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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWTF with these (8) Senate dems voting against DOJ Nominee Debo Adegbile???
eight Democrats joined with Republicans to oppose Adegbile,
Initially, seven Democrats voted against confirmation and Majority Leader Harry M. Reid (D-Nev.) -- who initially voted in favor of confirmation -- later switched his vote to no, giving him the right as Senate leader to bring up the nomination again at a later date.
Chris Coons (Del.),Bob Casey (Pa.), Mark Pryor (Ark.), Heidi Heitkamp (N.D.), Joe Manchin (W.V.), Joe Donnolly (Ind.) and John Walsh (Mont.).
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2014/03/05/senate-rejects-obama-appointment-of-debo-adegbile-to-top-civil-rights-post/
Are these fools unable to understand, and to convey to their constituents, how attorneys and the firms for which they work DO their/our work???
Tx4obama
(36,974 posts)... in the future - it's a procedural thing.
Reid always has to switch his vote to no if a vote is not going to pass otherwise the nomination or bill would be dead.
elleng
(130,895 posts)he did his job, as usual, but the OTHERS???
Cha
(297,196 posts)must have bought the propaganda.
"Obama blamed wildly unfair character attacks on Adegbiles failure to win nomination. As a lawyer, Mr. Adegbile has played by the rules. And now, Washington politics have used the rules against him. The fact that his nomination was defeated solely based on his legal representation of a defendant runs contrary to a fundamental principle of our system of justice and those who voted against his nomination denied the American people an outstanding public servant.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=4612143
villager
(26,001 posts)Ergo, in close red state elections for Blue Dog Dem Senators, faced with -- let's be honest -- stupid voters, then a Dem vote for the nominee becomes an automatic Wille Horton ad campaign in that particular race...
warrant46
(2,205 posts)msanthrope
(37,549 posts)msanthrope
(37,549 posts)Gidney N Cloyd
(19,834 posts)These 7 in this case have some local pressure (in the sense of anticipating a flurry of 30 second attack ads) to vote against Adegbile but in the past they could have counted on a rethug to put a hold on it and give them cover.
elleng
(130,895 posts)'Much better.'
Gidney N Cloyd
(19,834 posts)Lost_Count
(555 posts)WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)"Mumia Abu-Jamal, who was convicted of killing Philadelphia police officer Daniel Faulkner in 1981"??
Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2014/03/senate-blocks-debo-adegbile-justice-department-104297.html#ixzz2v95rwTdW
elleng
(130,895 posts)about the 'association' with Mumia.
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)elleng
(130,895 posts)Hippo_Tron
(25,453 posts)Barring people from public service because they represented people that we personally find despicable sets a horrible precedent.
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)Hippo_Tron
(25,453 posts)This is precisely why we don't have direct democracy. Casey's constituents happen to be dead wrong about not wanting this man to be confirmed, as are the police unions, and he absolutely should vote against their will because it's the right thing to do. If senators just voted according to public opinion every time there'd be no point in having a senate.
Comrade Grumpy
(13,184 posts)They probably think it will help them get re-elected. That's too bad.
elleng
(130,895 posts)You're correct, Grumpy, but the political scene/underbelly/b.s. these days is getting me down. We won't get ANYWHERE unless/until we elect super majority dems in House, Senate, governorships and legislatures, and I don't see that happening.
Thanks.
Tx4obama
(36,974 posts)The Senate Decides Being A Lawyer Disqualifies You From Holding A Legal Post
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/03/05/obama-civil-rights-nominee_n_4907455.html
p.s Currently at the top of the front page of HuffPo in huge letters it says: THE SHAMEFUL 7
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/
and below that are photos of the 'seven democrats', and it links to the article up above.
p.s.s. I predict that he will be confirmed by the end of the year.
elleng
(130,895 posts)I haven't been able to open huffpo successfully for quite a while, but pleased to see this slant; its exactly correct, and a complaint I have about many people's reactions to attorneys named for various positions, including MANY complaints from DUers.
I certainly hope your prediction is correct. I feel so sorry for the crap appointees have to endure.
davidpdx
(22,000 posts)Sorry, I just had to say it. So many of the politicians are lawyers. I really have nothing against them, just the fact that so many of them are unreasonable makes me frustrated.
davidpdx
(22,000 posts)From a quick glance at the article Adegbile sounds like a good nominee. I honestly can see maybe one of the budging, but not two.
Le Taz Hot
(22,271 posts)so we must trust them -- 12-dimensional chess or something.
CreekDog
(46,192 posts)i must have missed it.
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)good news.
DesMoinesDem
(1,569 posts)elleng
(130,895 posts)Firm he worked for represented someone people didn't like, and he took a marginal role in that representation?
DesMoinesDem
(1,569 posts)He represented someone people don't like.
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)it's a shame some smeared him for that, since there's so much better, stronger stuff out there to nail him with
elleng
(130,895 posts)Friend of mine, many years ago, represented, via ACLU, nazi parade through chicago suburb, prevailed in court, parade went on, and suburb + Chicago survived. (So did my friend survive.)
Its our JOB, as attorneys, and people really should know this, and the demagogues should stfu. (Heard twomey demagoging earlier today.) Again:
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)msanthrope
(37,549 posts)Now, as a criminal defense attorney, I will defend anyone who decides to take up the criminal defense of the unsavory....but for Greenwald to pretend that a patent case between neo-Nazi factions is somehow a civil rights matter is just silly.
His next case for the neo-Nazi was defending against the Center for Constitutional Rights, who were suing under anti-Klan statutes. In that case, he violated his client's privilege, forcing a settlement. So, through his own incompetence, he screwed the neo-Nazi. Again....I fail to see what this has to do with civil rights.