At the time Johnson claimed to be a dedicated Hillary Clinton supporter. After Barack Obama won the election and Clinton accepted the SOS job, the site turned absolutely toxic with all sorts of ridiculous theories being tossed back and forth. Posters I had once been friendly with turned positively vicious. On a dime, it seemed.
Full disclosure, I was never Barack Obama's biggest fan. The man grew on me over time although I was not without my criticism of certain policies. That being said, the atmosphere on the site took a 180 degree turn to a very anti-Democratic tilt. That's when I left. At the time, Johnson claimed to be a Libertarian, a stance that's never washed with me. Think Steve Bannon.
Anyway, the site suddenly went down, vanished, all traces disappeared.
And so, Johnson pops up like a bad quarter in the middle of the QAnon phenom. Guess I shouldn't be surprised. And what good company he's keeping with the likes of Mike Flynn.
Are all these men disgruntled, former employees? Michael Scheuer? He was a frequent barker of nonsense and conspiracy on Fox News. Jack Posobiec? I'm pretty sure he's a dedicated Trump defender. And Binney? Didn't he question the integrity of our voting machines back in the day?
What a cast of characters!
Excellent find, Nevilledog. Thanks for the post.
Denzil_DC
(7,246 posts)He's probably most notorious for his infamous long-running hoax in 2008 about "the whitey tape", whose release he teased incessantly for ages, but which never appeared.
He cropped up again in 2013, spreading the allegation that John Kerry was guilty of war crimes in Vietnam. That claim proved as unfounded as "the whitey tape".
Then in 2017, he emerged from the undergrowth again with more unfounded conspiracy theories:
Last week, the Trump White House ignited a diplomatic row with Americas closest ally when Press Secretary Sean Spicer, looking to bolster President Trumps baseless wiretap allegations against President Obama, promoted Fox News commentator Andrew Napolitanos report that Obama used a British intelligence agency to spy on Trump during last years presidential campaign. The British Government Communications Headquarters (GCHQ), which is the agency responsible for the U.K.s intelligence gathering, then made a rare public statement in order to officially rebuke the claim, calling Napolitanos report nonsense and utterly ridiculous.
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But Napolitanos claim, which he repeatedly said came from Fox News sources, was then seemingly dismissed by Fox News itself. Anchor Shep Smith said on Friday that the network could not confirm Napolitanos commentary and that Fox News knows of no evidence of any kind that the now-President of the United States was surveilled at any time in any way. Full stop. The network also said that Napolitano still stands by his report, but anchor Bret Baier later reiterated that the Fox News division was never able to back up those claims.
So where did Fox News very talented legal mind come up with this White Houseboosted allegation? The New York Times and Politico report that one of the sources was former CIA analyst, blogger, and occasional Russia Today guest Larry C. Johnson, who infamously promoted the false rumor in 2008 that the GOP possessed a bombshell video in which former First Lady Michelle Obama had been recorded making disparaging remarks about white people also known as the infamous Whitey tape hoax. Napolitano apparently asked Johnson to speak with the Times on Friday, and Johnson explained to them that Napolitano had heard about the U.K. wiretap claim through an intermediary who had learned of it through sources in the U.S. intelligence community. Johnson, who maintains that the Whitey tape fiasco was the result of him getting played by Clinton operatives during the contentious 2008 primaries, has since denied some of the Times report, but admits that he was one of Napolitanos sources. Appearing on CNNs Reliable Sources on Sunday, Johnson further elaborated that he had posted the theory on an online discussion board and someone passed that post along to Napolitano.
Speaking with Politico, Johnson explained that his own initial source for the U.K. wiretap theory was a Democrat who is not actually in the U.S. intelligence community but has ties there, and was someone with a history of having access to national security information. That source, according to Johnson, was alarmed at what he saw as this meddling in the election. He says he confirmed the tip with two people in the intelligence community and were not talking janitors or cleaning ladies.
Johnson also appeared on the state-controlled Russia Today (RT) television network earlier this year to contest the U.S. intelligence communitys conclusion that Russia interfered in last years election. He then repeated that opinion earlier this month when he reappeared on the network one day after Trump tweeted his now notorious allegation that President Obama had illegally ordered a wiretap on him and Trump Tower. In that interview, Johnson who says he was not paid by RT for his appearances seems to have made the first-ever public mention of the U.K. wiretap theory, alleging that senior members of the Obama administration had colluded with the U.K. to spy on Trump and then illegally disseminated that information throughout the U.S. government. He has also passed along the theory that U.S. government insiders like the CIA may have hacked the Democratic National Committee during the campaign instead of Russia.
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2017/03/whitey-tape-blogger-was-one-source-of-uk-wiretap-claim.html
So it's not a surprise to see him linked to Q. The surprise would be if anyone ever took anything he claimed seriously again.
peggysue2
(10,836 posts)I had no idea about the ties to the disgraceful Kerry allegations. I voted for Kerry and that whole smear campaign was ugly propaganda. That would have turned me off instantly to anything Johnson had to say. In retrospect, I can now see how the man's Hillary support was simply a clever cover to disrupt and sow mistrust about Democrats in general, a variation on Limbaugh's Operation Chaos.
Birds of a feather. Ugh.
niyad
(113,434 posts)Cozmo
(1,402 posts)dhill926
(16,349 posts)sarchasm
(1,012 posts)just googled ITNJ ... seems Plato's Cave got some new upholstery. I can't tell if this is a solution in search of a problem, or some certifiable crazy rabbit hole bullshit.
catchnrelease
(1,945 posts)I remember him being on Democracy Now and other left leaning sites back during Bush the Pretender's time. I thought he was a good guy and could be relied on for the truth. So weird how people go off the deep end sometimes!
NoRoadUntravelled
(2,626 posts)crickets
(25,981 posts)Boomerproud
(7,958 posts)Trust no one.
FakeNoose
(32,658 posts)OK maybe he's using an alias now. Wouldn't be too difficult.